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Alex Rodriguez can't seem to not find a fight these days. Yesterday's revelation that Major League Baseball may push for a lifetime ban of the Yankees slugger if he doesn't take a lesser two year suspension.

A lifetime ban is a huge deal and a gargantuan punishment, but the evidence against A-Rod is said to be substantial -- all the way to him being a recruiter of fellow athletes for the Biogenesis lab.

This has huge implications on baseball gaming, as A-Rod has always been a highly rated player and losing him in the Yankees lineup is at least significant. So what do you think OS? Is a lifetime ban justified?

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# 1 jmaj315 @ 07/30/13 11:44 AM
He's playing games with the MLB. Disrespect and disregard for the rules of the game. He's gotta go...

And i used to love him back in the Seattle days
Even in Texas.
 
# 2 Simple Mathematics @ 07/30/13 11:47 AM
As Shooter would say...



"Doug, kick him off the tour!"
 
# 3 Majingir @ 07/30/13 11:54 AM
Sorta sucks to realize that the AL East today is mostly shaped due to things like PEDs. Teams are where they are, because of that.

Yankees with a few big names(Clemens,Arod ect.), Red Sox with Manny and so on.
 
# 4 braves_94 @ 07/30/13 12:19 PM
Yeah, like Toronto with Jose Canseco and Roger Clemens :P
 
# 5 jmik58 @ 07/30/13 12:32 PM
It never made sense that someone like Pete Rose would get a lifetime ban for betting on baseball because of the chance they could be impacting the outcome of games unethically. Yet someone who takes PEDs to artificially boost their performance isn't impacting the outcome of games? Let's at least be consistent.
 
# 6 orion523 @ 07/30/13 12:54 PM
At this point Rodriguez needs and deserves a lifetime ban. His actions prove to me at least that he feels he's bigger than the game and that the rules don't apply to him. Thankfully no one is bigger than the game and MLB needs to take a stand here and ban this cheater once and for all.
 
# 7 Mules50 @ 07/30/13 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jmik58
It never made sense that someone like Pete Rose would get a lifetime ban for betting on baseball because of the chance they could be impacting the outcome of games unethically. Yet someone who takes PEDs to artificially boost their performance isn't impacting the outcome of games? Let's at least be consistent.
Exactly, the precedent is already set for lifetime bans for a lesser offence, so it is only logical that PED users get lifetime bans. Heck, I still believe that Hank Aaron is the HR king.
 
# 8 brandon27 @ 07/30/13 01:30 PM
I think its justified. Absolutely. They should make the penalties more harsh all the way around. 100 games for a first time offender. Lifetime ban if it happens again. Get that junk out of the game. If they do give him a lifetime ban though, I hope they remove his name from all the record books too in any place it may appear, no matter how insignificant. Not just baseball, but all major sport leagues should do the same.
 
# 9 horrormaster @ 07/30/13 02:29 PM
Lifetime ban for all caught using PEDs and strike all records from the books. When it comes to HRs, would leave only Griffey and Thome in the 600 club that played during the steroid era.
 
# 10 nascar163 @ 07/30/13 03:13 PM
I already wrote my two cents on this, he DEFINITELY has to go and be banned for life. He's been tested positive once in 2003 with Texas, almost caught in 2010 for seeing the main doctor for PEDs, and now the Bio-genesis Scandal. If he doesn't get banned for life, idk what else to say.
 
# 11 maizeblue13 @ 07/30/13 03:14 PM
I say ban anyone who has ever TESTED POSITIVE for PED's from Baseball forever. That includes never being in the Hall of Fame, removing all records set (I'm looking at you, Mr Bonds), etc.

And I emphasize the "TESTED POSITIVE" part. They should only be punished (by being banned) if they test positive for PED's which means that they did put PED's in their body. All this of this biogenesis stuff is just because some guy said that he supplied steroids to players. Anyone could do that. My main point is that none of the biogenesis players tested positive recently, so they shouldn't be punished unless they actually test positive for PED's. A-Rod is a different story though, he took them like 10 years ago and admitted to it, so he should be banned regardless.
 
# 12 bb09red @ 07/30/13 03:30 PM
If these are his choices, shouldn't Ryan Braun have gotten a harsher penalty as well, being his second accusation on evidence?
 
# 13 Money99 @ 07/30/13 03:33 PM
I'm sure most know this story, but some of A-Rod's highschool teammates said he went from benching 100 lbs as a sophomore to 300 as a junior.
That's a lot of strength gain over the course of an offseason.
Jose Conseco also said that he once trained with an 18-YO A-Rod and he was nearly as strong as Jose.

