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Interested in MLB 13 The Show player ratings? Our friend chrisjohnson83 (with the only confirmed copy of the game so far) has provided them to us. Below are the top rated players at each position, to see the rest of the player ratings, check out the MLB 13 The Show screenshots page.

Updated rosters will no doubt be released before the March 5th release date, so keep that in mind.

Top Rated Players at Each Position

Top Rated First Basemen
  • 99 Albert Pujols, Angels
  • 98 Joey Votto, Reds
  • 95 Prince Fielder, Tigers
  • 94 Paul Konerko, White Sox
  • 93 Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers
  • 92 Corey Hart, Brewers
  • 92 Allen Craig, Cardinals
  • 91 Mark Teixeira, Yankees
  • 89 Mike Napoli, Boston
  • 88 Ryan Howard, Phillies
Top Rated Second Basemen
  • 99 Robinson Cano, Yankees
  • 98 Dustin Pedroia, Boston
  • 95 Ian Kinsler, Rangers
  • 93 Brandon Phillips, Reds
  • 90 Jose Altuve, Astros
  • 89 Ben Zobrist, Rays
  • 88 Chase Utley, Phillies
  • 88 Omar Infante, Tigers
  • 87 Emilio Bonifacio, Blue Jays
  • 87 Howie Kendrick, Rangers
Top Rated Third Basemen
  • 99 Miguel Cabrera, Tigers
  • 96 Adrian Beltre, Rangers
  • 93 Evan Longoria, Rays
  • 93 David Wright, Mets
  • 91 Chase Headley, Padres
  • 91 Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals
  • 89 Aramis Ramirez, Brewers
  • 88 Alex Rodriguez, Yankees
  • 86 Pablo Sandoval, Giants
  • 85 Michael Young, Phillies
  • 85 David Freese, Cardinals
Top Rated Shortstops
  • 99 Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies
  • 95 Jose Reyes, Blue Jays
  • 93 Jimmy Rollins, Phillies
  • 90 Derek Jeter, Yankees
  • 90 Starlin Castro, Cubs
  • 88 Elvis Andrus, Rangers
  • 88 Rafael Furcal, Cardinals
  • 88 Hanley Ramirez, Dodgers
  • 85 Asdrubal Cabrera, Indians
  • 85 Erick Aybar, Angels
Top Rated Catchers
  • 99 Buster Posey, Giants
  • 98 Yadier Molina, Cardinals
  • 94 Carlos Ruiz, Phillies
  • 93 Joe Mauer, Twins
  • 93 Matt Wieters, O's
  • 87 Salvador Perez, Royals
  • 88 Brian McCann, Braves
  • 86 A.J. Pierzynski, Rangers
  • 86 Jonathan Lucroy, Brewers
  • 86 Wilin Rosario, Rockies
Top Rated Left Fielders
  • 99 Mike Trout, Angels
  • 99 Ryan Braun, Brewers
  • 99 Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies
  • 92 Yoenis, Cespedes, Oakland
  • 91 Matt Holliday, Cardinals
  • 87 Bryce Harper, Nationals
  • 86 Alfonso Soriano, Cubs
  • 86 Justin Upton, Braves
  • 85 Alex Gordon, Royals
  • 85 Josh Willingham, Twins
  • 85 David Murphy, Rangers
Top Rated Center Fielders
  • 99 Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
  • 99 Matt Kemp, Dodgers
  • 94 Jacoby Ellsbury, Boston
  • 91 Adam Jones, O's
