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EA Sports PGA Tour Releases in Spring 2023

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EA Sports PGA TOUR

EA Sports PGA Tour Releases in Spring 2023

EA has announced EA Sports PGA Tour has basically been delayed by a year and will now release in spring 2023. No specific reason was given for the delay, but they are inevitable in the world we live in nowadays.

Odds are we’ll see EA Sports PGA Tour tee off around the 2023 Masters. For those of you that have missed out on our EA Sports PGA Tour news coverage:

  • THE PLAYERS Championship and FedExCup Playoffs – Players will also be able to compete in the PGA TOUR’s most thrilling events during the golf season including THE PLAYERS Championship and FedExCup Playoffs. True to the real-life PGA TOUR season, players earn FedExCup points throughout the in-game Career Mode for a chance to make the FedExCup Playoffs, with the top golfers at the end of the year given the opportunity to win the FedExCup. Career mode will also see the return of the Korn Ferry Tour, adding another layer of depth to the game that will allow players to hone their skills before joining the PGA TOUR.
  • The exclusive home of all four of golf’s major championships – Golf enthusiasts can build a legendary career as they authentically compete at golf’s most prestigious annual events, while experiencing the unique atmosphere and venues of each tournament.
  • LPGA and The Amundi Evian Championship – Golf fans can also compete at The Amundi Evian Championship, one of the Ladies Professional Golf Association (LPGA) Tour’s five major championships and will have the opportunity to play as several female athletes as well as create a female golfer of their own in the newly overhauled Create-A-Player feature. Players will be able to participate in a series of LPGA-themed challenges and other events. Iona Stephen will also be joining the EA commentary team as the first female on-course commentator in game, bringing her experienced insights from both playing professionally and working in golf broadcasting.
  • ShotLink and TrackMan Data – PGA TOUR golfers will be authentically replicated in EA SPORTS PGA TOUR like never before with ShotLink powered by CDW, the PGA TOUR’s proprietary real-time scoring system. EA SPORTS PGA TOUR uniquely incorporates ShotLink data, which will provide extensive amounts of data that will be integrated into the game’s development, resulting in accurate player ratings and skills and magnified true-to-life in-game events. Data from TrackMan, a world leader in 3D ball flight measurement and swing analysis, is also being incorporated into the game to add an additional layer of authenticity by allowing EA’s game designers to perfect gameplay and numerous stats such as club tuning.
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  1. Wonder if they will add in the 2023 Major rotation on top of the 2022 list? That would be amazing.
    Here’s to hoping PS5s will finally be available 1 year from now.
    It would be cool if they at least threw us a bone and gave us 2-3 early build screenshots of Augusta in a couple weeks.
    Bummer. Oh well. Finally have some news. A little concerned no mention of the masters at…all? Just championship golf. Kind of wondering if there was some sort of falling out with Augusta and they pulled out, and they had to start from scratch?
    jbd345
    Good deal. All I saw was the initial tweet.

    I can understand that, shoot we should all be happy Augusta is still in
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    What a drag...
    Good to at least "know" I guess
    Hey, maybe by the time this releases we can be trying to already buy a PS5 "Slim" - lol!
    Saw that fat boy at Best Buy the other day.
    Damn -- PS5's are huuuge
    Glad it's still next generation consoles only.
    Was afraid, with the delay, that they might've been spending time working toward backing it compatible with current gen systems - therefore handicapping what it could be as a next-gen only game.
    scagwi
    What a drag...
    Good to at least "know" I guess
    Hey, maybe by the time this releases we can be trying to already buy a PS5 "Slim" - lol!
    Saw that fat boy at Best Buy the other day.
    Damn -- PS5's are huuuge

    Yeah, I had the same thought, Be hilarious if it came true. Man my PS3 super slim is so small, I wish they could get them down to that size again.
    But yeah, at least we know. I would be happy if they dropped stuff through the year to keep us in the loop until launch.
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    beau21
    Glad it's still next generation consoles only.
    Was afraid, with the delay, that they might've been spending time working toward backing it compatible with current gen systems - therefore handicapping what it could be as a next-gen only game.

    Same here. NASCAR 21 went that route and it ended in absolute disaster.
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    beau21
    Glad it's still next generation consoles only.
    Was afraid, with the delay, that they might've been spending time working toward backing it compatible with current gen systems - therefore handicapping what it could be as a next-gen only game.

    Very much agree with you here.
    We saw how Rory needed a bit of a hardware "boost" on last gen. There was no need to do that again in 2022.
    scagwi
    Very much agree with you here.
    We saw how Rory needed a bit of a hardware "boost" on last gen. There was no need to do that again in 2022.

    Yes , Pop ins and such plagued what otherwise was a beautiful game for its time and even into 2022. It was ambitious graphics wise, just missed the mark in swing mechanics and obviously missing so many courses.
    I believe with TW14 with all DLC I have roughly 40 courses, then Rory launched with only like 8 real courses. Talk about a drop off. Take Tiger out too and it was done for before it launched.
    I will say, after the patches and new courses, it was a lot better but it was too late. I honestly never thought EA would do golf again after 2K got the rights into TGC 2019.
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    Makes sense, since the new-gen consoles are still scarce... and the game has legit competition now with PGA 2k.
    Interested to see if PGA 2K can hit a release this year.
    I believe the mixture of the virus(Work from home) and lack of next gen consoles being available is what led to this delay,
    Just last August an EA rep said this … Martin said. “We’re on a fast track to get the game done by the spring .’
    Here’s a link to that article if anyone is interested, it’s mainly speaking on LPGA involvement….. https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22586620/ea-sports-pga-tour-womens-golf-lpga-modes-avatars-career
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    I'm guessing the dev team for this game isn't huge, and there were recent EA classifieds for jobs tied to the game, so it makes sense being delayed. No way it was getting released this spring when there's zero marketing right now. Probably would help them to have a bigger install base of next-gen consoles by 2023, as well.
    Let's hope the delay fleshes out this game that much more.
    This news confirmed my growing suspicion that it was going to roll out this way. I guess I'll have to live it with. I really wouldn't mine now if EA and 2K got into a pattern where each releases a new golf gamer every two years, with 2K doing it in even years and EA in odd years. That way we'd have a new golf game every year to assess, pick apart, and hopefully play. ;)
    OnlookerDelay
    This news confirmed my growing suspicion that it was going to roll out this way. I guess I'll have to live it with. I really wouldn't mine now if EA and 2K got into a pattern where each releases a new golf gamer every two years, with 2K doing it in even years and EA in odd years. That way we'd have a new golf game every year to assess, pick apart, and hopefully play. ;)

    And better yet they could steal from each other , but the thing is, back in 2003-4 they were having this conversation about Madden vs nfl 2K and we all know what happened.
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    I'm thinking also the redesign to the 3 holes at Augusta might also have something to do with a pushback. I would think they would need to go back and re measure the fairways, tees and greens as Augusta saiat they lengthened holes and recontoured fairways (and I think greens too) and removed a bunch of trees. So maybe they want to have the most up to date course. 
    Hilldog39
    I'm thinking also the redesign to the 3 holes at Augusta might also have something to do with a pushback. I would think they would need to go back and re measure the fairways, tees and greens as Augusta saiat they lengthened holes and recontoured fairways (and I think greens too) and removed a bunch of trees. So maybe they want to have the most up to date course.*

    Ehh, They could of still released it and updated the course afterwards. I doubt it was a factor but who knows.
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    Sometime last fall, I think EA realized next-gen consoles would still be constrained for a while and they decided to pivot dev resources to other projects for this yearly cycle and revisit it in 2022.
    Honestly, they were right. I've been trying to get a PS5 at MSRP when retailers have drops and I still can't get one. If the game were releasing in a few weeks as originally planned, sales would be a disaster.
    scagwi
    What a drag...
    Good to at least "know" I guess
    Hey, maybe by the time this releases we can be trying to already buy a PS5 "Slim" - lol!
    Saw that fat boy at Best Buy the other day.
    Damn -- PS5's are huuuge

    Way too big.
    steviegolfballs
    How will this affect the major courses that they had advertised in the game?* Southern Hills and St. Andrews won't be the courses for the Opens in 2023.

