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EA Sports has just released their NHL 17 gameplay trailer. Check it out and post your thoughts!

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# 1 green94 @ 06/22/16 08:33 PM
3 man group hug! Could we see all 5?
 
# 2 13whitebread @ 06/22/16 08:36 PM
Really would like to see 5 man hockey hug. Not much in the trailer but I am quite sure more info is on the way. I just wish it was September allready😁
 
# 3 brandon27 @ 06/22/16 08:46 PM
Typical trailer... Showed off some skating stuff, and goalie stuff a bit I'd think. Hard to really gather anything from it though.

Waiting for some real gameplay videos. The beta won't do much for me since I don't play online, but I may get involved anyways just to get a chance to play, skate, shoot, defend etc to see if changes are noticeable to see if it's actually worth a buy.
 
# 4 Moose24x @ 06/22/16 09:10 PM
Certainly not enough to get me hyped up for an EA hockey game at this point, but some of those saves looked pretty good, some of the net front jostling looked pretty good, and a couple of goals that trickled or deflected in off weird bounces looked welcome. In particular the deflection off of the tie up that I believed featured Thornton looked promising. Also I don't think I've seen the toe drag Tarasenko performed somewhere in there before? Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, not gonna get excited over a short sizzle reel, but some small tidbits caught my eye.
 
# 5 Simple Mathematics @ 06/22/16 09:40 PM
I'd like to know what the struggle behind putting a 5-man hug celebration into the game is. It really doesn't seem that hard.

Personally, I can't stand the celebrations in the game. Every one of them. It's just not realistic. 99.9999999% of the time after a goal in hockey you see the players jump up and skate together for a 5-man hug. Then they go fist bump the guys on the bench. Every single time. I'd prefer having just one animation of a 5-man hug celebration over 500 of these over-the-top soccer-like celebrations.

Besides that, the trailer was decent for a sizzle trailer. I didn't really like that desperation save by the goalie where he throws his body in a backwards 180 to make the save. I did like the tie ups and net battles though. Anything with physicality besides big hits I will welcome with open arms.
 
# 6 joshtree14 @ 06/22/16 09:49 PM
New puck physics?
 
# 7 jake19ny @ 06/22/16 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Simple Mathematics
I'd like to know what the struggle behind putting a 5-man hug celebration into the game is. It really doesn't seem that hard.

Personally, I can't stand the celebrations in the game. Every one of them. It's just not realistic. 99.9999999% of the time after a goal in hockey you see the players jump up and skate together for a 5-man hug. Then they go fist bump the guys on the bench. Every single time. I'd prefer having just one animation of a 5-man hug celebration over 500 of these over-the-top soccer-like celebrations.

Besides that, the trailer was decent for a sizzle trailer. I didn't really like that desperation save by the goalie where he throws his body in a backwards 180 to make the save. I did like the tie ups and net battles though. Anything with physicality besides big hits I will welcome with open arms.
Agreed....but I also think roster share should be a simple addition also. Should not be called a gameplay trailer there is no actual gameplay footage. I guess it was their typical quickie showing off a few things
 
# 8 Caniac94 @ 06/23/16 12:36 AM
Just your basic sizzle trailer for the next NHL game. Can't really take much away from this other than net front tie ups and maybe a few new goalie animations. Other than that it looks like every other trailer they've done for next gen.

Agree with SimpleMathematics on the 5 man cellys. I hate how they stop, lean back, and then slightly pump their fists. It just looks unrealistic. I mean we had 3 man celebrations in NHL 07 dude! Surely we should at least get that on next gen right?
 
# 9 Moose24x @ 06/23/16 12:48 AM
The biggest issue with the celebrations is the skaters' momentum disappears. Say he's flying at high speed toward the corner and fires a sharp angle shot top shelf. In real life, he'd cut his skates so that his momentum would take him around the net, still at a pretty good speed, and then circle around the net as he slows down to join his teammates. In the EA games, the second the pick crosses the line, the skater loses 80% of his speed and will instead drift into the glass doing the awkward fist pimp described above, awkwardly turn around as he bounces face first against the glasses and slowly wander towards his teammates. Looks SO bad. Totally kills submersion for me.
 