  • 88 B.J. Upton, Braves
  • 87 Curtis Granderson, Yankees
  • 86 Shin-Soo Choo, Reds
  • 85 Coco Crisp, Oakland
  • 84 Austin Jackson, Tigers
  • 84 Angel Pagan, Giants
Top Rated Right Fielders
  • 99 Josh Hamilton, Angels
  • 98 Carlos Beltran, Cardinals
  • 98 Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
  • 95 Giancarlo Stanton, Marlins
  • 93 Nelson Cruz, Rangers
  • 93 Jay Bruce, Reds
  • 91 Jason Heyward, Braves
  • 90 Alex Rios, White Sox
  • 90 Hunter Pence, Giants
  • 89 Torii Hunter, Tigers
  • 89 Ichiro Suzuki, Yankees
Top Rated Designated Hitters
  • 94 Billy Butler, Royals
  • 91 David Ortiz, Boston
  • 88 Edwin Encarnacion, Blue Jays
  • 85 Kevin Youkilis, Yankees
  • 85 Victor Martinez, Tigers
  • 85 Kendrys Morales, Mariners
  • 84 Lance Berkman, Rangers
  • 83 Mark Trumbo, Angels
Top Rated Pitchers
  • 99 Jusin Verlander, Tigers
  • 99 Felix Hernandez, Mariners
  • 99 Stephen Strasburg, Nationals
  • 99 Aroldis Chapman, Reds
  • 99 Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
  • 97 David Price, Rays
  • 96 Chris Sale, White Sox
  • 96 Cliff Lee, Phillies
  • 96 C.C. Sabathia, Yankees
  • 96 Yu Darvish, Rangers
  • 96 Adam Wainwright, Cardinals
  • 95 Matt Kain, Giants
  • 95 Kris Medlen, Braves
  • 94 Rafael Betancourt, Rockies
  • 94 Mat Latos, Reds
  • 94 Zack Greinke, Dodgers
  • 94 Roy Halladay, Phillies
  • 94 Cole Hamels, Phillies
  • 94 Josh Johnson, Blue Jays
  • 94 James Shields, Royals
  • 93 Jered Weaver, Angels
  • 93 R.A. Dickey, Blue Jays
  • 90 Jake Peavy, White Sox
Top Rated Closers
  • 99 Craig Kimbrel, Braves
  • 97 Mariano Rivera, Yankees
  • 95 Jonathan Papelbon, Phillies
  • 96 Jason Motte, Cardinals
  • 95 Joel Hanrahan, Boston
  • 94 Sergio Romo, Giants
  • 93 Fernando Rodney, Rays
  • 93 J.J. Putz, Dbacks
  • 93 Greg Holland, Royals
  • 90 Glen Perkins, Twins
  • 92 Steve Cishek, Marlins
  • 92 John Axford, Brewers
  • 92 Tom Wilhelmsen, Mariners
  • 91 Grant Balfour, Oakland
  • 91 Joe Nathan, Rangers
  • 90 Ryan Madson, Angels
  • 89 Jose Veras, Astros
  • 88 Chris Perez, Indians
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# 141 Cavicchi @ 02/27/13 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
What defines power in this game? Slg, ISOP, HR's, average distance traveled? Someone that had 30 HR's while missing the first month I would think would have, at least, 80+ power.
Absolutely! They have Harper with 78 for power against RHP while Trout (72) has both SLG and OPS higher against RHP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motown
Mike Trout is the closest looking to Mickey Mantle as I have ever seen...I'm talkin' 5 tool player. Until there's a decline in ANY of his arsenals, he deserves the 99 rating imo.