    Won’t matter outside of not lining up… 2 years into career mode it won’t even matter. The important thing is having a lot of courses in the major rotation.
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    scagwi
    Sometime last fall, I think EA realized next-gen consoles would still be constrained for a while and they decided to pivot dev resources to other projects for this yearly cycle and revisit it in 2022.
    Honestly, they were right. I've been trying to get a PS5 at MSRP when retailers have drops and I still can't get one. If the game were releasing in a few weeks as originally planned, sales would be a disaster.

    This is off-topic, but I really started trying to get a PS5 back in the fall. It took me about three months of committed searching and keying on drops to get one, but that's basically what it takes if scalping hasn't diminished.
    However, I should also mention I had missed an invite from Sony last summer to buy one (it went into my spam folder and I wasn't paying close attention, forgetting about the lottery entirely). Register for the Sony direct emails once a week until you get one. I got a second one, as well, but by that point I had my console from elsewhere.
    There are other resources you can use from Twitter and Reddit, Nowinstock, even Discord channels, but if you don't want to pay over retail, you really do have to commit to the hunt like it's a part-time job.
    jwilphl
    This is off-topic, but I really started trying to get a PS5 back in the fall. It took me about three months of committed searching and keying on drops to get one, but that's basically what it takes if scalping hasn't diminished.
    However, I should also mention I had missed an invite from Sony last summer to buy one (it went into my spam folder and I wasn't paying close attention, forgetting about the lottery entirely). Register for the Sony direct emails once a week until you get one. I got a second one, as well, but by that point I had my console from elsewhere.
    There are other resources you can use from Twitter and Reddit, Nowinstock, even Discord channels, but if you don't want to pay over retail, you really do have to commit to the hunt like it's a part-time job.

    It’s all about the effort people are willing to put into finding one. I see a few accounts that post once a week saying target or Walmart has ‘em in stock. Their out there, it’s just how badly you want to search for it. I just happened to get lucky Christmas 2020 to get one.
    I’ve had two pretty good chances to get one this week and I have passed.
    With no new golf game and me not really being into the NHL series right now I would be getting it just for Gran Turismo and I’m just kind of not worried about it right now.
    One major positive for the 2K golf series is if they release a new version I’m assuming I can still just check that out on the computer instead
    scagwi
    I’ve had two pretty good chances to get one this week and I have passed.
    With no new golf game and me not really being into the NHL series right now I would be getting it just for Gran Turismo and I’m just kind of not worried about it right now.
    One major positive for the 2K golf series is if they release a new version I’m assuming I can still just check that out on the computer instead

    May I ask, where you had these opportunities? I was really wanting one for PGA and GT7, but am now thinking I’ll just hold out until next spring or summer in hopes that they are at Walmart and or a slim model is made.
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    VoltSwoosh
    May I ask, where you had these opportunities? I was really wanting one for PGA and GT7, but am now thinking I’ll just hold out until next spring or summer in hopes that they are at Walmart and or a slim model is made.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Local seller and also the Direct Sony drop on Thursday
    VoltSwoosh
    May I ask, where you had these opportunities? I was really wanting one for PGA and GT7, but am now thinking I’ll just hold out until next spring or summer in hopes that they are at Walmart and or a slim model is made.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    If you have a Twitter account, “ps5 in stock alerts” posts at least once or twice a week. Legit sellers, no scalpers.
    For me to come back to golf games and it has been a while I will need to know if this game allows you to edit the fake golfers to give them real names and such. I would want an entire roster of real golfers. Customization is everything.
    LegendKillerOne
    For me to come back to golf games and it has been a while I will need to know if this game allows you to edit the fake golfers to give them real names and such. I would want an entire roster of real golfers. Customization is everything.

    I would say the chances of that are close to zero.
    LegendKillerOne
    For me to come back to golf games and it has been a while I will need to know if this game allows you to edit the fake golfers to give them real names and such. I would want an entire roster of real golfers. Customization is everything.

    EA has real names, I think you are thinking of the early Golf Club games.
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    VoltSwoosh
    EA has real names, I think you are thinking of the early Golf Club games.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    but only a set amount of licensed guys right? Not the entire tour.
    Man it already stings that the game is still a year out, but it’s really going to be disappointing come Thursday’s morning next week. We should of had the game to go along with it, or at least the ability to watch others play it on YouTube
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    Good news as far as I'm concerned. The last thing I want is for them to abandon the game again because of lack of sales. Hopefully they will take this time to build other basic stuffs like: golfer customization, country clubs, dynamic weather and please fix the ball moving out freaky right from the putter blade on breaking putt. And trees moving like there's a earthquake when it's windy.
    bigkev
    Good news as far as I'm concerned. The last thing I want is for them to abandon the game again because of lack of sales. Hopefully they will take this time to build other basic stuffs like: golfer customization, country clubs, dynamic weather and please fix the ball moving out freaky right from the putter blade on breaking putt. And trees moving like there's a earthquake when it's windy.

    You may be setting yourself up for a let down. I’m expecting this to be just as bare bones as Rory was. Just with a little more fleshed out career mode and majors. I have zero expeditions as far how deep the content is. I don’t think will see that until after a few installments.
    jbd345
    You may be setting yourself up for a let down. I’m expecting this to be just as bare bones as Rory was. Just with a little more fleshed out career mode and majors. I have zero expeditions as far how deep the content is. I don’t think will see that until after a few installments.

    If it is as bare bones as Rory was with a couple more courses, you might see the next game by 2030.
    This is what they have said so far, starting with maybe the most important thing, a new swing method. Also, new create a player, at least 11 courses, hopefully on top of all of the Rory courses since both are on frostbite Engine, and lpga.
    I’m also very intrigued by ShotLink data being used, hopefully that is more than a marketing scheme.
    Sent from my iPad Pro
    If any USA folks are looking for a PS5, Amazon is pumping this pretty good, which might indicate a fair amount of stock they've built up to release at once.
    Tomorrow at 11am EST -- I think being Amazon Prime is required
    It's also PS5 Digital only (personally the only one I'm interested in since it's $100 less and the only difference is disk drive or not -- and I'm all digital for anything console anymore)
    https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001255/sony-playstation-5-ps5-digital-edition-amazon-prime-console-restock-availability-price-check
    Anyone get one?
    Anecdotally, it looks like it was hyped up and there wasn't in fact much supply.
    More of the usual.
    Probably a smart move for all the "next-gen only" games (as we think PGA23 is) to stay on the sidelines still
    The "big" Amazon drop was indeed over very quickly. I have one from a Sony Direct invite a few months back, but I was trying to get one for an older friend that I play online with. My wife and I are Prime members, had 2 computers going minutes before 11am...we refreshed the page at least 200 times each until about 11:15, and then they started to appear. We had one in our cart 4 different times within 10 minutes of when they started to show up, but one click later to actually buy it, they would be gone. You can't compete with bots.
    It's just not worth it. If you're a Sony Plus member, sign up for an invite, that's how I lucked into mine. But trying to jump on these "drops" as a regular consumer, even with whatever membership is required, is a waste of time.
    We just have to assume that by next Spring when people really need one to play the EA game, they will be widely available. Until then, it's just not worth the effort.
    golfnut67
    The "big" Amazon drop was indeed over very quickly. I have one from a Sony Direct invite a few months back, but I was trying to get one for an older friend that I play online with. My wife and I are Prime members, had 2 computers going minutes before 11am...we refreshed the page at least 200 times each until about 11:15, and then they started to appear. We had one in our cart 4 different times within 10 minutes of when they started to show up, but one click later to actually buy it, they would be gone. You can't compete with bots.
    It's just not worth it. If you're a Sony Plus member, sign up for an invite, that's how I lucked into mine. But trying to jump on these "drops" as a regular consumer, even with whatever membership is required, is a waste of time.
    We just have to assume that by next Spring when people really need one to play the EA game, they will be widely available. Until then, it's just not worth the effort.

