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MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

01:48 PM - February 12, 2013 by Russell_SCEA

There will be a post with images about this later, but I figured a little teaser never hurt anyone.

If you didn't know, we changed the way we rate players and every position weigh different attributes differently. Before the change the game had 44 players rated 99 or higher. After the change there are 17, here is a little taste.

In no particular order.

T.Tulowitzki 99
A.Pujols 99
R.Braun 99
J.Hamilton 99
M.Cabrera 99
C.Kimbrel 99
C.Kershaw 99
A.Chapman 99
S.Strasburg 99
F.Hernandez 99
J.Verlander 99
B.Posey 99
M.Kemp 99
R.Cano 99
A.McCutchen 99
M.Trout 99
C.Gonzalez 99

J.Votto just missed the cut at a 98.

Second Baseman Top 5

Robinson Cano 99
Dustin Pedroia 98
Ian Kinsler 95
Brandon Phillips 93
Jose Altuve 90

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# 121 Russell_SCEA @ 02/13/13 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsGamingBlake


	Man, 17 players rated 99 seems like a lot to me. And to think that they originally had 44!? Since this is my first year playing The Show, I'm used to having like 3 or 4 99's. But I 100% trust the SCEA team and have complete faith in them that they will always give us a great game no matter what they do. So I try to keep my mouth shut and let them do their thing and know that I will get an excellent baseball sim on March 5th.

There are about 1,280 players in the MLB the game has chosen 17 of them to be 99 overall. That's less than 2% of the entire league that are considered the elite of the elite.

# 122 rjackson @ 02/13/13 04:38 AM

I just think tha a lot of people are not really getting the concept of the overall rating. Let me try to reiterate it in another way and maybe 1 or 2 people (that's probably it) will get it and stop with the absurdity.

Miguel Cabrera is atrocious when he is manning 3B. If anyone not named Konerko can drag a decent bunt in his direction, he'll probably get on base. He is also one of the best hitters in the game. Somebody who plays terrific defense is more valuable to a baseball team up the middle and Cabrera types are more valuable providing their offense from 3B and getting less balls hit in their direction.

The overall potential just tries to reflect that. That's it. If you kept all else equal and changed Cabrera to a SS, you'd see the overall drop.

I'm sure that you can find some darn good parts for your team if you don't focus on the overall. Having the right bench parts and plattoons is what makes a good team great.

# 123 keymax @ 02/13/13 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rjackson


	I just think tha a lot of people are not really getting the concept of the overall rating. Let me try to reiterate it in another way and maybe 1 or 2 people (that's probably it) will get it and stop with the absurdity. Miguel Cabrera is atrocious when he is manning 3B. If anyone not named Konerko can drag a decent bunt in his direction, he'll probably get on base. He is also one of the best hitters in the game. Somebody who plays terrific defense is more valuable to a baseball team up the middle and Cabrera types are more valuable providing offense and getting less balls hit in their direction. The overall potential just tries to reflect that. That's it. I'm sure that you can find some darn good parts for your team if you don't focus on the overall strictly.

Exactly. Just remember everyone that we had the overall bar in previous versions too and it actually means very little.
For example Rollins and Victorino had the equivalent of a 99(or close to that(rating but as hitters they were average at best. JJ Hardy is one of the best hitters at SS in the game and a sound defender he just lacks speed that drags down his overall rating. I would take Hardy over Rollins any day of the week on my team.

So the OVR rating is pretty much meaningless without looking into other attributes. It's just an arbitrary number assigned to specific attributes the game deems important for a position.

# 124 Curahee @ 02/13/13 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA


	Or the scout's report is wrong there is human element in scouting now.

Not to mention some people's responses.

# 125 SA1NT401 @ 02/13/13 09:43 AM

Just edit the players yourself if you feel the ratings are inflated. By the time I get my hands on this gem, there will only be 2 99s in the game....ability to edit ratings in or out of franchise mode is priceless.

# 126 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 09:48 AM

You guys won't have to edit players.

Don't get hung up on the OVR rating(Dear Lord why did they listen to the masses on this one?).....it doesn't indicate that a player is necessarily a 99 in even one attribute...just that the sum of his parts at this position makes him elite at that time.

M.K.
Knight165

# 127 thaSLAB @ 02/13/13 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	You guys won't have to edit players. Don't get hung up on the OVR rating(Dear Lord why did they listen to the masses on this one?).....it doesn't indicate that a player is necessarily a 99 in even one attribute...just that the sum of his parts at this position makes him elite at that time. M.K. Knight165

Quoted for emphasis...

# 128 Curahee @ 02/13/13 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	(Dear Lord why did they listen to the masses on this one?)

Sheep, brother. Sheep!

# 129 DubTrey1 @ 02/13/13 10:51 AM

I love seeing Altuve rated 90 ... Russell, besides you and me, i think we are the only Stros fans on the planet - and I live here in H. lol. (I do wonder how in the world he's rated 90 though

)

# 130 seanjeezy @ 02/13/13 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA


	Or the scout's report is wrong there is human element in scouting now.

Lol yeah, that too.

So speed doesn't regress at all? It's pretty common for a player to lose speed the second he's introduced to a professional strength and conditioning plan, especially if the player plays an offensive-minded position. It would be a nice touch if something like this was incorporated into the game...

# 131 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by seanjeezy


	Lol yeah, that too. So speed doesn't regress at all? It's pretty common for a player to lose speed the second he's introduced to a professional strength and conditioning plan, especially if the player plays an offensive-minded position. It would be a nice touch if something like this was incorporated into the game...

