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Thanks to chrisjohnson83 (who has already confirmed his legit copy of the game with me), we have screenshots of the overall team ratings for MLB 13 The Show. This includes batting, pitching and defensive team ratings.

The ratings are accurate as of the January 24th roster update, so there will probably be subtle changes before release date on March 5th.

Overall Team Rating
  • 1. Detroit Tigers
  • 2. St. Louis Cardinals
  • 3. Boston Red Sox
  • 4. Los Angeles Angels
  • 5. Toronto Blue Jays
  • 6. Texas Rangers
  • 7. Washington Nationals
  • 8. Atlanta Braves
  • 9. Cincinnati Reds
  • 10. Philadelphia Phillies
  • 11. New York Yankees
  • 12. Los Angeles Dodgers
  • 13. Colorado Rockies
  • 14. Chicago White Sox
  • 15. Arizona Diamondbacks
  • 16. Tampa Bay Rays
  • 17. San Francisco Giants
  • 18. Oakland Athletics
  • 19. Kansas City Royals
  • 20. Milwaukee Brewers
  • 21. Baltimore Orioles
  • 22. Pittsburgh Pirates
  • 23. Seattle Mariners
  • 24. Cleveland Indians
  • 25. San Diego Padres
  • 26. Minnesota Twins
  • 27. Chicago Cubs
  • 28. New York Mets
  • 29. Miami Marlins
  • 30. Houston Astros
Team Batting
  • 1. Detroit Tigers
  • 2. Los Angeles Angels
  • 3. Colorado Rockies
  • 4. Boston Red Sox
  • 5. Texas Rangers
  • 6. Toronto Blue Jays
  • 7. Cincinnati Reds
  • 8. St. Louis Cardinals
  • 9. Washington Nationals
  • 10. Los Angeles Dodgers
  • 11. New York Yankees
  • 12. Atlanta Braves
  • 13. Philadelphia Phillies
  • 14. Milwaukee Brewers
  • 15. Baltimore Orioles
  • 16. Arizona Diamondbacks
  • 17. Chicago White Sox
  • 18. Kansas City Royals
  • 19. Oakland Athletics
  • 20. Pittsburgh Pirates
  • 21. Cleveland Indians
  • 22. San Francisco Giants
  • 23. Seattle Mariners
  • 24. Tampa Bay Rays
  • 25. Miami Marlins
  • 26. New York Mets
  • 27. San Diego Padres
  • 28. Minnesota Twins
  • 29. Chicago Cubs
  • 30. Houston Astros
Team Pitching
  • 1. Philadelphia Phillies
  • 2. Washington Nationals
  • 3. Atlanta Braves
  • 4. St. Louis Cardinals
  • 5. Tampa Bay Rays
  • 6. New York Yankees
  • 7. Toronto Blue Jays
  • 8. Los Angeles Dodgers
  • 9. San Francisco Giants
  • 10. Boston Red Sox
  • 11. Cincinnati Reds
  • 12. Texas Rangers
  • 13. Detroit Tigers
  • 14. Los Angeles Angels
  • 15. Arizona Diamondbacks
  • 16. Oakland Athletics
  • 17. Chicago White Sox
  • 18. Kansas City Royals
  • 19. San Diego Padres
  • 20. Seattle Mariners
  • 21. Cleveland Indians
  • 22. Pittsburgh Pirates
  • 23. Colorado Rockies
  • 24. Milwaukee Brewers
  • 25. Baltimore Orioles
  • 26. Chicago Cubs
  • 27. Minnesota Twins
  • 28. New York Mets
  • 29. Houston Astros
  • 30. Miami Marlins
Team Defense
  • 1. New York Yankees
  • 2. Los Angeles Dodgers
  • 3. Los Angeles Angels
  • 4. Tampa Bay Rays
  • 5. Cincinnati Reds
  • 6. Philadelphia Phillies
  • 7. Atlanta Braves
  • 8. Chicago Cubs
  • 9. Baltimore Orioles
  • 10. San Francisco Giants
  • 11. Texas Rangers
  • 12. Washington Nationals
  • 13. Colorado Rockies
  • 14. St. Louis Cardinals
  • 15. Boston Red Sox
  • 16. Kansas City Royals
  • 17. Arizona Diamondbacks
  • 18. San Diego Padres
  • 19. Detroit Tigers
  • 20. Houston Astros
  • 21. Pittsburgh Pirates
  • 22. Cleveland Indians
  • 23. Seattle Mariners
  • 24. Oakland Athletics
  • 25. Miami Marlins
  • 26. Toronto Blue Jays
  • 27. Minnesota Twins
  • 28. Milwaukee Brewers
  • 29. Chicago White Sox
  • 30. New York Mets

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# 81 kr49erfan @ 02/22/13 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big_tone91
@Kr49erfan How are the cardinals overrated they were 1 win away from back to back World Series appearances. Man are you ignorant.
Nah I think u guys are a top 5 team... It is the Red Sox ranking that boggles my mind... If you look at it that way Giants won 2 out the last 3 World Series, without even losing any big names... I dont think we are top5 but imo we should be ranked anywhere between 10-12...

