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Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

05:31 PM - June 11, 2012 by Steve_OS

While most of the Madden NFL 13 news out of E3 seems to be positive, we now have something that could turn into a very big issue. Especially if you enjoy roster editing or use edited rosters created by others.

There seemed to be some confusion about edited rosters. More specifically, if edited rosters could be used in Connected Careers Mode.

I sent a few messages to Justin Dewiel, Community Manager at EA Sports earlier this afternoon and received the following responses.

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	You can edit rosters outside of CC. But you can’t bring them into CC. If you start a new CCM career after one of Donny Moore’s releases you can start with that new roster.

Basically, we have to rely on Donny Moore's roster updates, throughout the season, instead of grabbing updated rosters from the many talented roster editors out there, or simply editing on our own.

Jean Adams, Art Director for Madden NFL 13, mentioned the following, in his presentation blog, which was posted in late April.

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	Mixing and matching the new NIKE uniforms, cleats, face masks, sleeves and other yet to be released gear will keep me and many gamers out there in edit player for hours.

Hmmm. I somehow doubt many gamers will be playing around much in edit player, if we can't use the edits in anything other than a Play Now session.

Josh Looman, Madden NFL 13 Senior Designer mentioned on Twitter the following glimmer of hope.

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	We just ran out of time. It will be in there at some point in the future.

Does he mean Madden NFL 14 or could the Madden NFL 13 team add the editing ability in a Title Update or fix the issue before its August 28th release date? I think I speak for everyone, when I say the sooner, the better.

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# 101 khaliib @ 06/11/12 08:30 PM

This isn't a bash against Donny, but he simply "Does Not" know how rate players within their programming logic to get them to perform in a realistic manner.

One person to judge/decide the perspective on how a Specific Position should react/behave in their game, is just ........!!!

For years the Gaming Community has supplied suggestions w/video's to help utilize their ratings and the manner in which they are programmed to drive animations, to get the most Realistic Gameplay possible.

Since being on Next-Gen for 7 yrs now, this valuable information has fallen on "Deaf" ears although they love to use the tag line "We listened to the community" during their marketing hype phase.

The Negative response isn't just comming from the OS Forum, it's being voiced from every Gaming Forum and social platform available.

"We didn't have time" is simply Horse-pucky because it's already there, it's just "LOCKED" to the gamer.

That's right, they've simply chosen to LOCKED it from the gamer.

If there was a real/logical issue that would arise from allowing Player Ratings Editing and the possibliltiy of problems on the Infinity Engine, then it wouldn't be available for Play Now games, period!!!

It's one thing to force the gaming community to play from the developer's chosen camera angles, but to force gamers to play football from the perspective of "ONE" person is revealing about how they view the Football Gaming Fanbase.

Control and Profits!!!

I had high praise for the Madden Developement and the introduction of a Physics Based System, but to spend $60 on one man's perspective of football, is just _________!

Especially when his roster's has "Always" needed some type of adjusting/editing to make the game play somewhat close to each gamer's perspective of football.

I'll rent as always dealing with any EA Sports game, just to see what the Infinity Engine looks like, but without any ability to edit ratings myself within CC, I'm not going to buy off of "Wishfull" thinking knowing it's plain as day what will arise after release.

I simply want another developer to take a shot at bringing us some Authentic Football at this point.
Just make it Fully Customizable w/out gimmicks, and I'll buy it just cause.

Really!!!!

# 102 Reggie16 @ 06/11/12 08:31 PM

Man oh man, just when we think madden is turning the corner, they Eff something up, this is a big time eff up. I am disgusted. No madden for me, looks like ill just be playing ncaa 13.

# 103 SA1NT401 @ 06/11/12 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bpac55


	This is also a direct quote from the Madden Presentation article By popular demand! Here are some of the new facemasks that have been added to the game... Mixing and matching the new NIKE uniforms, cleats, face masks, sleeves and other yet to be released gear will keep me and many gamers out there in edit player for hours. found here.... http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/n...3-presentation

GREAT find.

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# 104 Knickerbocker @ 06/11/12 08:33 PM

Oh well, I'm prolly biased since I play online franchise only. And this year this mode surpases same mode of any other sport game. I'm excited as hell, but yes it suck for offline gamers,

# 105 RGiles36 @ 06/11/12 08:34 PM

Well, I guess this is a case of taking the good with the bad. The bad, of course, being that we can't edit our OWN rosters & take them into franchise. The good, to a degree, is that we can use Donny's rosters in our franchise.

I'm ok with Donny's rosters as long as they continue to provide player authenticity (equipment, facemasks, etc). They've done a good job w/ making players appear true to life the last two years. It'll only suck if say real life Dez Bryant stops wearing a visor and alas, I won't be able to fix it. Ugh...

# 106 BurghFan @ 06/11/12 08:35 PM

Steve, I had to like your original post solely for you choice of screenshot

Anyway, as has been said before, if we can only used edited roster in Play Now, then you might as well not have them at all. I couldn't even tell you the last time I played a play now game. My general routine is to wait until the end preseason/start regular season rosters come out then jump right into my franchise. Also, I couldn't care less about messing with what different Nike equipment players are wearing.

# 107 Knickerbocker @ 06/11/12 08:36 PM

And Khaliib I agree it sucks for the offline players, but do not talk for the "majority". Madden as most sports games has at least the same number of online players if not more. OS has a large majority in offline, but that is OS.