I'm a HUGE Reds fan, & Chapman won't last as a starter & he'll be back as the closer to where he deserves the 99 rating.
If they don't correct Chapman's rating as a Starter, I will make him a closer with appropriate stamina and keep his 99, although I'm not certain he should be a 99. Kimbrel has done it for more than one year, I mean exceptional years, and Chapman has not. In addition, Chapman has to be the only 5th starter rated 99/full bar in the history of this game.
 
# 142 cardinalbird7 @ 02/27/13 09:19 PM
Does anyone know if Matt Carpenter has a secondary position for 2b? He is going to be playing there this year and is already doing so in spring training.
 
# 143 Rodbird @ 02/27/13 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
Does anyone know if Matt Carpenter has a secondary position for 2b? He is going to be playing there this year and is already doing so in spring training.
As a Cardinal fan myself I'm interested in the rest of their 40 man roster. Especially Shelby Miller, Joe Kelly and Matt Adams
 
# 144 3fiddy @ 02/28/13 09:53 AM
[quote=Cavicchi;2044753683]Absolutely! They have Harper with 78 for power against RHP while Trout (72) has both SLG and OPS higher against RHP.


This is jus for arguments sake. I think both are fantastic players. This is more to bunk slugging percentage. First thing that popped in my head was how many singles did he turn to doubles. Or triples. Hope this isn't too off base ..

Mike Trouts slash line 2012. 559 abs. 117 singles. 27 doubles. 8 triples. 30 homers.
Now I'll give my line IF BIG IF HERE Trout didn't have BLAZING speed. And enter that into the slugging calculator.

Trout 559 abs. 115singles. 25 doubles. 1 triple. 30 homers. Slugging comes to ab .513 The likes of Ian Desmond , Jason Kubel , Cory hart , Adam laroche. All of which seem like 70s power. 70s power seemed like so much more with just the bar. We just arguing cents here too
 
# 145 Cavicchi @ 02/28/13 11:17 AM
[quote=3fiddy;2044756005]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavicchi
Absolutely! They have Harper with 78 for power against RHP while Trout (72) has both SLG and OPS higher against RHP.


This is jus for arguments sake. I think both are fantastic players. This is more to bunk slugging percentage. First thing that popped in my head was how many singles did he turn to doubles. Or triples. Hope this isn't too off base ..

Mike Trouts slash line 2012. 559 abs. 117 singles. 27 doubles. 8 triples. 30 homers.
Now I'll give my line IF BIG IF HERE Trout didn't have BLAZING speed. And enter that into the slugging calculator.

Trout 559 abs. 115singles. 25 doubles. 1 triple. 30 homers. Slugging comes to ab .513 The likes of Ian Desmond , Jason Kubel , Cory hart , Adam laroche. All of which seem like 70s power. 70s power seemed like so much more with just the bar. We just arguing cents here too
I am not interested in big ifs, I like facts, statistics that are real.
 
# 146 cardinalbird7 @ 02/28/13 01:35 PM
I agree speed helps with SLG a lot, but he still had 30 homeruns. You'd have to break it down per hit to see how many singles he turned to doubles and doubles he turned into triples. If he played the first month he'd have around 34-35 probably.

Alot what if's and I was questioning the same thing as well. You can't just look at SLG and turn that into power. You have to look at average distance ball traveled, homeruns, and IsoP.
 
# 147 3fiddy @ 02/28/13 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
I agree speed helps with SLG a lot, but he still had 30 homeruns. You'd have to break it down per hit to see how many singles he turned to doubles and doubles he turned into triples. If he played the first month he'd have around 34-35 probably.

Alot what if's and I was questioning the same thing as well. You can't just look at SLG and turn that into power. You have to look at average distance ball traveled, homeruns, and IsoP.
Yes it's not a good tool at all. Really trying to show why slugging and OPS are not perfect power calculators. Trout just an example. Glad Kendrys got some love to but he's listed as a DH... I need his old defense too lol
 
# 148 Cavicchi @ 02/28/13 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
I agree speed helps with SLG a lot, but he still had 30 homeruns. You'd have to break it down per hit to see how many singles he turned to doubles and doubles he turned into triples. If he played the first month he'd have around 34-35 probably.

Alot what if's and I was questioning the same thing as well. You can't just look at SLG and turn that into power. You have to look at average distance ball traveled, homeruns, and IsoP.
Trout plays home games at Anaheim and that is not a easy park to hit homeruns. Anyway, you have statistical data to show why Harper should be rated higher than Trout for power against right-handed pitchers? In the game, Harper is 78 and Trout 72 power vs. RHP.
 
# 149 Cavicchi @ 02/28/13 04:55 PM
I feel that something has been lost in this Harper versus Trout power rating discussion: the reality of real baseball. The homerun leader is not determined by longest average distance of homers, and Slg % leader means just that, Slugging. Then there is OPS and what that means. Trout is not playing in Wrigley Field, which I believe is homer friendly, at least more so than Anaheim.