***Just seen my post... Think u guys are top 5 but not two... Just surprised at some of the ratings.... The O's got bamboozled as well... imo...
 
# 82 imfletcher00 @ 02/22/13 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rules
Because I have no life
Yeah me too...or neither.

I don't get worked up, it is just occasionally pleasant to discuss how/why something is. I'm totally biased as a Giants fan, but I am also a huge fan of the game and don't see the logic of this list.

That being said I would kill most of you with my bare hands to get to go home and play this tonight, so logic isn't the most important thing.
 
# 83 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 03:02 PM
RED SOX

Key departures: IF Mike Aviles, RHP Aaron Cook, IF Ivan DeJesus Jr, 1B James Loney, RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP Mark Melancon, RHP Vicente Padilla, OF Scott Podsednik, OF Cody Ross, OF Jerry Sands, 3B Danny Valencia

Key arrivals: RHP Ryan Dempster, SS Stephen Drew, OF Jonny Gomes, RHP Joel Hanrahan, 1B/C Mike Napoli, C David Ross, RHP Koji Uehara, OF Shane Victorino

You can't deny they got better this offseason. Top 5 better? Well those names have a lot of star power. I'm not too upset they're 'above' the Jays *shudder*

 
# 84 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 03:04 PM
ORIOLES

Key departures: 2B Robert Andino, OF Endy Chavez, OF Bill Hall, DH Nick Johnson, IF Omar Quintanilla, 1B/3B Mark Reynolds, LHP Joe Saunders, DH Jim Thome, LHP Randy Wolf

Key arrivals: IF Alexi Casilla, 1B Travis Ishikawa, RHP Jair Jurrjens, UT Yamaico Navarro, OF Trayvon Robinson, 3B Danny Valencia

even with the improvement of Machado...the O's regressed this offseason IMO.

 
# 85 ScouserHUN @ 02/22/13 03:10 PM
As a Red Sox fan, I'm a bit suprised about the ratings, but after a long thinking it seems logical.

A lot of the Red Sox players had down years in 2012: Ellsbury, Victorino, Napoli, Lester, Buchholz, Bard. Pedroia was injured a lot, and Big Papi only played half of the games. Add to that Lackey, who was pretty bad in 2011, but was a good pitcher before.

So, I think they made those players better then they were in 2012, because Lester is clearly not a 5.0 ERA pitcher ect... If you look at the Red Sox starters they were pretty good in 2011 and before:

Lester: potentially an ACE, but a solid NO 2 at least
Buchholz: same as Lester
Dempster: good no 3
Lackey: good in 2009 and before
Doubront: high strikeout rate, rookie

This is a very good rotation if you look at Carrer stats, instead of 2012.

Just look at MIke Napoli, he hit .320 in 2011, then .220 in 2012. how good he will be? Probably between the two, slightly even better. Ellsbury had an MVP caliber season in 2011, then injury hit in 2012.

If you look at these players, pre 2012, then you get a top 5 team in the Show...

Real life will tell, if these players are going to bounce back or not, but game makers have to rely on carrer stats, instead just 1 year, and of course they can't tell the future.

So I think this list is just fine, but with OSFM rosters there will be no problems
 
# 86 earp4530 @ 02/22/13 03:13 PM
There is no way Boston should be 3rd overall, Idc what anyone says about getting Hanrahan & Napoli that could barely pass a physical and had a bad 2012.
 
# 87 CWSJ @ 02/22/13 03:18 PM
its kinda frustrating to me because i think the Jays should be higher up..Definantly higher then red sox.

I just think its crazy that the team that has the best odds according to vegas(dont know if they still are this was a couple weeks ago) is not even ranked top 3.

but if the way they rank players on here is still the same then i understand why they are not ranked higher
 
# 88 ParisB @ 02/22/13 03:18 PM
Relax, guys. Sheesh.

And for what its worth, Giants ERA on the road is pretty bad. Don't let park factors fool you. They won the world series because their offense was hot and guys like Ross, Scutaro, and Panda were smoking the ball.
 
# 89 DubTrey1 @ 02/22/13 03:19 PM
Well, another year and another great challenge for me to steer my hometown Astros from worse to a little less worse .

I am surprised at the D rating actually, but considering how many runs we give up - you must have to be able to get better a fielding due to the sheer number of hits LOL.
 
