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It's time to do a social experiment on OS. With coaches on campus at Penn State recruiting current players and trying to get them to leave, and with a group of 30 players pledging their allegiance to Penn State and vowing to never transfer, I couldn't help but think what I'd do if I were in there shoes. No chance of a bowl game the rest of your career, and with slim chances of competing with the Nation's best again through your career, what would you do? Would you transfer before the season? After this season? Or would you stick it out?

You can vote in the poll on your right and above you on the frontpage.

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# 1 BA2929 @ 07/25/12 06:18 PM
I'd get the heck out of there. Why sit and waste my time for my entire career and not get the enjoyment out of playing in a bowl game or for the Big 10 championship?

I honestly don't think Penn State is going to have enough guys to even field a team next year.
 
# 2 Louielouie3 @ 07/25/12 06:31 PM
It would depend. If I were a Senior I'd probably stay. As a Junior it would be really hard both ways, but as a sophomore or freshman I'd bolt.
 
# 3 Sceptic21 @ 07/25/12 06:37 PM
I can't believe anyone would want to stay. Even incoming freshman would never get a chance at a bowl game (unless they are redshirted) or anything. It would seem like a waste.
 
# 4 Retropyro @ 07/25/12 06:41 PM
I'd leave, not just because the program is on probation and I would not get a shot at a Big Ten title or bowl game. Everything the school stood for and preached about being a leader and living with integrity is nothing more than a lie. They talked a good game but could follow their own moral standards or values.
 
# 5 fsufan4423 @ 07/25/12 06:42 PM
If I were a local kid especially with some star power, stay. If I were a player from another region and was just looking toward the NFL, leave.

If had no chance in hell making it to the next level, stay...why go set on another teams pine.

I would think the kids who stay would be remembered more than the ones who left.
 
# 6 Manny_B214 @ 07/25/12 06:45 PM
i'd leave like flash no why im going to a college where i can't win a ring! I like to brag to my rivals that i won district last year, so no way jose!
 
# 7 IrishNDFan @ 07/25/12 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Retropyro
... Everything the school stood for and preached about being a leader and living with integrity is nothing more than a lie. They talked a good game but could follow their own moral standards or values.
I agree for recently recruited players that this is a valid reason some may leave. Recruits and Freshmen can easily leave saying they were lied to.

If I was a sophmore or higher, the bonds with my teammates/fellow students may likely keep me there.
 
# 8 Groove74 @ 07/25/12 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Retropyro
I'd leave, not just because the program is on probation and I would not get a shot at a Big Ten title or bowl game. Everything the school stood for and preached about being a leader and living with integrity is nothing more than a lie. They talked a good game but could follow their own moral standards or values.
I could not agree with you more!!! If it were me I would Out in a flash!!
 
# 9 bigbob @ 07/25/12 07:09 PM
I'd stay, and if I'd be given the chance to go there now, I'd go.
 
# 10 andrew165 @ 07/25/12 07:18 PM
As some born overseas I donít understand why the bowl games are such a big deal. I would stay you are playing for an ex nfl assistant coach of the so who better to get you to the nfl. As a student you would need to ask yourself what you what if you what bowl games then leave. I know conference championships are something all players what but again what more important a trophy or a great education. I would stay for the education and to play in front of 108,000 people as they can offer you both of these. I understand they may not be as completive in coming years due to a lack of depth. But they will still be on TV so a player would get notice

If someone could explain to me why bowl games are so important that would be appreciated
 
# 11 bigbob @ 07/25/12 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew165
As some born overseas I donít understand why the bowl games are such a big deal. I would stay you are playing for an ex nfl assistant coach of the so who better to get you to the nfl. As a student you would need to ask yourself what you what if you what bowl games then leave. I know conference championships are something all players what but again what more important a trophy or a great education. I would stay for the education and to play in front of 108,000 people as they can offer you both of these. I understand they may not be as completive in coming years due to a lack of depth. But they will still be on TV so a player would get notice

If someone could explain to me why bowl games are so important that would be appreciated
Andrew, for some players, one of the big thing for them specifically is if they maybe had a down year or they weren't a big name.. having a huge bowl game will garner them a lot of attention and move them onto a lot of NFL teams radars.
 
# 12 PRAY IV M3RCY @ 07/25/12 07:24 PM
This would be difficult..i would have to put myself in there shoes..say if this happened to tenn.my favorite program..i would prob still stay...
 
# 13 redsrule @ 07/25/12 07:38 PM
Completely depends on what year he is in. If he committed there/ is a freshman, I'd transfer, but if I was a Junior/Senior I'd just stick it it out.
 
# 14 jcool213 @ 07/25/12 07:53 PM
you wounld stick it out.@redsrule you put it 2
 
# 15 jeremym480 @ 07/25/12 08:06 PM
It all depends really. If it's your dream to play in Happy Valley then stay there and make the best of it. Forget about going to a bowl and instead focus on getting to the next level and/or getting a good education.

If I were a freshman I'd leave. If I were a star player I would leave. However, if I were someone like the guy who is Silas Reeds' backup (don't know his name) I would stay. Sure the fact that you can't play in the post season sucks - but you're still playing for a big time school in front of 100k fans each Saturday with a coach who has NFL experience and for a school that has sent many players to the NFL. That's much better than going somewhere and being a backup or going to a small school, in my opinion. The players just need to do what's best for them. The best thing for some may be staying while leaving may be best for others. I don't fault them either way.
 
# 16 DirtyJerz32 @ 07/25/12 08:30 PM
Id stay! We Are...
 
# 17 TreFacTor @ 07/25/12 09:14 PM
With a billion in dept and their credit rating getting readjusted in the near future they may not need to worry about if they transfer. No bowl games for 5 years and restriction on national coverage should be good enough reasons for any of them to jump this sinking ship. The NFL may take a few pity cases but I don't see a lot of the players getting the exposure they need to make it to the NFL especially after this season.
 
# 18 andrew165 @ 07/25/12 09:18 PM
thanks for the explanation big bob
 
# 19 riggs6taters @ 07/25/12 10:09 PM
I'd stay there, I couldn't do that to the current coaching staff that's just trying to right wrongs they had absolutely nothing to do with. If I was SR in high school that already committed to PSU tho I'd change my committment faster than a a perma-ban for personal attack on here lol
 
# 20 edaddy @ 07/25/12 10:18 PM
I think for me the determining factor (if I am not mistaken) is that Penn State has to honor all current and commited football scholarships for 5 yrs whether they play ball or not...so essentially you are guaranteed a great education without having to worry about getting shipped out due to lack of performance wich happens more than people realize..Transferring is a lot of risks especially at this point ..you have to adapt to a new system, new teammates, and new surroundings , and you have to prove yourself all over again without that guarantee of a scholarship the next year..Players like Silas Redd shouldnt have a problem simply because he is a NFL prospect but some others might be taking a risk...I would stay fight through the adversity and form a new legacy for the future..believe me the players who stay will be forever remembered in PennState lore and will be taken care of by alumni..

I like what OBrien is saying now as far as playing in front of 100,000 people 7 times a year would be their bowl games...As far as making it to the next level if a player is talented enough they will be found exposure or not...this will make no difference as far as getting to the next level..
 

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