    I remember last spring, believing by this spring they would be in Walmart
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    I'm glad I don't really care about a PS5 right now..
    It would be totally different if a new EA golf game were about to drop
    (not an Xbox guy - have tried it - just really prefer PS side)
    scagwi
    I'm glad I don't really care about a PS5 right now..
    It would be totally different if a new EA golf game were about to drop
    (not an Xbox guy - have tried it - just really prefer PS side)

    Me too, I’ve kinda accepted I might just plan on getting it next spring or summer. When PGA 23 with MASTERS and CFB 23 release for the first time since 2013!
    Hope they aren’t let downs .
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    There should be a good chance at getting a next-gen system if you want one by the time this game is released. The chip shortage is getting better. Tariffs have been lifted on those chips and their components.
    Graphics card prices are way down and continue to plummet as well.
    I'm not big into golf, but I do enjoy golf games, so I will most likely get this.
    So remember last year at the wed masters press conference, when the chairmen revealed Augusta signed on to the game?
    How neat would it be if he revealed a teaser with early screens of Augusta in it this year!
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max.
    My guess is if anything, they put out a tweet with a picture of the real course like last years reveals and say something like this…
    “A tradition unlike any other.”
    ⛳️Coming 2023.
    JayhawkerStL
    I really hate the part where we beg EA to manipulate us with PR, and then get mad when they do exactly that.

    I just want to see a bloody screenshot :drink:
    JayhawkerStL
    I really hate the part where we beg EA to manipulate us with PR, and then get mad when they do exactly that.

    Who has been complaining? I haven’t seen any of that.
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    We aren’t to the complaining part. First we gotta get the screen shots and pick them apart. Then, if that actually goes well, we have to compare them to every new bit of info, and then try to detect if EA is going to screw us again.
    So, yes, we beg for PR and things like E3. We get angry AF if we aren’t given proper trailers and info. That is all PR meant to manipulate its customers. Not in a bad way, the way ALL marketing is designed.
    I mean, here we are, setting up a trap. Will EA fall into it? The Masters are coming, and if they don’t release something, then someone can talk about how disappointed they are. Then someone will say how ridiculous it all is.
    If they release a screenshot, gamers will be excited for 30 seconds, and then immediately go into, “is that all?” If it is a trailer, well is it really gameplay? Oh, we better hammer them on that.
    Wait, no release date? WTF?
    Yeah, it’s gonna be great.
    JayhawkerStL
    We aren’t to the complaining part. First we gotta get the screen shots and pick them apart. Then, if that actually goes well, we have to compare them to every new bit of info, and then try to detect if EA is going to screw us again.
    So, yes, we beg for PR and things like E3. We get angry AF if we aren’t given proper trailers and info. That is all PR meant to manipulate its comers. Not in a bad way, the way ALL marketing is designed.
    I mean, here we are, setting up a trap. Will EA fall into it? The Masters are coming, and if they don’t release something, then someone can talk about how disappointed they are. Then someone will say how ridiculous it all is.
    If they release a screenshot, gamers will be excited for 30 seconds, and then immediately go into, “is that all?” If it is a trailer, well is it really gameplay? Oh, we better hammer them on that.
    Wait, no release date? WTF?
    Yeah, it’s gonna be great.

    "Hurry up and give us something to **** on, please"
    JayhawkerStL
    We aren’t to the complaining part. First we gotta get the screen shots and pick them apart. Then, if that actually goes well, we have to compare them to every new bit of info, and then try to detect if EA is going to screw us again.
    So, yes, we beg for PR and things like E3. We get angry AF if we aren’t given proper trailers and info. That is all PR meant to manipulate its comers. Not in a bad way, the way ALL marketing is designed.
    I mean, here we are, setting up a trap. Will EA fall into it? The Masters are coming, and if they don’t release something, then someone can talk about how disappointed they are. Then someone will say how ridiculous it all is.
    If they release a screenshot, gamers will be excited for 30 seconds, and then immediately go into, “is that all?” If it is a trailer, well is it really gameplay? Oh, we better hammer them on that.
    Wait, no release date? WTF?
    Yeah, it’s gonna be great.

    Forever the optimist you are.
    kehlis
    Forever the optimist you are.

    If they don’t let me choose the champions dinner after I win the masters in career mode I’m going to riot and call them lazy!!!!
    Sarcasm *
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    scagwi
    What is everyone’s best guess?
    Do we get a single screenshot this week?
    A video?
    …or just nothing

    My gut feeling is nothing. A year out seems to be a bit too far to be promoting a golf game in advance. I'm curious to see what they come up with, but I'm a bit pacified that I'll have a new 2K golf game to tide me over until we start getting news of the next EA game, and later, its release.
    It'll be cool to have to rival, next-gen golf games going back and forth for the first time in 7 years. I'm counting RMPGAT in that statement, but honestly, I wrote it off in less than three months of play. It made for some great looking screen shots though!
    OnlookerDelay
    My gut feeling is nothing. A year out seems to be a bit too far to be promoting a golf game in advance. I'm curious to see what they come up with, but I'm a bit pacified that I'll have a new 2K golf game to tide me over until we start getting news of the next EA game, and later, its release.
    It'll be cool to have to rival, next-gen golf games going back and forth for the first time in 7 years. I'm counting RMPGAT in that statement, but honestly, I wrote it off in less than three months of play. It made for some great looking screen shots though!

    They were promoting it last year a year out.
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    VoltSwoosh
    They were promoting it last year a year out.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    True that... but did they really have anything to promote materially at that time? I'd say they got something in code right now, but it's probably nothing that's close enough to the final product that they'd want to float it at this time? This is another case where I hope to be proven wrong! :)
    OnlookerDelay
    ...but I'm a bit pacified that I'll have a new 2K golf game to tide me over until we start getting news of the next EA game, and later, its release.

    Was there a new 2k game announced?
    Do tell!
    scagwi
    Was there a new 2k game announced?
    Do tell!

    It hasn't been announced yet, but I'd be willing to bet that with Tiger Woods in partnership with them, and Tiger playing for the first time since his wreck, 2K will announce it this week during the Masters. They've got to start getting something out of the now over one year old contract they signed with him.
    OnlookerDelay
    It hasn't been announced yet, but I'd be willing to bet that with Tiger Woods in partnership with them, and Tiger playing for the first time since his wreck, 2K will announce it this week during the Masters. They've got to start getting something out of the now over one year old contract they signed with him.

    Whoa! JC is calling his shot!
    I love it!
    That's bold..
    Something this week from 2k -- I'll take it!
    Honestly, very excited to see what the future might hold on that side of things (the 2K + Tiger side)
    I just got an email from the 2k newsletter and it almost stopped my heart, until I re-read the subject. 2k21 is "on sale this week" lol. Not a good sign that they are just taking advantage of Tiger and the Masters to try to drain a last few sales. Unlikely we will see anything from them about 2k23 this week.
    Or...is it??
    Hmmm....
    golfnut67
    I just got an email from the 2k newsletter and it almost stopped my heart, until I re-read the subject. 2k21 is "on sale this week" lol. Not a good sign that they are just taking advantage of Tiger and the Masters to try to drain a last few sales. Unlikely we will see anything from them about 2k23 this week.
    Or...is it??
    Hmmm....

    Any sale on the hot dog putters or jumbo size caps though????
    No but seriously when I read that first line of yours I got a bit excited.
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    Lol I get ya. And yes, the "baller version" is 70% off. Who cares right?
    I guess I have some slight hope that this is just a crass commercialism attempt at selling a few more right before they give us some teasers for an August release.
    golfnut67
    Lol I get ya. And yes, the "baller version" is 70% off. Who cares right?
    I guess I have some slight hope that this is just a crass commercialism attempt at selling a few more right before they give us some teasers for an August release.

    agreed.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    scagwi
    Tiger has definitely been a “baller” over the years…
    At Golf too…

    Seriously though, I hope 2K takes advantage and really uses his likeness more than just on the cover and a playable character. Shoot let me play a career mode with him. TW13 had a pretty neat mode.
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    My guess is if anything, they put out a tweet with a picture of the real course like last years reveals and say something like this…
    “A tradition unlike any other.”
    ⛳️Coming 2023.
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    VoltSwoosh

    Seriously though, I hope 2K takes advantage and really uses his likeness more than just on the cover and a playable character. Shoot let me play a career mode with him. TW13 had a pretty neat mode.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Yeah, that’s another thing EA left out in Rory’s game. I liked playing through the Tiger moments and learning some about him.
    JayhawkerStL
    Yeah, that’s another thing EA left out in Rory’s game. I liked playing through the Tiger moments and learning some about him.

