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There will be a post with images about this later, but I figured a little teaser never hurt anyone.

If you didn't know, we changed the way we rate players and every position weigh different attributes differently. Before the change the game had 44 players rated 99 or higher. After the change there are 17, here is a little taste.

In no particular order.
  • T.Tulowitzki 99
  • A.Pujols 99
  • R.Braun 99
  • J.Hamilton 99
  • M.Cabrera 99
  • C.Kimbrel 99
  • C.Kershaw 99
  • A.Chapman 99
  • S.Strasburg 99
  • F.Hernandez 99
  • J.Verlander 99
  • B.Posey 99
  • M.Kemp 99
  • R.Cano 99
  • A.McCutchen 99
  • M.Trout 99
  • C.Gonzalez 99
J.Votto just missed the cut at a 98.

Second Baseman Top 5
  • Robinson Cano 99
  • Dustin Pedroia 98
  • Ian Kinsler 95
  • Brandon Phillips 93
  • Jose Altuve 90

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# 141 bp4baseball @ 02/13/13 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by timmuh1515
Question (i read through about 10 pages of this thread and i don't believe it was answered).

Using Altuve as an example. He is rated 90 right. So as an example. If i took 3 terrible players at 2B and increased their stats significantly...could it effect Altuve's overall rating?

So lets say Altuve's speed is 95. If i made 3 second basemen have 99 speed...it would make Altuve's speed less impressive (more or less) so would his overall value drop?

Hope that all makes sense.
I don't think that's how it works. A 99 speed (or some other rating) is a set speed. Theoretically everyone could be 99 if you edited them that way.
 
# 142 Cavicchi @ 02/13/13 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by R0ver
Interesting that Chapman has a 99 rating, is that based on his old closer position?
Must be because he hasn't started a game. Looks like it's based on last year, one year only. I can see Kimbrel a 99 because he's done it for 3 years straight. Now that may raise a question, should a player having one great season be a 99 or should it require 3 great seasons?
 
# 143 timmuh1515 @ 02/13/13 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bp4baseball
I don't think that's how it works. A 99 speed (or some other rating) is a set speed. Theoretically everyone could be 99 if you edited them that way.
You might be right.

I guess my thought is. If Pujols is 99 overall and another 1B comes along with the same exact skill set but with 90+ speed (crazy i know)...to me that would mean Albert isn't a 99 overall player anymore. Maybe 98...but now there is someone better at everything he does.
 
# 144 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennN
Valid point, but doesn't that argue just as much against having a maximum rating as having an overall rating? In OOTP, a rating can exceed a 100 point scale. Wouldn't that counter your issue? I understand some folks would prefer no overall rating (like in the Front Page Sports series) and that's cool - make it optional to have it hidden. I like the shorthand of it.
Yes....it would.

I am one of those in the camp to keep it hidden.

I also prefer something like a scouting report with the 20-80 scale.

Could ANYONE argue that Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds.....Ralph Kiner or Ted Williams are 80's on the 20-80 scale in power?

My thoughts are not to use definitive #'s to represent a player.

That of course is just my humble opinion.

Edit for addition:
I would also like to point out again...that thankfully....SCEA used a formula that in essence does not use the same 0-99 scale as other games as MANY things will go into making a "99" player and it does not mean..."this is the best"....it does mean that the game considers him in the upper echelon of players at that position at that time in the game universe.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 145 3fiddy @ 02/13/13 03:43 PM
More 99 overalls wouldn't lower Altuve. Algorithm not a bell curve. The algorithm will pick from certain points to give the overall. Pujols has fielding, contact , and power No arm (doesn't have chance to showcase in defense) or wheels. 3 of 5 tools but a great fit for 1st base. This also leaves holes for players rated 99 overall, they may not be the best player for your team.

Baseball is all about situations. How you decide to handle those situations is how your team is formed. Not just picking the higher overall ...
 
# 146 timmuh1515 @ 02/13/13 03:46 PM
one other quick question...and my guess is no if my other thought was wrong.

could a player in the minors be ranked 99...only to be ranked lower once moved up to the majors?
 
# 147 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by timmuh1515
one other quick question...and my guess is no if my other thought was wrong.

could a player in the minors be ranked 99...only to be ranked lower once moved up to the majors?
I don't think so.

I don't think it compares it to the MLB-AAA-AA-A ...but to the entire Show "universe".

That would be a good thing to add though.
Good thinking.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 148 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 04:11 PM
I would like to add one thing concerning my comments.

I am of course speaking about REPRESENTING ratings in the show.....(ON SCREEN)
I fully understand that under the hood there must be a number to drive the game engines.


M.K.
Knight165
 
# 149 HustlinOwl @ 02/13/13 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
I would like to add one thing concerning my comments.

I am of course speaking about REPRESENTING ratings in the show.....(ON SCREEN)
I fully understand that under the hood there must be a number to drive the game engines.


M.K.
Knight165
show/hide option like OSDK OOTP
 
# 150 cardinalbird7 @ 02/13/13 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MrOldboy
I have to agree that it takes a lot away from the game when you think about it too hard, which a lot of people on here do.

A thing I and I think a lot of others want is more variability. More differentiation between players. SCEA is going in this direction with the push/pull system. I hope it goes further in the future. I don't want the ratings to be so binary, I want something than can differentiate two hitters with 65 contact. Because they are not exactly the same.