Speed does regress....but not until regressions starts
(that sounds weird doesn't it?)

M.K.
Knight165

# 132 dalger21 @ 02/13/13 11:06 AM

This thread is pretty much a microcosm of why you will never please everyone no matter what you do. No matter what the dev team does, someone will always have something to complain about. Just a shame really.

# 133 seanjeezy @ 02/13/13 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Speed does regress....but not until regressions starts (that sounds weird doesn't it?) M.K. Knight165

Eh, I can live with that... I remember you saying it doesn't increase as much as other attributes right? So anyway, how 'bout those ratings charts?

# 134 thaSLAB @ 02/13/13 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DubTrey1


	I love seeing Altuve rated 90 ... Russell, besides you and me, i think we are the only Stros fans on the planet - and I live here in H. lol. (I do wonder how in the world he's rated 90 though )

I don't think Ramone's a 'stros fan, so you are alone in the world LOL. Oh wait, Lorne_SCEA is an Astros fan so OK, there are 2 of you.

I'm actually impartial to the Astros, and go to a good handful of their games, I accidentally rooted for them at least two times. My wife works for the Astros organization too, so they get some sympathy cheers.

All jokes aside, the 'stros are OK with me too.

As for Altuve (and ratings in general) I wouldn't get too caught up in the OVR ratings, because of the way the algorithm is calculated. I can tell you that even not all the 99s play the same. Trout's 99 plays way differently than Posey's 99 or even Pujols' 99... actually Trout plays like he's at least a 115 rating!

# 135 GlennN @ 02/13/13 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by phant030


	I'm not a fan of a lot of 99s. I guess since there are less, I can't complain too much.

I agree. The fewer the better. If 99 is the max rating, then how can this be put in a bigger context - What is Babe Ruth? Hank Aaron? Ted Williams? I would like to see better seperation between the overall ratings. I don't know that there is a single player now who deserves a max rating. Just lower the floor, then lower the 99s proportionately. Being a 99 should mean this guy is an all-time great, certain Hall of Famer. That rating should be special, something we rarely see. Heck, the best of the best active now probably shouldn't be over 95, and definately not 17 of them. Just my 2 cents.

# 136 GlennN @ 02/13/13 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	You guys won't have to edit players. Don't get hung up on the OVR rating(Dear Lord why did they listen to the masses on this one?).....it doesn't indicate that a player is necessarily a 99 in even one attribute...just that the sum of his parts at this position makes him elite at that time. M.K. Knight165

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with an overall rating. It just needs to be balanced in the context of the baseball universe. Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, maybe, deserve a 99. Run today's players by that standard and I think we quickly remove the problem (and we no longer have 17 players at 99).

# 137 ThaShark28_316 @ 02/13/13 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DubTrey1


	I love seeing Altuve rated 90 ... Russell, besides you and me, i think we are the only Stros fans on the planet - and I live here in H. lol. (I do wonder how in the world he's rated 90 though )

Nope!!!

Astros/Baseball is my fave, so you aren't alone in the H, sir. I know we might finish last, but I don't care. I can't wait for 3/31 (and 3/5, too!).

# 138 Knight165 @ 02/13/13 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennN


	I disagree. There is nothing wrong with an overall rating. It just needs to be balanced in the context of the baseball universe. Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, maybe, deserve a 99. Run today's players by that standard and I think we quickly remove the problem (and we no longer have 17 players at 99).

You're just proving why there should be no overall #'s though.

So you give Willie,Babe and the Splinter their 99's in history....and nobody now deserves one.

Then in 2016 a kid comes along and breaks every record in baseball after 15 years. EVERY one. Shatters Ruth's SLG/OPS and OPS+ records. Has a higher lifetime OBP than Williams and makes Willie Mays look like Adam Dunn in the OF.

What OVR # are those players then?

IMO...this is why you shouldn't be judging players with an OVR #....especially in a definitive nature.

M.K.
Knight165

# 139 GlennN @ 02/13/13 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	You're just proving why there should be no overall #'s though. So you give Willie,Babe and the Splinter their 99's in history....and nobody now deserves one. Then in 2016 a kid comes along and breaks every record in baseball after 15 years. EVERY one. Shatters Ruth's SLG/OPS and OPS+ records. Has a higher lifetime OBP than Williams and makes Willie Mays look like Adam Dunn in the OF. What OVR # are those players then? IMO...this is why you shouldn't be judging players with an OVR #....especially in a definitive nature. M.K. Knight165

Valid point, but doesn't that argue just as much against having a maximum rating as having an overall rating? In OOTP, a rating can exceed a 100 point scale. Wouldn't that counter your issue? I understand some folks would prefer no overall rating (like in the Front Page Sports series) and that's cool - make it optional to have it hidden. I like the shorthand of it.

# 140 Cavicchi @ 02/13/13 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thaSLAB


	I don't think Ramone's a 'stros fan, so you are alone in the world LOL. Oh wait, Lorne_SCEA is an Astros fan so OK, there are 2 of you. I'm actually impartial to the Astros, and go to a good handful of their games, I accidentally rooted for them at least two times. My wife works for the Astros organization too, so they get some sympathy cheers. All jokes aside, the 'stros are OK with me too. As for Altuve (and ratings in general) I wouldn't get too caught up in the OVR ratings, because of the way the algorithm is calculated. I can tell you that even not all the 99s play the same. Trout's 99 plays way differently than Posey's 99 or even Pujols' 99... actually Trout plays like he's at least a 115 rating!

Well then, I'll make sure Trout is on my team!

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