    It would have been hard to have a Tiger mode in Rory without Tigers licensing being included though
    Seriously though, Anything other than The Night Club Challenge would have been welcome though from me.
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    Watching Tiger this morning has me really hating that 2K got him exclusively. Imagine playing with him at Augusta on PS5.
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    VoltSwoosh
    Watching Tiger this morning has me really hating that 2K got him exclusively. Imagine playing with him at Augusta on PS5.

    I still think EA should add a golfer that looks "similar" to him and call him Lion Irons
    scagwi
    I still think EA should add a golfer that looks "similar" to him and call him Lion Irons

    . Red pants, Black shirt. Kitty cat driver headcover.
    Seriously though, really hope the player creator is Miles better than Rory PGA 15. All those faces but about 2 were the stuff of nightmares.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    Augusta looks amazing once again & has me hyped for this game. I don’t know the tournament broadcaster’s details but the camera work is phenomenal. That subtle depth of field on the crowd when the players are on the tee box is fantastic…..almost looks like a video game & I’ll be pleased if EA development team are able to implement this style of broadcast presentation into the game.
    RIFRIG
    Augusta looks amazing once again & has me hyped for this game. I don’t know the tournament broadcaster’s details but the camera work is phenomenal. That subtle depth of field on the crowd when the players are on the tee box is fantastic…..almost looks like a video game & I’ll be pleased if EA development team are able to implement this style of broadcast presentation into the game.

    I’m for it all except the depth of field in the game. I want it to be crystal clear as if I’m there.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    VoltSwoosh
    It would have been hard to have a Tiger mode in Rory without Tigers licensing being included though
    Seriously though, Anything other than The Night Club Challenge would have been welcome though from me.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Well, I did mean a Rory centric mode like that.
    The real feature I hope they bring back in the driving range.
    JayhawkerStL
    Well, I did mean a Rory centric mode like that.
    The real feature I hope they bring back in the driving range.

    Not just any, The Augusta practice area like TW 14.
    Sent from my iPad Pro
    Posted for "comparison" later on whenever we get to see some screenshots of the game..
    Obviously "Tiger Woods" won't be in the screen shot - lol
    scagwi
    Posted for "comparison" later on whenever we get to see some screenshots of the game..
    Obviously "Tiger Woods" won't be in the screen shot - lol

    Funny enough, I’ve been doing the same. I’ll post some soon.
    Sent from my iPad Pro
    scagwi
    Posted for "comparison" later on whenever we get to see some screenshots of the game..
    Obviously "Tiger Woods" won't be in the screen shot - lol

    Man. I would love this as a playable camera in the new game. Good grab.
    I just really hope the new game does as much as it can to reproduce a true broadcast. Especially the camera angles from the box and during the ball flight.
    My expectations for the graphic fidelity of this game, as next gen only, are farily high. Rory was a good looking game, in my opinion, so fast forwarding 7 years - there’s no reason to expect anything less that stunning visuals.
    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    One thing I’m really looking forward to is the color palette at Augusta, TW14 unfortunately doesn’t capture it very well as it is a dark game overall.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    ^^This.
    Aside from the obvious shortcomings of Rory, the thing I've always hated about EA golf games is they are always too dark. 2k is super bright, probably a bit too much, but makes every course look like an absolute paradise on a sunny day. Very crisp and green. I truly hope EA gets the shading and lighting correct. Your point is dead on...watching the pristine beauty of this course this weekend, deep green, bright (when it's been sunny) is exactly what they need to model. Here's hoping.
    VoltSwoosh
    One thing I’m really looking forward to is the color palette at Augusta, TW14 unfortunately doesn’t capture it very well as it is a dark game overall.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Tiger woods ‘12 was perfect in that aspect.
    jbd345
    Tiger woods ‘12 was perfect in that aspect.

    Definitely brighter, as was 13. But still no where near the ultimate bar. Obviously some hardware limitations too but 09 has really solid lighting too.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    It's a bummer that neither EA nor 2K had a single thing to show us of any new games this week.
    I would have bet money (and lost) that one of the two, at least, would use the opportunity to pump something -- even if not coming for a while.
    scagwi
    It's a bummer that neither EA nor 2K had a single thing to show us of any new games this week.
    I would have bet money (and lost) that one of the two, at least, would use the opportunity to pump something -- even if not coming for a while.

    2K has to start up in the next few weeks. I wonder if EA will start marketing in the fall like they said last year before they postponed.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    VoltSwoosh
    2K has to start up in the next few weeks. I wonder if EA will start marketing in the fall like they said last year before they postponed.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Probably will find out next month for the pga if 2023 major courses are in.
    jbd345
    Probably will find out next month for the pga if 2023 major courses are in.

    Great point there, I hadn’t thought of that.
    I’m going to guess no but I could be wrong.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    VoltSwoosh
    Great point there, I hadn’t thought of that.
    I’m going to guess no but I could be wrong.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

    Kind of defeats the purpose of a delay then or, they really had nothing started when they announced last year. Doesn’t make much sense to play major courses from 2 years ago buy the time the game releases. I’m hoping one or two make it in
    jbd345
    Kind of defeats the purpose of a delay then or, they really had nothing started when they announced last year. Doesn’t make much sense to play major courses from 2 years ago buy the time the game releases. I’m hoping one or two make it in

    Eh, It won’t matter a couple seasons into career mode. I think they already have the base of the game done and courses scanned. My guess it they are using Rory 15 as the base since it’s on frostbite as is PGA 23. Obviously with a new swing mechanism and content.
    Last summer an EA rep said the game was on the fast track for 2022(obviously a delay happened). Also I recall reading last year they had spent days scanning Augusta(Hoping they go back to get updates). But anyway it won’t matter much as long as they have all of the Rory 15 courses. That would put us at 28 total courses including…
    Major Courses
    •Augusta National (Masters)
    •Kiawah Island (PGA Championship)
    •Southern Hills (PGA Championship)
    •Whistling Strait’s (PGA Championship)
    •Quail Hollow (PGA Championship)
    •Oakmont (US Open)
    •The Country Club (US Open)
    •Pebble Beach (US Open)
    •Chambers Bay (US Open)
    •Torrey Pines (US Open)
    •St Andrews (Open Championship)
    •Royal Troon (Open Championship)
    PGA Tour courses
    •East Lake
    •Bay Hill
    •TPC Sawgrass
    •TPC Scottsdale
    •PGA West Stadium Course
    •TPC Boston
    •Wilmington Country Club
    •TPC Southwind
    Other Courses
    •Banff Springs
    •Evian Resort Golf Club (LPGA)
    •Wolf Creek
    Fantasy Courses from Rory 15
    •Treasure Island
    •Coyote Falls
    •The Wetlands
    •Lighthouse point
    •Paracel Storm Par 3
    So lots of major courses for rotation….28 courses would be PLENTY for me, still a far cry from TW14s 40 but with them all being on frostbite and so pretty I wouldn’t care. I hope EA pulls this off. I won’t lie, if most of the Rory 15 courses are missing, I’ll be disappointed.
    Sent from my iPad Pro
    VoltSwoosh
    Eh, It won’t matter a couple seasons into career mode. I think they already have the base of the game done and courses scanned. My guess it they are using Rory 15 as the base since it’s on frostbite as is PGA 23. Obviously with a new swing mechanism and content.
    Last summer an EA rep said the game was on the fast track for 2022(obviously a delay happened). Also I recall reading last year they had spent days scanning Augusta(Hoping they go back to get updates). But anyway it won’t matter much as long as they have all of the Rory 15 courses. That would put us at 28 total courses including…
    Major Courses
    •Augusta National (Masters)
    •Kiawah Island (PGA Championship)
    •Southern Hills (PGA Championship)
    •Whistling Strait’s (PGA Championship)
    •Quail Hollow (PGA Championship)
    •Oakmont (US Open)
    •The Country Club (US Open)
    •Pebble Beach (US Open)
    •Chambers Bay (US Open)
    •Torrey Pines (US Open)
    •St Andrews (Open Championship)
    •Royal Troon (Open Championship)
    PGA Tour courses
    •East Lake
    •Bay Hill
    •TPC Sawgrass
    •TPC Scottsdale
    •PGA West Stadium Course
    •TPC Boston
    •Wilmington Country Club
    •TPC Southwind
    Other Courses
    •Banff Springs
    •Evian Resort Golf Club (LPGA)
    •Wolf Creek
    Fantasy Courses from Rory 15
    •Treasure Island
    •Coyote Falls
    •The Wetlands
    •Lighthouse point
    •Paracel Storm Par 3
    So lots of major courses for rotation….28 courses would be PLENTY for me, still a far cry from TW14s 40 but with them all being on frostbite and so pretty I wouldn’t care. I hope EA pulls this off. I won’t lie, if most of the Rory 15 courses are missing, I’ll be disappointed.
    Sent from my iPad Pro

