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In NBA terms, one is old and the other two are getting old. They're accomplished (two titles and three appearances in the last three years) and possibly lacking the passion and drive. They're also essentially guaranteed a spot in the playoffs where they can try to "turn it on" in hopes of another NBA championship.

We definitely haven't seen the last that the Miami Heat and the "Big Three" have to offer, but several factors have diluted their everyday efforts, performances or both. Kevin Durant and the OKC Thunder got the best of the Heat last night in what could be a subtle sign that Miami -- if they even get to the NBA Finals -- just don't have it anymore.

We shouldn't count the Heat and their superstar-bonding project as finished just yet. But what if they never win another title together, or even get that far in the playoffs. For all the hype, hate and excitement we've experienced over the short time they've been together, what if it all ended today?

Sound Off: If the Miami Heat never win another NBA title with the "Big Three", should their accomplishments be judged as successful?

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# 1 Majingir @ 01/30/14 11:46 AM
Considering the Big 3 might not even be in Miami after this year...I think if they don't win a championship this year(or even make it to the NBA Finals), there probably won't be a big 3 in Miami after this season.

Though even if they do stick together, I think 2 championships would be considered successful,but still less than people expected.
 
# 2 eaterofworlds888 @ 01/30/14 12:36 PM
I hate the Heat but I do think they'll 3-peat. I think they should break up after this year though. The future isn't particularly looking the best for them.
 
# 3 braves_94 @ 01/30/14 01:01 PM
This seems quite similar to the Bulls second three-peat. LeBron, like MJ, is the best player in the game. And Wade, like Pippen, has been hampered with leg injuries. Further more, they beat the Thunder for their first of three. The Bulls beat the Sonics. Then the Bulls won two straight series against the Jazz, an experienced and hardened squad. So does this mean, if history repeats itself, the Heat will once again top the Spurs? Who knows. But I can't count out any team with LeBron James from winning it all. While I think the sun is fading on Pat Riley and Co. I think they still have the ability to ride off into the sunset.

Another interesting question, why would James stay in Miami with a core of aging vets? He doesn't even have to look out of the state to find a team better equipped for his final stand in the NBA. Think about this, Orlando has a young nucleus starting with Victor Oladipo, who could be a young Wade. A swing forward in Tobias Harris, that couples greatly with James. A double-double machine in Vucevic. Throw in two first rounders, one almost surely to be Marcus Smart or Dante Exum in the event. Or they could transform Oladipo into a Westbrook point and make a run at Wiggins or Parker. And above all, an owner who is not scared to pass the luxury tax threshold. And that's just in his current state. What about attractive destinations like Philadephila, or his old stumping ground in Cleveland? He might stay one more year for another run, but he's as good as gone after 2015. Too many better options.
 
# 4 MattUM @ 01/30/14 01:02 PM
No, of course not. Any time you win a championship your team is a success. We might have expected more, but they have definitely been a success.

Any Knicks fans wanna chime in?

And Golden State is the best option for Lebron IMO.
 
# 5 braves_94 @ 01/30/14 01:05 PM
And I think two title visits in three final trips, if it comes to that, is in no way disappointing. The Pistons Bad Boy teams did the same exact thinkg,
 
# 6 scottyp180 @ 01/30/14 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Majingir
Considering the Big 3 might not even be in Miami after this year...I think if they don't win a championship this year(or even make it to the NBA Finals), there probably won't be a big 3 in Miami after this season.

Though even if they do stick together, I think 2 championships would be considered successful,but still less than people expected.
It depends how you are grading and determining their success or the term success. I don't think anyone would consider 3 finals appearances and 2 titles in 3 years as failing. However when they teamed up lebron had the famous quote "not one, not two, not three..." if they don't atleast make the finals I would say that this team did not quite live up to expectations. Were they successful? Absolutely. Were they one of if not the best team the years they were together? Yes. Did they accomplish the goals they set for themswlvea? Not in my eyes. They wil go down as a good/great team for the years they were but I won't put them with the likes of the celtics or lakers from the 80s, the bulls of the 90s, the lakers or spurs of the 2000s. In order to reach that level they will have to stick together past this year and product atleast a third championship.
 
# 7 scottyp180 @ 01/30/14 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyp180
It depends how you are grading and determining their success or the term success. I don't think anyone would consider 3 finals appearances and 2 titles in 3 years as failing. However when they teamed up lebron had the famous quote "not one, not two, not three..." if they don't atleast make the finals I would say that this team did not quite live up to expectations. Were they successful? Absolutely. Were they one of if not the best team the years they were together? Yes. Did they accomplish the goals they set for themswlvea? Not in my eyes. They wil go down as a good/great team for the years they were but I won't put them with the likes of the celtics or lakers from the 80s, the bulls of the 90s, the lakers or spurs of the 2000s. In order to reach that level they will have to stick together past this year and product atleast a third championship.
Jusy read that over. Sorry for the spelling mistakes. They were together* Themselves* produce*
 
# 8 scottyp180 @ 01/30/14 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MattUM
No, of course not. Any time you win a championship your team is a success. We might have expected more, but they have definitely been a success.