A double is a double and so on. The leader of doubles is not broken down by speed.
 
# 150 cardinalbird7 @ 02/28/13 05:13 PM
No but I think the reason he was arguing over that was because those "doubles" can be recreated with high contact and high speed. You don't need power for that. If you give Trout 99 power he'd have a SLG over .700 probably.

I still think he deserves at least a 90 Power though. 30 homeruns is pretty impressive, not to mention he didn't play the first month. He had a higher homerun rate than Pujols, yet I can almost bet Pujols has that 90+ power rating.
 
# 151 Cavicchi @ 02/28/13 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
No but I think the reason he was arguing over that was because those "doubles" can be recreated with high contact and high speed. You don't need power for that. If you give Trout 99 power he'd have a SLG over .700 probably.

I still think he deserves at least a 90 Power though. 30 homeruns is pretty impressive, not to mention he didn't play the first month. He had a higher homerun rate than Pujols, yet I can almost bet Pujols has that 90+ power rating.
I don't know about 90, but I do believe he should be higher than Harper's 78, or lower Harper to below 72.
 
# 152 SoonerSports @ 02/28/13 10:10 PM
All I can say is that Harpers Avg. HR distance was longer than Trouts by almost 15-20 feet
 
# 153 ParisB @ 03/01/13 12:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoonerSports
All I can say is that Harpers Avg. HR distance was longer than Trouts by almost 15-20 feet
Trout has a much more compact swing and smashes the ball all over the field. It seems like he makes solid contact every time. The ball screams to the opposite field.

You can make the argument that Trout hits the ball harder.....Trout hit an opposite field home run that went 440' in Comerica. The power is there, and when he tries to hit home runs he can launch them with the best of them (the dude is built like a linebacker).
 
# 154 nomo17k @ 03/01/13 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
I agree speed helps with SLG a lot, but he still had 30 homeruns. You'd have to break it down per hit to see how many singles he turned to doubles and doubles he turned into triples. If he played the first month he'd have around 34-35 probably.

Alot what if's and I was questioning the same thing as well. You can't just look at SLG and turn that into power. You have to look at average distance ball traveled, homeruns, and IsoP.
You cannot just look at HRs in this case. While hitting 30 HRs missing most of April looks impressive, Trout had a very good batting average, meaning he produced a lot of safe hits. If he is really powerful, many more of those safe hits would've been converted into HRs... in fact, just 16.5% (= 100 * 30 / 182) of hits were HRs for Trout. If he had the power of Adam Dunn, who had 37.3% (= 100 * 41/110) of hits in HRs, Trout would've hit 68 HRs (!) in 2012.... so you could argue that Trout reached the 30 HR mark partly because he is generally a great hitter with some but not great pop, and he had enough playing time.

When rating a player for power, you should probably look at something like HR / H or something like that, to better isolate the ability to "rake"
 
# 155 cardinalbird7 @ 03/01/13 04:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomo17k
You cannot just look at HRs in this case. While hitting 30 HRs missing most of April looks impressive, Trout had a very good batting average, meaning he produced a lot of safe hits. If he is really powerful, many more of those safe hits would've been converted into HRs... in fact, just 16.5% (= 100 * 30 / 182) of hits were HRs for Trout. If he had the power of Adam Dunn, who had 37.3% (= 100 * 41/110) of hits in HRs, Trout would've hit 68 HRs (!) in 2012.... so you could argue that Trout reached the 30 HR mark partly because he is generally a great hitter with some but not great pop, and he had enough playing time.

When rating a player for power, you should probably look at something like HR / H or something like that, to better isolate the ability to "rake"
That what I am curious about. I am not saying HR's is the only factor, but I don't think H/HR would be the best stat either. What about guys like Pujols when he'd hit .330 with 40+ HR's? Does he not deserve the 90 power either?

I am not really complaining about his attributes either as more as I am just curious. I guess I still don't understand what constitutes "contact" and "power".
 