    I think a good chunk of Rory’s courses will be in. I also think 2k21 was a May announcement and a august release. Still plenty of time for them. Just crossing fingers for a new engine, but with the course creator I’m doubtful. I’m at the point were I’d rather have a created player on 20+ real courses than 10,000 made up ones.
    jbd345
    I think a good chunk of Rory’s courses will be in. I also think 2k21 was a May announcement and a august release. Still plenty of time for them. Just crossing fingers for a new engine, but with the course creator I’m doubtful. I’m at the point were I’d rather have a created player on 20+ real courses than 10,000 made up ones.

    One thing that would really wow me, is if they somehow were able to get a new engine but let you port your old courses into it this giving them a huge graphics boost. I’m sure it’s next to impossible, but I’d be so excited.
    I made my local par 3 on 2k21 and do enjoy it.
    Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max
    Currently watching Live from the PGA, thinking it would be amazing if EA could let you go out on the range before each round and practice, have an golfers beside you and everything. At the very least have it as it was in TW 14.
    Watching this pairing really making me wish Tiger was in the game so I could play this pairing in pga 23
    Hope they have this fan in the game too🤣🤣
    VoltSwoosh
    Honestly getting sick of these tweets. Like, we had all this last year. I know it got delayed but at least they could hint at who’s in the game or a mode or something.

    I honestly think they don't have anything to really show.
    When they pushed it back, I think it was a delayed announcement of an internal decision that had been made earlier.
    i.e. I think they did nothing on development for a long time and only early this year have finally started ramping up
    scagwi
    I honestly think they don't have anything to really show.
    When they pushed it back, I think it was a delayed announcement of an internal decision that had been made earlier.
    i.e. I think they did nothing on development for a long time and only early this year have finally started ramping up

    Agree with this, especially given all those open positions they are hiring for this game that was posted in the other thread.
    scagwi
    I honestly think they don't have anything to really show.
    When they pushed it back, I think it was a delayed announcement of an internal decision that had been made earlier.
    i.e. I think they did nothing on development for a long time and only early this year have finally started ramping up

    If I’m EA Twitter, I would hint at, let’s use Jordan for ex, tweet something like “Take on Southern Hills for the grand slam in pga 23. Coming spring 2023.”
    Literally anything. I’m desperate for news🤣
    VoltSwoosh
    Honestly getting sick of these tweets. Like, we had all this last year. I know it got delayed but at least they could hint at who’s in the game or a mode or something.

    Right now, they just want people aware enough to ask. So they have a tease, and depend on gamers to post about it. Mission accomplished.
    JayhawkerStL
    Right now, they just want people aware enough to ask. So they have a tease, and depend on gamers to post about it. Mission accomplished.

    Very true.
    I'm afraid too they didn't work on the game much since they announced it was delayed, allocating the resources somewhere else. Hopefully it won't be delayed even more like NBA Live.
    bigkev
    I'm afraid too they didn't work on the game much since they announced it was delayed, allocating the resources somewhere else. Hopefully it won't be delayed even more like NBA Live.

    I don’t care if I have to wait until 2025 as long as it’s full of content.
    Another Rory 15 and the series will be dead for another 10 years.
    VoltSwoosh
    I don’t care if I have to wait until 2025 as long as it’s full of content.
    Another Rory 15 and the series will be dead for another 10 years.

    They've already announced 12 courses:
    1) Augusta National Golf Club
    2) Pebble Beach Golf Links
    3) Southern Hills Country Club
    4) Kiawah Island Golf Resort’s Ocean Course
    5) Torrey Pines
    6) The Country Club in Brookline, Mass
    7) The Old Course at St Andrews Links
    8) Evian Resort Golf Club in Évian-les-Bains, France
    9) TPC Southwind
    10) Wilmington Country Club
    11) East Lake Golf Club
    12) They also mentioned The PLAYERS Championship is in, so that means TPC Sawgrass, too.
    That's already 50% more real-life courses than Rory had at launch, which is wild!
    With the game delayed a year, I hope this means they lock down next year's major hosts, too - The Los Angeles Country Club, Royal Liverpool, and Oak Hill CC (East Course).
    Personally, I think the game needs to launch with 20 courses. That's what TW 14 had on disc for the basic version of it. They've had plenty of time to come up with that many, in my eyes.
    VoltSwoosh
    I don’t care if I have to wait until 2025 as long as it’s full of content.

    There should be plenty of PS5 at MSRP in 2025. :D
    @MrArlingtonBeach
    Great course list and I agree with you about needing to launch with 20+
    I'm hopeful that sometime after launch they will also consider some DLC packs of more offbeat courses that are nice, perhaps have been around in other games over the years, but aren't necessarily for PGA related stuff.
    I'd enjoy some of the Bandon courses for instance...also some Hawaii ones
    scagwi
    @MrArlingtonBeach
    Great course list and I agree with you about needing to launch with 20+
    I'm hopeful that sometime after launch they will also consider some DLC packs of more offbeat courses that are nice, perhaps have been around in other games over the years, but aren't necessarily for PGA related stuff.
    I'd enjoy some of the Bandon courses for instance...also some Hawaii ones

    I am quite intrigued to see if EA acquires rights to other courses that 2K has, as well. To be honest, 2K did have a lot of actual courses with actual, annual events played at them. If only their career mode wasn't glitched...
    But both 2K and EA will likely have TPC Southwind, as it's in PGA 2K21 and EA has already announced that one. I would assume Scottsdale and Sawgrass will be in both, too...EA has already said The PLAYERS is in. But other courses that have been in EA games before, like Bay Hill, Riviera, Quail Hollow, TPC Boston, TPC San Antonio, TPC Louisiana, TPC River Highlands...they were in PGA 2K21, too. I wonder how that will all work.
    The Bandon courses and such would be pretty amazing, and they are set to host some USGA amateur events in the near future, too...and we know there's a US Am. component to EA's game...
    VoltSwoosh
    Eh, It won’t matter a couple seasons into career mode. I think they already have the base of the game done and courses scanned. My guess it they are using Rory 15 as the base since it’s on frostbite as is PGA 23. Obviously with a new swing mechanism and content.
    Last summer an EA rep said the game was on the fast track for 2022(obviously a delay happened). Also I recall reading last year they had spent days scanning Augusta(Hoping they go back to get updates). But anyway it won’t matter much as long as they have all of the Rory 15 courses. That would put us at 28 total courses including…
    Major Courses
    •Augusta National (Masters)
    •Kiawah Island (PGA Championship)
    •Southern Hills (PGA Championship)
    •Whistling Strait’s (PGA Championship)
    •Quail Hollow (PGA Championship)
    •Oakmont (US Open)
    •The Country Club (US Open)
    •Pebble Beach (US Open)
    •Chambers Bay (US Open)
    •Torrey Pines (US Open)
    •St Andrews (Open Championship)
    •Royal Troon (Open Championship)
    PGA Tour courses
    •East Lake
    •Bay Hill
    •TPC Sawgrass
    •TPC Scottsdale
    •PGA West Stadium Course
    •TPC Boston
    •Wilmington Country Club
    •TPC Southwind
    Other Courses
    •Banff Springs
    •Evian Resort Golf Club (LPGA)
    •Wolf Creek
    Fantasy Courses from Rory 15
    •Treasure Island
    •Coyote Falls
    •The Wetlands
    •Lighthouse point
    •Paracel Storm Par 3
    So lots of major courses for rotation….28 courses would be PLENTY for me, still a far cry from TW14s 40 but with them all being on frostbite and so pretty I wouldn’t care. I hope EA pulls this off. I won’t lie, if most of the Rory 15 courses are missing, I’ll be disappointed.
    Sent from my iPad Pro