# 108 SA1NT401 @ 06/11/12 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Icarus2k9


	It's getting to the point where we have to accept EA want the quirky obsessed Madden crowd to just go away now, please. A long time ago I remember someone from EA commenting on here that they didn't want their franchise modes to resemble databases, because that wasn't interesting, and if they were going to bring depth into Madden franchise they were going to do it their way. (Sorry for horrible paraphrasing and even worse memory). This is just a little glimpse of the result of that drive. I just feel they honestly don't understand or would even want to understand why someone would spend hours and hours painstakingly editing their franchise to get it accurate to the last player. Heck, most football fans don't know the backups of their favourite teams, let alone the 53rd man. But Peyton Manning has his face and throwing motion and cadence, AMIRITE? For years, people have attempted to make franchise modes as immersive as possible by tinkering and editing and writing storylines for themselves and setting house rules and all sorts of crazy behaviours...because these guys want that from their games. Now EA have the choice to finally deliver the immersion on their terms, but it's like they don't understand why those obsessive players won't abandon their well worn and well loved ways, or why those gamers don't trust them to deliver accuracy. I'll admit, I'm absolutely stoked for CCM. For the level I follow the sport at it's going to push my buttons in very satisfying ways. But my goodness, are they betting the house on their rosters being perfect, their progression system being awesome and their draft classes and trade logic being sublime. Because we now have no way of helping them any more. Well, it's that or 32 team online franchise, which is an odd direction to push us in because I'm sure they used to say online franchise was untouched because who could get a 32 team league going in the real world?

BRAVO my friend ... Bravo.

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# 109 jerwoods @ 06/11/12 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve_OS


	Yes, you can.

Steve btw I love this place i wish i couild be more positive about these sports games but i just got a new PS3 in march and my NBA 2k12 just stop playing i think i cleaned it too much I know the Madden team works very hard on these games i just am disappointing is all

# 110 JerseySuave4 @ 06/11/12 08:42 PM

So not only can i not edit played during Connected Careers... now i can't even used edited rosters that were done prior to starting Connected Careers? Wow what a ripoff. Was gonna give Madden a chance this year and was excited about it but i'll pass once again since we can only use 1 team in Connected careers and can't even edit the players. No thanks.

# 111 AussieChiefsFan @ 06/11/12 08:43 PM

Well if I could use the user made rosters at all this would be a bigger issue for me. But I have pal games

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# 112 JayInSaratoga @ 06/11/12 08:44 PM

As a software developer by trade I've often defended the Devs on here when people were making unreasonable claims about how the 'botched' the one thing they wanted to see.

This is not one of those times. Working on things like fun story lines and fake twitter accounts is a case of gold plating the toilets while forgetting to finish the plumbing. How can you leave out a foundation feature of the franchise experience, especially when 'you can edit anything in franchise' was one of the big selling points fr Madden 12?

# 113 SA1NT401 @ 06/11/12 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyJim76


	So let me ask this, if I buy Madden and want to play a franchise with the Eagles in 2012, I have no choice but to deal with Kurt Warner coming back and have to deal with fake college players in the draft. No choice, this is what I have to do?

Yup.... Awesome ain't it? Smh

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# 114 JerseySuave4 @ 06/11/12 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Knickerbocker


	And Khaliib I agree it sucks for the offline players, but do not talk for the "majority". Madden as most sports games has at least the same number of online players if not more. OS has a large majority in offline, but that is OS.

i'm pretty sure i saw a stat somewhere on here before that one of the writers from OS or someone else posted that showed more people play offline than online.

# 115 Knickerbocker @ 06/11/12 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4


	i'm pretty sure i saw a stat somewhere on here before that one of the writers from OS or someone else posted that showed more people play offline than online.

Lol as I said before. OS has a mostly offline user base, which doesn't mean that the game does.

# 116 JerseySuave4 @ 06/11/12 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JayInSaratoga


	As a software developer by trade I've often defended the Devs on here when people were making unreasonable claims about how the 'botched' the one thing they wanted to see. This is not one of those times. Working on things like fun story lines and fake twitter accounts is a case of gold plating the toilets while forgetting to finish the plumbing. How can you leave out a foundation feature of the franchise experience, especially when 'you can edit anything in franchise' was one of the big selling points fr Madden 12?

BINGO

I was looking forward to a multi-team offline franchise where i can edit rosters but guess what, can't do any of that so why would i buy this game?

# 117 edaddy @ 06/11/12 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rgiles36


	Well, I guess this is a case of taking the good with the bad. The bad, of course, being that we can't edit our OWN rosters & take them into franchise. The good, to a degree, is that we can use Donny's rosters in our franchise. I'm ok with Donny's rosters as long as they continue to provide player authenticity (equipment, facemasks, etc). They've done a good job w/ making players appear true to life the last two years. It'll only suck if say real life Dez Bryant stops wearing a visor and alas, I won't be able to fix it. Ugh...

Hey man I am assuming that you were at the Community events this year along with other game changers if so was the idea of no roster editing brought up by EA and if so what was the response by you guys ..just curious !!! If you were not a part of it then just ignore the question..You sound just as suprised as us..thanks!!

# 118 JerseySuave4 @ 06/11/12 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Knickerbocker


	Lol as I said before. OS has a mostly offline user base, which doesn't mean that the game does.

i didn't say the stat was only OS people. I believe it was in an article talking about a feature for one of the games where they said that by their stats more people do play offline than online.

# 119 SA1NT401 @ 06/11/12 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4


	i didn't say the stat was only OS people. I believe it was in an article talking about a feature for one of the games where they said that by their stats more people do play offline than online.

I remember something to do with that as well.

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# 120 jerwoods @ 06/11/12 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas


	I feel the same way. With the exception of the ability to change rosters, they hit niche groups the hardest with no 32 team control, no fantasy draft, and no NCAA import. Obviously the player editing is something that affects a large number of people as well but I think there is also a lot of people that either aren't affected or devastated by it.

I admire u for finding the positive in this but EA Through that only 5-10 Percent Edit when its closer to 40-60 Percent

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