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# 41 raguel @ 05/02/12 02:27 PM

I don't like penalties either. I don't necessarily want more penalties, I just want penalties thrown on obvious P.I. plays. If that means less contact (better pathing?) between defender and receiver I can live with that.

Anyone remember the good old days when the receiver could initiate contact and a flag would be thrown on the defense? LOL I had a friend who'd do that to me at least once a game.

# 42 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by raguel


	I don't like penalties either. I don't necessarily want more penalties, I just want penalties thrown on obvious P.I. plays. If that means less contact (better pathing?) between defender and receiver I can live with that. Anyone remember the good old days when the receiver could initiate contact and a flag would be thrown on the defense? LOL I had a friend who'd do that to me at least once a game.

Hold up, let me explain bro, I think their might be some misunderstanding here...

If you love watching the game of football on Sundays, then thats all I want to try and experience on the field in madden. Im not asking for penalties every down, im just wanting most if not all included into the package I pay $60 a year for.

But let it be known that all this should be optional to your liking bro, i just want them to add it with my discretion on if and when I decide to use them or not is all.

# 43 NASCARS @ 05/02/12 03:18 PM

The guy that is the Creative Lead for Madden this year put out a Virtual Playbook diary or whatever last year that said helmet stickers were an important addition to the presentation of the game. Sounds super creative. All I've heard them talk about is new camera angles, motion blur and lighting. Holy crap. Someone needs to shake the hell out of the Marketing guy over there at EA Sports.

You want to really create a buzz in the Madden community? How about you announce that you've revamped the franchise mode? You know, the one that's been UNTOUCHED (minus the cutting of players through preseason that was HORRIBLY done last year) for the past several years. Coaches don't mean enough. Buying upgrades for your stadium literally does nothing. Hell, the logos for moving a team ARE THE SAME THEY WERE IN THE YEAR 2000.

I love gameplay as much as the next guy, but I understand there is only so much you can do with a football game to make it realistic. There are just so many moving parts and contact between the player models (which, by the way, everyone in the game looks like they're on steroids). But there is literally no excuse for the franchise mode, which is essentially a collection of menus, to be as bare bones and horrible as it is.

NBA 2K has team chemistry ratings, coach potential, a completely rendered version of commissioner David Stern and deputy commissioner Adam Silver at the NBA draft, a trade system that allows you to see what a team would want for a certain player (Trade Finder tool), NBA.com homepage with all of the latest scores and stories about contracts, drama on the teams, etc, and a white house visit for the team that wins the championship.

So, gimme a break.

# 44 NASCARS @ 05/02/12 03:27 PM

They've taken away more from the Madden franchise mode in the recent years than they've added to it (Radio Show, Mini-Camp training, Pre-Season position battles, etc.). What's so crazy is that the majority of the stuff they've taken away was from LAST GEN CONSOLES. I know it's got to be more difficult to create a dynamic lighting system than it is for Jim Nantz to record a few lines of dialogue saying the names and team names of places a franchise could move to (or hell, just let them keep the same name EX: Los Angeles Rams).

There are so many problems with gameplay it's hard to list in 1 website, let alone 1 forum or 1 forum post. But the problems with the user interface in the different modes is totally unacceptable. They don't even have to "fix" the game to make it SO much better. Just give us some details that make us more immersed in the total experience. The majority of people that play this game play Franchise mode, either alone or with friends. Make that an enjoyable process rather than a flat one.

# 45 Big FN Deal @ 05/02/12 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tazdevil20


	I think it's fine for people to play without penalties. However, why isn't it an option? Not only should I be able to turn them off, but I should be able to adjust the frequency of it happening. I should be able to set up my game so that a penalty is called nearly every other play. I'll never forget when I was playing NFL 2k5 years ago and my buddy I was playing against online called a screen play. He used the falcons so he had Vick, so he scrambled a bit because my line got in there (obviously on the screen). This delayed the development of the play. He caught the pass with Dunn and ran for about 30 yards. However, flags got thrown (and yes, they were actually thrown by the ref on the field in real time). The penalty? Ineligible man downfield. This penalty does not even exist in Madden. I remember how we paused the game and talked for about 30 minutes about how awesome it was that the penalty was called. His lineman had gotten downfield because he waited too long to throw the ball. In the same game, I completed a pass for a 20 yard gain only to see flags again. My receiver (Amani Toomer), had been bumped and he ran out of bounds, but came back in to catch the ball. The penalty? Illegal touching. Once again this was met with awe as far as having this level of detail and realism in the game. This penalty also does not even exist in Madden. There are a lot more instances I can bring up that these guys should be ashamed of, but I don't feel like typing them all out again. Just these two facts alone is enough to warrant criticism of the "only officially licensed game of the NFL". This is an insult to the fan base and is an absolute embarrassment to the Tiburon team. EMBARRASSING. Some can say I'm being harsh, or an EA *****. I'm none of those. I'm holding them accountable. I used to be a loyal fan of Madden, from 1988 (Apple iie version) to 1999. It's obvious that their ability to produce something that warrants the 60 dollar price tag (not including the other charges if you do any of the micro transactions) is non existent. I rest my case...