# 10 AdamJones113 @ 06/23/16 12:51 AM
A sizzle trailer by any other name is a sizzle trailer. Tie ups looking good, as they should in a sizzle trailer. Excited to have those back in the game though.
 
# 11 giantsharks @ 06/23/16 01:02 AM
Seeing the 3 man celebration pretty much guarantees that its only gonna be 3 man, not 5 man which is unfortunate. The rest seems pretty tough to gather anything from
 
# 12 BlacknBlue @ 06/23/16 01:05 AM
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this game and the majority of this site is concerned with group celebrations and roster sharing.

To each their own because those things would be great, but this video game hasn't played like hockey in a long time and if they don't address some of this series' most fatal flaws on the ice then there might not be a hockey game for much longer. The people I know that are diehard hockey fans and players no longer wish to buy this game and the AI has been so awful that I can't fathom trying to play it alone.
 
# 13 Moose24x @ 06/23/16 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve_OS

EA Sports has just released their NHL 17 gameplay trailer. Check it out and post your thoughts!
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Originally Posted by BlacknBlue
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this game and the majority of this site is concerned with group celebrations and roster sharing.

To each their own because those things would be great, but this video game hasn't played like hockey in a long time and if they don't address some of this series' most fatal flaws on the ice then there might not be a hockey game for much longer. The people I know that are diehard hockey fans and players no longer wish to buy this game and the AI has been so awful that I can't fathom trying to play it alone.
You're not wrong, but part of the reason people want roster sharing is because the community DRASTICALLY changes the rating scale, re-rates virtually every player in the game and, by extension, does a pretty good job of forcing the game to play more like real hockey with much greater player separation as well. In essence, if EA won't fix it, at least giving us roster sharing would allow us to TRY to adjust it to make it a little better. When you go through and create differences of speed and agility of 35-40 attribute points between the slowest and fastest NHLers, instead of ~10, and you do the same for accuracy, puck control, agility, etc. you end up with a totally different game.
 
# 14 giantsharks @ 06/23/16 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BlacknBlue
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this game and the majority of this site is concerned with group celebrations and roster sharing.

To each their own because those things would be great, but this video game hasn't played like hockey in a long time and if they don't address some of this series' most fatal flaws on the ice then there might not be a hockey game for much longer. The people I know that are diehard hockey fans and players no longer wish to buy this game and the AI has been so awful that I can't fathom trying to play it alone.
Well this is a thread about the trailer and seeing how you cant get much from the trailer regarding gameplay, its fine that people are talking about the 5 man celebrations. You really cant take away much more from the trailer
 
# 15 BlacknBlue @ 06/23/16 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by giantsharks
Well this is a thread about the trailer and seeing how you cant get much from the trailer regarding gameplay, its fine that people are talking about the 5 man celebrations. You really cant take away much more from the trailer
Of course not, but I was referencing all of the threads on this forum and how the majority of them lead down the same path of 5 man cellys and roster sharing.

And I don't mean to make it sound like those aren't important or aren't issues that should be addressed, I just read the other sports games forums at this site and most of the threads are breaking down proper 3-4 defense or iso motion, the hit and run, etc. And then there is a small faction of people discussing uniforms and presentation and roster ratings etc. In here is like totally flipped.

Like you said, can't tell much of anything from a trailer that shows the game from angles that nobody will be playing from, but just a casual observation about things being discussed which was peculiar to me.
 
# 16 Dazraz @ 06/23/16 02:00 AM
That could easily have been a trailer from NHL 15 so far as I could tell. I'd rather see a trailer of the Menu screens in NHL 16 to see if they're actually responsive this year!
 
# 17 jake19ny @ 06/23/16 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BlacknBlue
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this game and the majority of this site is concerned with group celebrations and roster sharing.