    Somewhere I posted the course list IF all the Rory 15 courses were in and I think it was like 28 courses…. Let me go back and find that….
    Here it is…
    Major Courses——————-
    •Augusta National (Masters)
    •Kiawah Island (PGA Championship)
    •Southern Hills (PGA Championship)
    •Whistling Strait’s (PGA Championship)
    •Quail Hollow (PGA Championship)
    •Oakmont (US Open)
    •The Country Club (US Open)
    •Pebble Beach (US Open)
    •Chambers Bay (US Open)
    •Torrey Pines (US Open)
    •St Andrews (Open Championship)
    •Royal Troon (Open Championship)
    PGA Tour courses——————
    •East Lake
    •Bay Hill
    •TPC Sawgrass
    •TPC Scottsdale
    •PGA West Stadium Course
    •TPC Boston
    •Wilmington Country Club
    •TPC Southwind
    Other Courses
    •Banff Springs
    •Evian Resort Golf Club (LPGA)
    •Wolf Creek
    Fantasy Courses from Rory 15—————
    •Treasure Island
    •Coyote Falls
    •The Wetlands
    •Lighthouse point
    •Paracel Storm Par 3
    So lots of major courses for rotation….28 courses would be PLENTY for me, still a far cry from TW14s 40 but with them all being on frostbite and so pretty I wouldn’t care. I hope EA pulls this off. I won’t lie, if most of the Rory 15 courses are missing, I’ll be disappointed.
    Licenses are a fickle thing...since it's been 7-8 years, who knows if they still have the rights to use courses like Oakmont, Whistling Straits, etc. I would actually be shocked if they DID have all the Rory courses in EA's new game, just due to licensing costs and contracts.
    I will say, I did a recreation of the Irish Course at Whistling Straits in PGA 2K21. It got picked up in TGC Tours and used on their Beer League. On their website database of courses, they had to rename it as "Wisconsin Straits - Irish"...
    So they either were taking some preventative steps in case of any rights issues, or know something we don't...at the same time, there has been no in-game censoring of the course name like there has been for Augusta, Royal Melbourne, St Andrews, etc.
    I'm all in for an Hawaiian event too, they could have a Canada Classic at Banff. Got a feeling if they have DLC courses, it will be some in Rory that they haven't mentioned yet. A way to get their $ back to renew those licenses.
    bigkev
    I'm all in for an Hawaiian event too, they could have a Canada Classic at Banff. Got a feeling if they have DLC courses, it will be some in Rory that they haven't mentioned yet. A way to get their $ back to renew those licenses.

    Yeah, if they do paid DLC, they'll likely do what they did with Tiger. Cycle some courses in and out of the on-disc allotment, and some in the DLC side of things. I seem to recall courses being part of the basic count in one TW game, then the next year it was in the paid DLC packs, aside from holdovers like Pebble and St Andrews.
    As for Hawaii, give me Waialae and Kapalua.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Licenses are a fickle thing...since it's been 7-8 years, who knows if they still have the rights to use courses like Oakmont, Whistling Straits, etc. I would actually be shocked if they DID have all the Rory courses in EA's new game, just due to licensing costs and contracts.
    I will say, I did a recreation of the Irish Course at Whistling Straits in PGA 2K21. It got picked up in TGC Tours and used on their Beer League. On their website database of courses, they had to rename it as "Wisconsin Straits - Irish"...
    So they either were taking some preventative steps in case of any rights issues, or know something we don't...at the same time, there has been no in-game censoring of the course name like there has been for Augusta, Royal Melbourne, St Andrews, etc.

    That’s true, but I can’t help but think most will be in. TW games had double that for years.
    scagwi
    Just all this talking about it gets me excited :drink:

    Dude my ps4 background picture has been the cover of the game since last June.
    Welcome to my world
    VoltSwoosh
    Dude my ps4 background picture has been the cover of the game since last June.
    Welcome to my world

    That is next level!
    Good idea for EA on promo too
    If they ever decide to start showing us the actual game, some wallpapers with beautiful in game shots would be awesome
    scagwi
    That is next level!
    Good idea for EA on promo too
    If they ever decide to start showing us the actual game, some wallpapers with beautiful in game shots would be awesome

    I just want a true free roam photo mode to run around Augusta with!!!
    I imagine 13 at Augusta
    Hornets4ColeAnthony
    With Scottie Scheffler emerging as the number one player in the world hopefully they’ll put him in the game.

    Thinking the same here. Just a few names I want to see….
    Rory
    Spieth
    Scottie
    DJ
    PHIL(doubtful)
    Tiger(impossible)
    Morikawa
    Rickie
    Pops masterson
    Really hope they let you use the pros in career mode like they hinted at last year. I’d use Rory and try to get him up to 19 majors.
    Hornets4ColeAnthony
    I want to see Hovland as well

    Id LOVE to see at least the top 20 in the world rankings.
    Just hope they get faces right this time. Jordan in Rory 15 looks awful.
    Hornets4ColeAnthony
    With Scottie Scheffler emerging as the number one player in the world hopefully they’ll put him in the game.

    Agreed on Scottie, especially if trying to capture new audience and younger folks.
    Seems like a great young man also
    Absolutely love to see a scene like this play after you hit some on the range, show my player walking off to the tee.
    Little things like this go sooooo far for immersion
    VoltSwoosh
    Starting to really believe Rory has the cover curse from the 2015 game.
    0 majors since.

    Well... it was only ....
    (checks notes)
    ...seven years ago
    :y6:
    Brutal...
    Poor guy
    scagwi
    Well... it was only ....
    (checks notes)
    ...seven years ago
    :y6:
    Brutal...
    Poor guy

    5 back now. Still not out of it but needs another great round tomorrow.
    VoltSwoosh
    My word that would be something else.

    I'd be in favor of basically anything shaking up the status quo at EA a bit
    I wish they'd completely re-tool the NHL offering and focus, for instance.
    No clue how specific buyers would help or hinder any of that..
    Someone like Apple would bring pros/cons -- a big Pro being the budget to do basically anything -- lot of potential downsides too though
    They are apparently serious about an AR or VR "something" (we don't know yet exactly what the offering is) -- and they need much better gaming IP and talent working on that (I think)...
    scagwi
    I'd be in favor of basically anything shaking up the status quo at EA a bit
    I wish they'd completely re-tool the NHL offering and focus, for instance.
    No clue how specific buyers would help or hinder any of that..
    Someone like Apple would bring pros/cons -- a big Pro being the budget to do basically anything -- lot of potential downsides too though
    They are apparently serious about an AR or VR "something" (we don't know yet exactly what the offering is) -- and they need much better gaming IP and talent working on that (I think)...

    Imagine more iOS like Ui in games.
    VoltSwoosh
    Imagine more iOS like Ui in games.