Any Knicks fans wanna chime in?

And Golden State is the best option for Lebron IMO.
Lebrons best landing option depends on what he is looking for. Does he want to go to the place where he can make the most money? Go to the place where he has the best chance to win for the remainder of his career? Or does he want a little of both, most money with the best chance to win? Also does location matter to him? The spotlight big city like LA, back to a small market like cleveland? Lebron can do whatever he wants. And whatever team he goes to will be a contender.
 
# 9 Phillyboy57 @ 01/30/14 02:31 PM
There is a possibility the Big 3 get split up. If they never win another it probably seen as a failure because of D. Wade's knees. They did a lot in a few years give them credit. Lebron might leave after this year if he sees that Wade can't do it no more since thats the reason he went to Miami to play with Wade.
 
# 10 statum71 @ 01/30/14 02:53 PM
Then LeBron and company would understand JUST how great those Bulls and Lakers teams were that 3-peated and won several titles overall. It's a very very difficult task.
 
# 11 OkayC @ 01/30/14 02:58 PM
i dont call it a failure by any stretch. but i dont know if tbeyll threepeat. if we wanna use history, the lakers lost in six to the celtics, then won in 5 against the magic, then in 7 to the celtics. pretty much exactly how the heats three finals appearances went. of course that history means little to nothing, but four strait finals appearances is quite hard to do. if theyll do it, i really dont know, but the odds are somewhat against them this year.
 
# 12 vtcha @ 01/30/14 06:30 PM
IMO, I strongly believe that LeBron will re-sign along with Wade & Bosh. Although I don't know him personally, I think that LeBron is in the best situation for him in terms of family and friends, culture and lifestyle, marketing, and championship contentions. We all know for a fact that D-Wade isn't going anywhere and the bond that those 2 share is so inseparable that I think it will be the deciding factor in LeBron's decision. Though Wade isn't what he use to be, I still think he has a few more years left in him. Furthermore, there aren't many teams that LeBron can join that will be better than what he has now. The closest would be the Bulls, but the injury of Rose is far more concerning than Wade's. Also I think the bridge has been completely burnt between Dan Gilbert and LeBron and the trade for Deng was possibly an indirect message to LeBron saying "We don't want you".

I have a hunch that the Big 3 will all opt out of this year and re-sign at a discounted price (similar to when they all got together). They're at the point in their careers where they don't care about the money and would rather give the financial flexibility for Riley to after guys to replace the Ray Allens and the Shane Battiers, whom will both probably contemplate retirement.
 
# 13 Melbournelad @ 01/30/14 07:17 PM
I don't see Lebron opting out just yet. Remember he has two player options. I think he sees out his contract until 2016 before making a decision.
 
# 14 lilteapot @ 01/30/14 07:29 PM
They'll unfortunately be looked at as a failure by some idiots who don't realize they went to 3 straight nba finals, won 2, went on the 2nd longest streak in history, and had such a huge impact on the league. If they don't threepeat however, I don't think they can be looked at as a great, all time team.
 
# 15 24 @ 01/30/14 07:34 PM
I don't think the Heat win another title. I understand how much of a beast Lebron is but at the end of the day he is human. His body will eventually break down and he will be unable to do the things he's relied on for his entire career.

Dwyane Wade knee's are shot. I doubt he's even in the league anymore 2 years from now. The Big Three Era will be over pretty soon.
 
# 16 MattUM @ 01/30/14 09:47 PM
If Lebron opts out, Wade should retire. He can easily get a job within the organization or in broadcasting, I highly doubt money is an issue for him...he's been smart with it. If Lebron stays, I can see him picking up his player option and resigning for low $ based on the role he would have. I think he'd be best off the bench for <20 minutes. Heat need to think the future and acquire young talent.

He has a net worth of $100,000,000, but once his knees go, no money can get them back.
 
# 17 Vni @ 01/31/14 07:03 AM
3 straight finals, two championships... A failure?

Pssh.
 
# 18 sactown_13 @ 01/31/14 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Majingir
Considering the Big 3 might not even be in Miami after this year...I think if they don't win a championship this year(or even make it to the NBA Finals), there probably won't be a big 3 in Miami after this season.

Though even if they do stick together, I think 2 championships would be considered successful,but still less than people expected.
Remove the first paragraph. Get to the answer of the question. Yes, they are a sucess. Appeared in finals, won finals then won again. Not a fan of the heat or this buddy system players have but they did grab two rings
 
# 19 jcmreds @ 01/31/14 10:02 AM
They should've never had a second title. Spurs had game 6 won, and Pop hands it to them by sitting Duncan out when they needed a rebound to seal the game.
 
# 20 lilteapot @ 01/31/14 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jcmreds
They should've never had a second title. Spurs had game 6 won, and Pop hands it to them by sitting Duncan out when they needed a rebound to seal the game.
I hate it when people say this. If Spurs had the game won, then they would have had the title. They didn't so they lost. None of this "handed" crap. The game went into OT, they got a second chance and couldn't capitalize. That's it.
 

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