To each their own because those things would be great, but this video game hasn't played like hockey in a long time and if they don't address some of this series' most fatal flaws on the ice then there might not be a hockey game for much longer. The people I know that are diehard hockey fans and players no longer wish to buy this game and the AI has been so awful that I can't fathom trying to play it alone.
If you think the majority of this site is only concerned with roster sharing and 5 man celebrations than you have not been paying attention. Gameplay is and always will be a priority for most around here. The roster sharing is big because it does have an effect on the gameplay. Guys who do painstaking work on things like the "Revamped Rosters" create better player separation and realistic ratings that in turn make the game play better. Not sure if you have ever had the pleasure of using the revamped rosters but if you did you would know what I mean.

The celebration thing is being talked about because, as another poster mentioned, it's in response to the trailer. EA touted all new celebrations and if what we saw is it, all they did was put a new color lipstick on it. Not only is a three man celebration lame it's even worse watching the other two teammates skate away as if nothing just happened is unacceptable.

We all know gameplay comes first but the celebration thing detracts from the NHL experience. No roster sharing, lame celebrations, and the same goalie masks since 2010 with outdated gear seems lazy and unacceptable.
 
# 18 csamuelsvt @ 06/23/16 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Simple Mathematics
I'd like to know what the struggle behind putting a 5-man hug celebration into the game is. It really doesn't seem that hard.

Personally, I can't stand the celebrations in the game. Every one of them. It's just not realistic. 99.9999999% of the time after a goal in hockey you see the players jump up and skate together for a 5-man hug. Then they go fist bump the guys on the bench. Every single time. I'd prefer having just one animation of a 5-man hug celebration over 500 of these over-the-top soccer-like celebrations.

Besides that, the trailer was decent for a sizzle trailer. I didn't really like that desperation save by the goalie where he throws his body in a backwards 180 to make the save. I did like the tie ups and net battles though. Anything with physicality besides big hits I will welcome with open arms.

Until there's confirmation that 3 man celebrations are in, don't be fooled. In NHL 15/16 they were clever in some of their screens to make it seem like more than 2 player celebrations were in, but clearly that wasn't the case. They would capture some screens when everyone was going in for the hug right at the moment 2 people would celebrate, then capture that picture right before the other 3 would magically skate away. Rammer also mentioned for 16 we would get 3 man celebrations and that Ray Ferraro would possibly come in and record updated commentary for the new game. We know how that turned out.

Lastly, Rammer mentioned I think last year that the reasoning behind not having 5 man celebrations was due to size issues with some of the players. Someone really tall celebrating with players really small caused issues and then it would create more issues with created players. Lame I know because FIFA 14 or Fifa 15 had these issues, then they found a way to take care of it, whether it was a cut scene or real time. Regardless, they fixed it. EA mentioned how they share the tech across the ignite engine, so I don't get WHY this isn't in. There's that cutscene of McDavid going over to the bench and celebrating but idk if that is for when you score a hattrick. I would take that even over the 2 or 3 players simply skating away nonsense we have now.
 
# 19 Splitter77 @ 06/23/16 08:37 AM
they computer AI better clog up the neutral zone.
also there better be more stoppages in play

I don't wanna play 12 minutes straight run and gun with no whistles.
could care less about group hugs
 
# 20 Rufio2031 @ 06/23/16 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlacknBlue
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this game and the majority of this site is concerned with group celebrations and roster sharing.

To each their own because those things would be great, but this video game hasn't played like hockey in a long time and if they don't address some of this series' most fatal flaws on the ice then there might not be a hockey game for much longer. The people I know that are diehard hockey fans and players no longer wish to buy this game and the AI has been so awful that I can't fathom trying to play it alone.
100% with you BlacknBlue. I couldn't care less about the celebrations, even after I got all of my wishlist items. But nothing really matters until they actually put something worth playing on the ice. This franchise has become unplayable for me. Your second paragraph is spot on.
 

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