Yeah, this right here is the quickest way to end a "Madden is realistic enough" discussion, lol. Penalties or the lack thereof in Madden in 2012 is a shot right to the heart of that.

That said, they did add illegal touch in M13, so now receivers can't just step out bounds and back in to make a catch. Also, they are reported to be making a strong effort for getting defensive PI to trigger correctly.

Overall, penalties are one of those areas that really highlight the worst thing about no other NFL game to choose, target marketing. The fact that each consumer base for various games has a different set of priorities that are usually reflected in the product, makes having a choice so much better.

Here we are in the 8th edition of next-gen Madden and illegal touch is just being added but I am sure if more current NFL games were in the market, some other company would have considered applicable real NFL penalties a essential, due to it's consumer base.

Oh well.

# 46 raguel @ 05/02/12 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	Hold up, let me explain bro, I think their might be some misunderstanding here... If you love watching the game of football on Sundays, then thats all I want to try and experience on the field in madden. Im not asking for penalties every down, im just wanting most if not all included into the package I pay $60 a year for. But let it be known that all this should be optional to your liking bro, i just want them to add it with my discretion on if and when I decide to use them or not is all.

I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm disagreeing with EA's approach.

# 47 x Adjust x @ 05/02/12 06:18 PM

I'm adjust from the other site, and I'm coming to set the record straight. I'm a tournament players so of course I play different than you guys. I play to win, as do everyone else I play with. Everyone spends $60 so they should be able to use the game how ever they want, I find the tournament competition more exciting than the sim play. But that's another story. I find glitches when I first get the game which is 2-3 weeks early, and I send them to EA. I don't keep them, I don't hide them, and I don't use them to gain. I post videos, show how to use it, and tell everyone what to do. Do you blame me for finding the faults in the game, or the developers for allowing it, or the beta testers for not finding them? You can think of me as an extended beta tester, I find things before the game is out so people like you can have a seamless online experience. So go check my youtube channel, and see how many things i've saved you guys from.

# 48 ClevelandFan @ 05/02/12 06:23 PM

lol why yall mad tho? Sim players will be sim players and tourney players will be tourney players.

# 49 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzz


	Hey Smoke6 or Smoke Capone whichever you want to be called, you came over to TGL and we've helped you defeat nearly all the tactics sued in the lobby except the DC glitch always plagues Madden yearly. Funny thing is you come for our help then you turn around and try to cast us in a bad light constantly after you were told every man has a right to play the "Video game" the way "he see's fit". Hell you even went as far as to beef with one of the TGL Elite and threatened him. Wow, this goes to show every time someone crosses a bridge and then crosses back to the other side just to burn the bridge he/she is a troll.....

Every thread you guys post almost is a glitch or about a glitch or how to counter a glitch. I takes that info and spreads it to the people who need it and should know there's a counter out there and not to "fight fire with fire"!

Keep that mess to yall selves and all should be good, but you cant, you go into the pub lobbies and used these cheap tricks on players who dont even play that way. So do me and everyone else a favor and make a community and you guys keep the tricks and glitches to yourselves.

Some of the dudes their have been cool, but the rest are nothing but followers. Oh and the guy I supposedly threatened wanted to get into some E thugging, well for the record, I THUGGS for reals, so if you have the balls to call people names over the internet then I feel you have the balls to do it in person. If you cant show that same respect and keep it free from name calling then I will may you a visit and you can end up on WSHH or youtube over some madden beef.

The point of all this is the fact you guys blatantly look for these "Bail out" tactics because the fact of the matter is that YOU GUYS CANT ADJUST!

Its always we're the cry babies and whatnot when you clearly have the upper hand in playing AND1 FOOTBALL against someone just trying to play a pick up game. Theirs other footballs games i have listed for you guys to have way with your gimmicks and shenanigans all day long, its like steroids in sports gaming if you will.

So yeah, be mad at me when one of you guys made the thread on whats the first thing you're gonna do when you get madden 13 and the first answers were "ruin online gaming by checking for old glitches and use them as if I am god at madden"!