# 90 CWSJ @ 02/22/13 03:28 PM
i understand SF fans disappointment because they won WS. I dont think they should be ranked to high just because they won the world series but i think they are ranked to low.

They are just above average in terms of skill in my opinion they just seem to pull it together when it matters most.

I think they should be ranked 10-13
 
# 91 Rules @ 02/22/13 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdncurrency
ORIOLES

Key departures: 2B Robert Andino, OF Endy Chavez, OF Bill Hall, DH Nick Johnson, IF Omar Quintanilla, 1B/3B Mark Reynolds, LHP Joe Saunders, DH Jim Thome, LHP Randy Wolf

Key arrivals: IF Alexi Casilla, 1B Travis Ishikawa, RHP Jair Jurrjens, UT Yamaico Navarro, OF Trayvon Robinson, 3B Danny Valencia

even with the improvement of Machado...the O's regressed this offseason IMO.


What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.


As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.
 
# 92 cardinalbird7 @ 02/22/13 03:30 PM
Kinda surprised to see the Cards 2nd. I was expecting 7th or 8th. But to be fair, most of their key players are returning and they were 4th in run differential last year, 2nd in NL in runs scored, and was 8th in team ERA.

Their rotation and bullpen is going to very deep this year, even with the loss of Carpenter.
 
# 93 giantsharks @ 02/22/13 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonadom
If this was my forum, this thread would not have been created. It draws the most whiniest and biased comments from fans I've ever seen.

These ratings aren't even concrete, are they ?
what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.
 
# 94 Rules @ 02/22/13 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by giantsharks
what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.
Exactly, not like we are bashing anyone. Support your team...........have fun!
 
# 95 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rules
What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.


As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.
I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

 
# 96 Rules @ 02/22/13 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rules
What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.


As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.
Plus, I think Buck opened up the roster so that he can pick up a few players. The ones brought in are not taxing to the budget.
 
# 97 Rules @ 02/22/13 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdncurrency
I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

Pitching has never been solid for the O's in the past decade.
 
# 98 CMH @ 02/22/13 03:42 PM
I've always said there's no reason to argue ratings, but I think the Red Sox ranking just made me drop my jaw.
 
# 99 TeixeiraFanatic @ 02/22/13 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdncurrency
I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.
 
# 100 Officerbill8 @ 02/22/13 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScouserHUN
As a Red Sox fan, I'm a bit suprised about the ratings, but after a long thinking it seems logical.

A lot of the Red Sox players had down years in 2012: Ellsbury, Victorino, Napoli, Lester, Buchholz, Bard. Pedroia was injured a lot, and Big Papi only played half of the games. Add to that Lackey, who was pretty bad in 2011, but was a good pitcher before.

So, I think they made those players better then they were in 2012, because Lester is clearly not a 5.0 ERA pitcher ect... If you look at the Red Sox starters they were pretty good in 2011 and before:

Lester: potentially an ACE, but a solid NO 2 at least
Buchholz: same as Lester
Dempster: good no 3
Lackey: good in 2009 and before
Doubront: high strikeout rate, rookie

This is a very good rotation if you look at Carrer stats, instead of 2012.

Just look at MIke Napoli, he hit .320 in 2011, then .220 in 2012. how good he will be? Probably between the two, slightly even better. Ellsbury had an MVP caliber season in 2011, then injury hit in 2012.

If you look at these players, pre 2012, then you get a top 5 team in the Show...

Real life will tell, if these players are going to bounce back or not, but game makers have to rely on carrer stats, instead just 1 year, and of course they can't tell the future.

So I think this list is just fine, but with OSFM rosters there will be no problems
Most of what you say above is correct.

Let's pretend to forget for a moment the way the show computes the ratings is flawed for a moment (ie: putting too much emphasis on how good a closer is for your pitching overall/ going 60% off your starting lineup and 40% off your bench to compute your hitting overall)

What people don't understand in these rankings is that it's based off EVERY team being 100% healthy.

Are the Red Sox when 100% healthy a top 3 overall team? No. But if they're healthy they are probably a top 10 overall team.

Let's look at last year...they lose 2 of their 3 best players to injury. Ellsbury in April and Ortiz in July (ortiz would have been top 3 in mvp voting at the time of the injury. If you don't believe me look at his #'s last year. I don't think people realize HOW AMAZING a season david ortiz was having in 2012 before he got injured)

So my point is....the Red Sox as an organization have VERY little depth...so they had no chance in plugging in the production of losing 2 of their 3 best players due to injury last year.

These team ratings are assuming ALL players are healthy. And say what you want about the 2012 Red Sox, they were DESIMATED last year with some key injuries on offense. (Ortiz, Ellsbury, Pedroia for 20+ games, Ross for 30+ games, Crawford for 100+ games, etc.)
 


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