    Conversely, imagine versions with no in game money extraction methodologies -- or perhaps ways to pay once/avoid all of that (like Apple Arcade rules)
    Could go many ways
    Well this is interesting...it's part of the lawsuit filed against Jack Nicklaus...
    "Allegedly, there were three specific instances of the 82-year-old breaching the contract; these are said to have included receiving a substantial cash payment for promoting the 2022 Soudal Open, a recent DP World Tour event, as well as alleged wrongful conduct involving a video game being developed with the Masters and PGA Tour."
    https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/jack-nicklaus-company-sues-jack-nicklaus
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Well this is interesting...it's part of the lawsuit filed against Jack Nicklaus...
    "Allegedly, there were three specific instances of the 82-year-old breaching the contract; these are said to have included receiving a substantial cash payment for promoting the 2022 Soudal Open, a recent DP World Tour event, as well as alleged wrongful conduct involving a video game being developed with the Masters and PGA Tour."
    https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/jack-nicklaus-company-sues-jack-nicklaus

    Things I didn’t EVER expect to read.
    VoltSwoosh
    Don’t want to jump ahead, but could he be playable?

    Probably not after this...sounds like the lawsuit alleges that Jack was uncooperative or was actively working against these deals.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Probably not after this...sounds like the lawsuit alleges that Jack was uncooperative or was actively working against these deals.

    Ahhh that’s disheartening. Would absolutely love to see him appear similar to TW 05 and 14.
    Hope it gets cleared up.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Well this is interesting...it's part of the lawsuit filed against Jack Nicklaus...
    "Allegedly, there were three specific instances of the 82-year-old breaching the contract; these are said to have included receiving a substantial cash payment for promoting the 2022 Soudal Open, a recent DP World Tour event, as well as alleged wrongful conduct involving a video game being developed with the Masters and PGA Tour."
    https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/jack-nicklaus-company-sues-jack-nicklaus

    It's probably not much, specially the EA game and the offer he turned down from the Saudis, but that's where the exclusive services issues always come from. And that's where EA is trying to kill other sports games with their exclusive deals.
    bigkev
    It's probably not much, specially the EA game and the offer he turned down from the Saudis, but that's where the exclusive services issues always come from. And that's where EA is trying to kill other sports games with their exclusive deals.

    Unfortunately true. But 2Ks hands aren’t clean either with Tiger being exclusive.
    Ea definitely the worst though.
    I promise I'm not trying to be divisive, but why are we bashing EA for trying to make exclusive deals?
    I promise you, if 2K could secure them (or was willing to pay what it took), they'd love exclusives also.
    These are businesses guys.
    They are in it to win it (financially).
    I get being upset as a consumer -- I agree that the exclusives can be a bummer -- but I don't agree with systematically bashing EA and calling them "the worst" for working to secure exclusives.
    We'd all do the same if our career and livelihood were directly involved.
    scagwi
    I promise I'm not trying to be divisive, but why are we bashing EA for trying to make exclusive deals?
    I promise you, if 2K could secure them (or was willing to pay what it took), they'd love exclusives also.
    These are businesses guys.
    They are in it to win it (financially).
    I get being upset as a consumer -- I agree that the exclusives can be a bummer -- but I don't agree with systematically bashing EA and calling them "the worst" for working to secure exclusives.
    We'd all do the same if our career and livelihood were directly involved.

    Can I be honest here I’m glad EA is the one who got them and not 2K.
    VoltSwoosh
    Can I be honest here I’m glad EA is the one who got them and not 2K.

    Lol
    Truthfully, if people don’t like exclusives, they should be mad at the entities taking the money from the companies.
    Many entities enjoy exclusive deals so they are working with one development company and can maintain tight control over how the IP is used and represented.
    The golf club in Georgia comes to mind
    It is not EA or 2Ks fault for seeking and securing exclusives.
    More power to them for getting those deals if they can!
    Exclusivity builds demand...this is a business practice in all industries.
    "Store X is the ONLY place you can find Product Y!"
    It stinks for the consumer...I'd love to have The Masters in all golf video games. Or Tiger Woods in every golf game. But as been mentioned before, working with just one partner means that the brands have more say/control. And the value of that license is increased at the same time, by potentially forcing companies to bid for it to start with.
    And EA and 2K both partake in this practice, as do other game companies all the time. For them, it's good business.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Exclusivity builds demand...this is a business practice in all industries.
    "Store X is the ONLY place you can find Product Y!"
    It stinks for the consumer...I'd love to have The Masters in all golf video games. Or Tiger Woods in every golf game. But as been mentioned before, working with just one partner means that the brands have more say/control. And the value of that license is increased at the same time, by potentially forcing companies to bid for it to start with.
    And EA and 2K both partake in this practice, as do other game companies all the time. For them, it's good business.

    I would die if Augusta was officially featured in multiple games.
    VoltSwoosh
    Unfortunately true. But 2Ks hands aren’t clean either with Tiger being exclusive.
    Ea definitely the worst though.

    I really wish people wouldn’t make it a moral thing. Every single company leverages their advantages in order to beat the competition. The narrative that 2K, EA, one SDS or any different from each other in this regard is really bogus.
    It’s the kind of narrative that gets us one game per sport, because people aren’t content to enjoy the game they chose. They have to destroy the “unholy” competitor.
    JayhawkerStL
    I really wish people wouldn’t make it a moral thing. Every single company leverages their advantages in order to beat the competition. The narrative that 2K, EA, one SDS or any different from each other in this regard is really bogus.
    It’s the kind of narrative that gets us one game per sport, because people aren’t content to enjoy the game they chose. They have to destroy the “unholy” competitor.

    At the end of the day, they make these games for the green money.
    EA getting all majors is huge for them just like Tiger and 2K.
    Can’t really fault them.
    In the past week, I've now had 2 opportunities to buy a PS5 at MSRP....and have passed.
    There is just nothing I want a console for that I can't do on my PC already.
    I know it probably won't happen, but I really wish EA would bring this to PC and not just XB/PS
    I got lucky and got a PS5 from Sony Direct months ago, and I get your point about not needing one yourself, but I'm sure there are a few guys lurking here that would love to buy one from someone like you that has come across an opportunity and passed. I know if I didn't have one yet, I would certainly pay you the MSRP price and throw in a few bucks for the trouble of shipping it.
    Just a thought.
    scagwi
    In the past week, I've now had 2 opportunities to buy a PS5 at MSRP....and have passed.
    There is just nothing I want a console for that I can't do on my PC already.
    I know it probably won't happen, but I really wish EA would bring this to PC and not just XB/PS

    There are plenty of good games out right now, horizon forbidden west, gran turismo 7, ratchet and clank, ghost of Tsushima directors cut, mlb the show 22. A lot out right now to keep busy until March/April ‘23. Honestly if I were you, with the current state of supply issues if you have a chance to get one get it.
    I'm not looking into a new console until the cost comes down. Not saying it's not worth it for others, but I don't usually jump at new systems until after at least the first price drop. By that time, they usually offer a different variation of the console that's smaller, has more HDD space, includes a game or two, etc.
    jbd345
    There are plenty of good games out right now, horizon forbidden west, gran turismo 7, ratchet and clank, ghost of Tsushima directors cut, mlb the show 22. A lot out right now to keep busy until March/April ‘23. Honestly if I were you, with the current state of supply issues if you have a chance to get one get it.

    Yeah..I hear ya..
    For me, none of that really jumps out beyond GT7
    I'm going to keep waiting.
    Worst case, when EA PGA comes around, I doubt I'll have trouble getting an XBSS or XBSX if I just need something to play it.
    Those are in such supply now that even SX models have been going for below MSRP around me...and we still have 3/4 year to go
    MrArlingtonBeach
    I'm not looking into a new console until the cost comes down. Not saying it's not worth it for others, but I don't usually jump at new systems until after at least the first price drop. By that time, they usually offer a different variation of the console that's smaller, has more HDD space, includes a game or two, etc.