It seems highly likely that A-Rod was using PEDs for his entire career.

Like maizeblue13 said, if you're caught with PED's, it should be a lifetime ban and all records stricken from the book for life.

If a lifetime ban is the first and only punishment, something tells me that guys will stop using them.
Especially if owners are allowed to go after any cheaters to get back any salaries they provided.
 
# 14 Angel_G @ 07/30/13 03:34 PM
Sorry but whoever said yes is just another A-Rod *****, Manny Ramirez got caught twice and he is still in the league. This will be A-Rod's first official suspension so come on. Also he can't pay for what others have done and Braun is already more of disgrace than A-Rod and got off the hook wit 65 games.
 
# 15 Money99 @ 07/30/13 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bb09red
If these are his choices, shouldn't Ryan Braun have gotten a harsher penalty as well, being his second accusation on evidence?
From what I've read, the reported evidence against A-Rod is mountainous compared to what they had on Braun.

I'm guessing there's evidence to suggest that A-Rod has been on roids for years, and also proof that he's been using a lot of underhanded resources to hide it from MLB.
I have a feeling the 'sneakiness' of A-Rod's cheating is what's really grinding Selig's gears.
 
# 16 speels @ 07/30/13 03:50 PM
He doesn't deserve a lifetime ban. And trying to compare to Pete Rose is a very far stretch. I love Pete Rose, but as a manager ne could directly influence his teams wins and losses. A-Rod still had to hit the balls that the pitchers threw and his team had to play well. 1 person can't win a ball game all by themself. I say he gets 2 years, but the Yankees still have to pay his salary, it just goes into the players retirement fund as an extra bonus, that way maybe teams will do there due diligence before signing these assinine contracts to people. A-Rod has made the Yankees an ***-load of money and I think it would be unfair for them not to have to pay the money somewhere.
 
# 17 Money99 @ 07/30/13 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by speels
He doesn't deserve a lifetime ban. And trying to compare to Pete Rose is a very far stretch. I love Pete Rose, but as a manager ne could directly influence his teams wins and losses. A-Rod still had to hit the balls that the pitchers threw and his team had to play well. 1 person can't win a ball game all by themself. I say he gets 2 years, but the Yankees still have to pay his salary, it just goes into the players retirement fund as an extra bonus, that way maybe teams will do there due diligence before signing these assinine contracts to people. A-Rod has made the Yankees an ***-load of money and I think it would be unfair for them not to have to pay the money somewhere.
I wonder how much more money A-Rod has really generated for the Yanks?
They were already a sellout before he came. And now with these allegations, I suppose some could say it's hurt the Yankee brand.
He's been boo'd a lot more than cheered over the past few seasons.

And if he's suspended, he doesn't get paid. The Yanks don't have to pay him or anyone else anything.
But he'll still be owed $60M for 2015 and 2016 once he's allowed to come back.

I'd also argue that being as juiced as he was could influence a lot of games.
Look at his WAR over the course of his career.
Banging out 40+ dingers a year could certainly equate to a lot of victory's.
 
# 18 jhendricks316 @ 07/30/13 04:09 PM
I wouldn't mind a lifetime ban, but I'm not sure of the meaning of justified in this context.
 
# 19 Money99 @ 07/30/13 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dreighver
Really don't care about PEDs... just a form of technological advancement. I would never judge anyone who used them.

That said, the MLB should absolutely ban Rodriguez and Braun for their bold-faced lies. That bothers me, and shows a moral flaw. I couldn't care less about the PED use.

Not really an option for me in the poll.
But what about players that don't want to risk the long-term affects and would prefer to play clean?
They're not playing on a level playing-field.
That's why I want PEDs out.

BTW, PEDs are illegal, which means taking them is immoral, and therefore revealing a moral flaw.
 
# 20 Perfect Zero @ 07/30/13 05:51 PM
I believe that the current system of 50 games, 100 games, and then lifetime ban should be modified to remove the first fifty game level. I can understand perhaps missing one test, but do it twice and it's obvious that you are trying to skirt the system. Rodriguez deserves a ban. Braun probably deserves a ban but since his first test was found by an arbitrator to have reasonable doubt as to whether or not it could be tampered, I'd be happy with 100 games. I love Nelson Cruz; I've met him a couple of times and he's always nice and chatty willing to do anything for his fans. If found to have a positive test, he deserves one-hundred games as well.

This isn't perfect, and it doesn't solve too much from the steroid era, but it's a good start. There has to be an effort to keep the game clean as much as possible. It's good for the fans, the players, and the game itself.
 

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