# 156 Cavicchi @ 03/01/13 07:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomo17k
You cannot just look at HRs in this case. While hitting 30 HRs missing most of April looks impressive, Trout had a very good batting average, meaning he produced a lot of safe hits. If he is really powerful, many more of those safe hits would've been converted into HRs... in fact, just 16.5% (= 100 * 30 / 182) of hits were HRs for Trout. If he had the power of Adam Dunn, who had 37.3% (= 100 * 41/110) of hits in HRs, Trout would've hit 68 HRs (!) in 2012.... so you could argue that Trout reached the 30 HR mark partly because he is generally a great hitter with some but not great pop, and he had enough playing time.

When rating a player for power, you should probably look at something like HR / H or something like that, to better isolate the ability to "rake"
I would put it another way, Trout has power and can hit for average.

What is this game using to calculate power rating?
 
# 157 nomo17k @ 03/01/13 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
That what I am curious about. I am not saying HR's is the only factor, but I don't think H/HR would be the best stat either. What about guys like Pujols when he'd hit .330 with 40+ HR's? Does he not deserve the 90 power either?

I am not really complaining about his attributes either as more as I am just curious. I guess I still don't understand what constitutes "contact" and "power".
Contact rating = batting average is correct by our experience and has been pretty much confirmed that the rating is designed to replicate. I'm not sure about Power rating exactly, but it's pretty obvious that what it affects most is the speed of the batted ball... the higher the Power rating, the faster the ball travels off the bat for the most part... for grounders, line drives, fly balls.... all. hahahaha

In regular gameplay, I think Contact is probably most well correlated with line drive % in details.... There has been pretty solid evidence (e.g., sabermetrics) that high batting average is mostly a result of more line drives (which tend to fall between fielders before being caught). So high Contact hitters produce more line drives compared to grounders, fly balls, popups, etc.

I think Power pretty much translates to how much jolt you can put into the batted ball.... it tends to work like that in looking at numbers in simmed games.... but in regular gameplay it feels that it has slightly larger effect than just putting jolt, since by making the batted ball travel faster, high Power hitter can convert some less-quality hits into safe hits, finding holes and landing between fielders. So when you compare high and low Power hitters with same Contact, the former tends to outperform (which makes sense even in real life.....).

I just cited HR / H, because it's the easiest number to calculate (almost all baseball stats sites/books has the number), and so long as you can neglect park factors, hitting approach, swing angle and all, it represents what we conceive as power fairly well....... hahaha.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavicchi
I would put it another way, Trout has power and can hit for average.

What is this game using to calculate power rating?
I don't know this exactly, but HR/H does correlate well with HR numbers in the game:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2042370718

That's from simmed games though.... but I doubt things are that different in regular gameplay for this specific case....... haha.






One thing I'd also add is that I think partly the reason why the game doesn't *have* to give exceptionally high Power ratings to those who hit for high averages but still produce 30/40+ HRs or so as well, is that those types of hitters probably are compensating between power and contact approach to some degree... meaning they choose to hit for very high average by not going for fence all the time (reduced power).
 
# 158 Cavicchi @ 03/01/13 11:05 AM
I still don't get why Harper should have higher power rating than Trout, 78-72 vs RHP.
 
# 159 franch1se @ 03/01/13 11:14 AM
that top rated closer list on the first page is wrong. Its missing Huston Street who is a 90 overall
 
# 160 3fiddy @ 03/01/13 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavicchi
I still don't get why Harper should have higher power rating than Trout, 78-72 vs RHP.
No one knows what trout will do next. I hope he goes 50/50 club next year I make my peace with swing plane. Pujols will never hit 50 with that even swing plane Adam dunn will not make enough contact to hit 50. Uppercut swing gives a smaller timing window for peak results. Even swing gives a better chance for contact without peak power. Trout seems to be a man among boys and break the mold. So the ratings guy chose the contact path. I agree awesome power but he can't be 99 everywhere lol This works for me unless he comes out mashing homers then it should be bumped up. Otherwise I think it play good. Wish I knew how to calculate power too I research splits all of January preparing for draft. And sometimes you jus gotta watch the guy.
 


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