About the park factors in the game, the altitude, etc. How dramatic are the park factors in the game? Does it affect simmed games at all? That is what I would want it to affect really, more so than played games so that the stats would end up replicating what actual ballparks play like.
They are definitely there. This doesn't mean playing at Coors will turn your hitting up .50 points either, but you can notice it. One thing you also can notice is pitch speeds. In DD I have 99 maxed out fastball velocity. At Coors when I pitch high in the zone I can hit 100 MPH. If I pitch at SD low in the zone it is only about 96-97 mph. Of course how tired your pitcher is and how much you put into your meter all affects this. Also breaking balls don't break as much at coors either.
 
# 151 thekingofKC @ 02/13/13 04:32 PM
Is there any possibility in the future for a setting to switch the ratings to a 20-80 scouting scale? Perhaps that is too niche to be in the game.
 
# 152 iCebErgSLiM369 @ 02/13/13 04:44 PM
I dont think the problem is in the numbers themselves. I DO have a problem when an overall rating is given to me and there is no explanation to EXACTLY why or how that number came about. Its kinda confusing to be told there is going to be a new overall ratings system but to not pay too much attention to that overall number. You dont often get rating arguments with games like fifa and nba 2k because for some time now they have been graded on a wide scale to show that no one is perfect. That is their choice and but at least the consumer knows exactly how the system works. My problem here is I dont know whats going on under the hood. In the franchise blog we were told teams will be evaluating players based on what individual franchises value per position. Unless there is going to be another blog explaining how the cpu will evaluate trades, free agents and prospects using this new ratings system, im somewhat dissapointed by the response from developers regarding exactly how the new system works. Maybe im jumping the gun a bit tho. There are just soo many questions that immediately arise with this and I just love this game soo much I want to know everything lol. Oh well...
 
# 153 HustlinOwl @ 02/13/13 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA
We've just re-calibrated our player overall's algorithm today. There were 44 players rated at 99 or above before the change, now there are only 14. Expect to see a larger range or numbers and more variance in general.
so who were final 3 to get to 99?
 
# 154 SA1NT401 @ 02/13/13 04:51 PM
I love the concept. No complaints here.

Can't wait to play with trout.

Anxious to get my Red Sox back on track.

But I will juice middlebrooks to some silly numbers to give the sox an early edge. Always wondered what 99 contact plus 90 pwr would be like.
 
# 155 Jays20593 @ 02/13/13 05:01 PM
Josh Hamilton is a 99?


pfffffffffffffffffffffffttt
 
# 156 authentic @ 02/13/13 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by timmuh1515
one other quick question...and my guess is no if my other thought was wrong.

could a player in the minors be ranked 99...only to be ranked lower once moved up to the majors?
I brought this point up last year and there was a thread on it. My system was rating the player on the level he's at. So a 90 overall AA player may be a 72 at the MLB level, but the only way to find out is scouting, but it would depend on the quality of scouting you have.
 
# 157 MLB Bob @ 02/13/13 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cardinalbird7
They are definitely there. This doesn't mean playing at Coors will turn your hitting up .50 points either, but you can notice it. One thing you also can notice is pitch speeds. In DD I have 99 maxed out fastball velocity. At Coors when I pitch high in the zone I can hit 100 MPH. If I pitch at SD low in the zone it is only about 96-97 mph. Of course how tired your pitcher is and how much you put into your meter all affects this. Also breaking balls don't break as much at coors either.
Why wouldnt you compare throwing high in the zone in COL and High in the zone in SD as a comparison? In the game pitches high in the zone are generally faster and low pitches generally show slower speeds...
 
# 158 slickkill77 @ 02/13/13 07:30 PM
Still way too many 99's. Hamilton has no business being a 99. Tulo has no business being a 99. If anyone deserves a 99 its Votto. He's one of the 3 best hitters in the game.

Strasburg is a 99 as well? He's a good pitcher but aye carumba. He hasn't even pitched a full season yet. David Price has been much better than Strasburg and he's ranked lower? Trout also being a 99....No.
This is why I don't get too caught up in rankings before the game ships. They're whacky

Ratings people at SCEA are way too generous. The ratings need to be more spread out like they did with Madden.
 
# 159 JJT @ 02/13/13 07:44 PM
No they should be like fifa where even messi and ronaldo dont go past a 96. No one is a 99, ever!!!

But you can edit the ratings so nothing to complain about.
 
# 160 mmorg @ 02/13/13 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by slickkill77
Still way too many 99's. Hamilton has no business being a 99. Tulo has no business being a 99. If anyone deserves a 99 its Votto. He's one of the 3 best hitters in the game.

Strasburg is a 99 as well? He's a good pitcher but aye carumba. He hasn't even pitched a full season yet. David Price has been much better than Strasburg and he's ranked lower? Trout also being a 99....No.
This is why I don't get too caught up in rankings before the game ships. They're whacky

Ratings people at SCEA are way too generous. The ratings need to be more spread out like they did with Madden.
The ratings are plenty spread out. Just because someone has a 99 overall doesn't mean they have 99s all across the board. This game is great at differentiating the difference between plays in regards to ratings and accurately rates players who are bad at things and who are good at things.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJT
No they should be like fifa where even messi and ronaldo dont go past a 96. No one is a 99, ever!!!

But you can edit the ratings so nothing to complain about.

The 99 overall literally means nothing. It's the result of an algebraic formula. They aren't going to artificially lower the specific ratings of elite level players just to be more like Fifa.
 


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