    And with the PS5 being such an unbelievably huge system...I may not get one for years until a Slim version comes someday.
    When I see them at BestBuy (the demo/mock up one) I'm just blown away at how gigantic it is.
    scagwi
    And with the PS5 being such an unbelievably huge system...I may not get one for years until a Slim version comes someday.
    When I see them at BestBuy (the demo/mock up one) I'm just blown away at how gigantic it is.

    Same! Although I have cleared an area for mine some day.
    Would be awesome if a slim model dropped before Christmas or something.
    scagwi
    Great to see
    Maybe I'll be very wrong, but I think the console availability situation will be mostly a non-issue a year from now.

    Let’s hope the biggest issue is finding the game on shelves. (physical of course)
    I hope it sells like hotcakes soon EA will further the series.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    The game must be very far off or they would have at least released some still shots. Not holding my breath on this game.

    They've told us it's Spring 2023
    I don't think it'll be a moment sooner, nor do I expect any previews or news of anything about it until a couple months before release.
    The one to be watching for is 2k23 -- which I do think will come this calendar year
    scagwi
    They've told us it's Spring 2023
    I don't think it'll be a moment sooner, nor do I expect any previews or news of anything about it until a couple months before release.
    The one to be watching for is 2k23 -- which I do think will come this calendar year

    I’m guessing the hype will start up in the fall, like the website said last year up until it was delayed.
    I said it last week and I’ll mention it again, EA PGA 23 MUST have a playoff system similar to TW14…. So essential to the sport.
    Imagine if Madden just conceded you the win if it was tied.
    Please deliver on this EA!!!
    VoltSwoosh
    I said it last week and I’ll mention it again, EA PGA 23 MUST have a playoff system similar to TW14…. So essential to the sport.
    Imagine if Madden just conceded you the win if it was tied.
    Please deliver on this EA!!!

    Think your starting to expect too much from this game. Especially since this is going to be 1st iteration. Can we close this thread until we get some actual news? It’s become a whislist thread
    jbd345
    Think your starting to expect too much from this game. Especially since this is going to be 1st iteration. Can we close this thread until we get some actual news? It’s become a whislist thread

    What's wrong with a wishlist thread? Until we get more info what else is there to discuss?
    jbd345
    Think your starting to expect too much from this game. Especially since this is going to be 1st iteration. Can we close this thread until we get some actual news? It’s become a whislist thread

    I highly doubt this game is starting from scratch. With Rory 15 also bring on the same engine, they will more than likely be using a lot of that game as a base.
    bigkev
    I remember one of the mod at the old Tiger forum asking a wish list for the new game (Rory). It ended up :confused: :( :mad:

    It does make one wonder what the process is here and who's involved in making product direction decisions.
    I really hope they are getting great real golfer input on this.
    I'll be tremendously bummed if they just didn't cast a wide enough net and the gameplay or new swing sucks as a result..
    Going "stealth" isn't great on something like this. It's one reason I wish it were on PC, as it might increase the chances of some type of closed beta during development. (since that's so easy to do on PC)
    You guys have kinda touched on my worst fear for the EA game. I don't care how many PGA courses, mind blowing graphics, real players, trophy presentations there are...if this game doesn't play physically and mechanically at least as well (and hopefully much better) than the current 2k game, we're all going to realize that fact within the first hour of playing it.
    More than Augusta and all of the other PGA goodies and PGA exclusives, if this game doesn't play in a realistic, satisfying, and frustrating way like real golf, then it will be a dud. As much as we've all discussed the Rory shortcomings, and it's assets, I never connected with the way the game played...the swing mechanics, ball physics, none of it. I played it daily for a month trying to convince myself otherwise. It just didn't have the "it" factor with gameplay.
    It's a worry, for sure. Those are run like projects, with a budget. The more $ on the goodies and licenses, probably less $ allocated to development.
    bigkev
    It's a worry, for sure. Those are run like projects, with a budget. The more $ on the goodies and licenses, probably less $ allocated to development.

    Let’s all hope at the very worst the game is good enough that EA wants to make a sequel in 2 or 3 years. I really hope we don’t have to wait another 8 years between games.
    It's going to come back to how many copies they sell. If it's under 1M like the last time, it could well be one and out. Let's hope enough new gen console owners buy the game.
    bigkev
    It's going to come back to how many copies they sell. If it's under 1M like the last time, it could well be one and out. Let's hope enough new gen console owners buy the game.

    If it does come down like that, I will be forever grateful to FINALLY get a next gen Augusta experience. I’ve wondered how it would look since ps4 came out.
    I think the game has tons of potential if EA will hit the marks on the new swing system and content .
    I just hope they are building this as a long term platform base..
    This needs to be EA PGA Tour ... and not so much EA PGA Tour 2023
    A golf game doesn't need even close to annual updates. What it needs is a great content library that grows over time while the core software continually gets fixed and upgraded and tweaked.
    Though I'm not fan of "subscription anything", this really is a game that would benefit from some core game purchase and then ongoing subscriptions for an additional and growing content library.
    2K seemed to be on a good track with that, but not nearly "enough"
    I'm pretty sure we're stuck with either an annual of 2 years cycle at the most. For the casuals and arcade players, the game gets old real fast after 6 to 8 months, they move to other games and never look back. Even some of the hardcore at HB are always complaining when is the next game less than a year in the cycle.
    scagwi
    I just hope they are building this as a long term platform base..
    This needs to be EA PGA Tour ... and not so much EA PGA Tour 2023
    A golf game doesn't need even close to annual updates. What it needs is a great content library that grows over time while the core software continually gets fixed and upgraded and tweaked.
    Though I'm not fan of "subscription anything", this really is a game that would benefit from some core game purchase and then ongoing subscriptions for an additional and growing content library.
    2K seemed to be on a good track with that, but not nearly "enough"

    Assuming they manage to get the swing mechanic right on release I would prefer they use tuners for future updates like NHL so that you could choose to use the original mechanic the game released with if you prefer it.
    scagwi
    It does make one wonder what the process is here and who's involved in making product direction decisions.
    I really hope they are getting great real golfer input on this.
    I'll be tremendously bummed if they just didn't cast a wide enough net and the gameplay or new swing sucks as a result..
    Going "stealth" isn't great on something like this. It's one reason I wish it were on PC, as it might increase the chances of some type of closed beta during development. (since that's so easy to do on PC)

    Dude, they do focus groups. They identify demographic groups they want to sell to, and then they interview them, show them PR, watch gameplay, maybe play some. There is no wishlist we can come up with here that isn’t already in their list of ideas.
    Also, that part of the game design is over. Both golf games will be what they be. I expect most people will end up liking the game they think they will. The approaches are different enough that I don’t see a lot of crossover.
    I’m not worried, because I have enjoyed TWs and Rory’s gameplay. I expect I will like the new game’s gameplay. I’m just hoping they finish the game this time.
    I don’t expect to like the gameplay in 2K23, but I will end up buying it and trying it at some point. Then I will just play whichever is more fun for various reasons.
    What I don’t get is the stress. Because that’s all we do. Play games, stick with ones we like. We have two golf games coming. We all just need one to scratch our itch, and we all have our own itches we need scratched.
    To be honest, unless one of the games just ****s the bed, which I just don’t see happening, I expect most people will have plenty of golf to play.
    JayhawkerStL
    Dude, they do focus groups.

    Can you please not start a reply like this?
    We are all friends here and trying to just have a fun/cordial atmosphere.
    Nobody is "stressing" -- we are just excited and hopeful and discussion about all this is what we have right now and it's fun to think and talk about!
    Folks come up with some cool ideas in conversation here (I think).
    One never knows who is reading what and where.
    (game devs are just people online like the rest of us...and they lurk all over)
    If the game is good enough, I’ll happily pay for a ‘2023 PGA Championship DLC’ for example that added the course and a golfer. (Of course even better if it was free!)
    It doesn’t need to be a yearly thing, just don’t abandon it like Rory.
    JayhawkerStL
    There is no wishlist we can come up with here that isn’t already in their list of ideas.
    Also, that part of the game design is over.

    They've got their model, TW14. The scope was done a long time ago for next game, it's just a matter of how much content / development time, including new swing mechanic, they can get in with the $ allocated.

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