You mad at the wrong one and it freaking childish you guys even go that far just to compete or even call yourselves competitors when you play to the exploits of the game and not that of your opponents.

Sad thing is hardly any of you are even willing to play amongst yourselves in your own community unless its labbing some new gimmicky scheme from some lame ebook, money plays, or glitches.

And yet, not one of you guys have ever provided me with evidence that the crap you guys pull have been done in 1 entire game of football outside of madden. Its always and excuse as to why its legit because there is a counter or whatnot. Its lame and ruins what those devs work so hard for even after hearing how displeased we are with the overall product and most of that is due to you group of people.

Now everyone online has the mentality of "screw it, if you cant beat them, join them", that ish aint right and I dont understand how yall get a way with it and feel you guys have any type of skill by manipulating the game in ways players dont even react like in real life.

But I get it, ITS JUST A GAME RIGHT?

If that was the case, every sport would be a boring mess and sports and sport games wouldnt even exist.

Think about that for a second, look at who you guys are really hurting...

Competition madden was a big thing in the past, and the cheats and crap that came along with it and allowed by EA, is what dwindled what was left of some good avg players who just wanted to see where they stood amongst some of the worlds greatest madden fans. But no, you guys had to ruin it for greed but then have the audacity to talk crap about people to get ahead in other aspects of life whether it be for cash, social means, or just to be spiteful.

Give yourselves a pat on the back fellas, its cool to degrade the integrity of a sport in video game form due to the fact its virtual, but be the 1st in line crying and complaining when their favorite team or whatever gets cheated out of whatever it is their involved in.

If you cant play people FOOTBALL vs FOOTBALL, then whats the point of being a fan of the sport or playing it online anyway?

But thats right, most of you cant even compete or stand to lose against someone who plays the game as they see it on Sunday, most of the time, those cheats and stuff arent even necessary to use, you just do it because you can.

What kind of person are you really, when you find it fun to cheat unsuspecting people at a game and make them trade it in and miss out on a whole year of football gaming like they intended on?

# 50 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by x Adjust x


	I'm adjust from the other site, and I'm coming to set the record straight. I'm a tournament players so of course I play different than you guys. I play to win, as do everyone else I play with. Everyone spends $60 so they should be able to use the game how ever they want, I find the tournament competition more exciting than the sim play. But that's another story. I find glitches when I first get the game which is 2-3 weeks early, and I send them to EA. I don't keep them, I don't hide them, and I don't use them to gain. I post videos, show how to use it, and tell everyone what to do. Do you blame me for finding the faults in the game, or the developers for allowing it, or the beta testers for not finding them? You can think of me as an extended beta tester, I find things before the game is out so people like you can have a seamless online experience. So go check my youtube channel, and see how many things i've saved you guys from.

When you go looking for dirt, you get dirty. Thats like me finding out your bank account info and knowing how to hack into your account and telling everyone else how to do the same to others.

Is it my fault you got ripped off at the most, you get half of your money back from this scam?

Thats how I feel when I go to trade my game in after people decide to spread garbage around the internet knowing what people are going to do with it once its released.

But I guess its cool to open pandora's box every year just because!

Another thing, please explain to everyone whats the difference between, SIM and Competition players, since you are the ANIT-Cheat for madden, or do you use these same tactics when you compete?

The OS world wants to know how is it any different from the way we are playing now!

# 51 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzz


	See once again you want us to conform to you, and threaten with violence yet again. It's people like you that breed people like Hitler and set them out into the world[No Offense to the jews, and people that suffered because of him]

When did I threaten someone on here?

We conformed to you guys for the longest, we stayed our ground as long as we could. And then you compare me to Hitler when you guys are the ones killing YOUR OWN COMPETITION by coming up with these cheats and gimmicks that dont resemble one iota of football!

But keep ignoring what this is all about and trying to blame everything on me, the ball is in your court! You came at me I replied and the best you can do is call me Hitler and say I threatened someone on here? LOL

Pure gold, your comebacks are just as weak as the gamplay you guys come up with!

The fact is that most of this issues wouldnt be that severe to use if it wasnt for the way you guys go about playing this game. I sure as heck wouldnt be griping about most of the stuff I gripe about except for features to add to the game that should be there. Ask anyone here or any site I post on, these issues dont arise like this until you guys exploit them to your advantage!

What now?

# 52 WFColonel56 @ 05/02/12 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	When you go looking for dirt, you get dirty. Thats like me finding out your bank account info and knowing how to hack into your account and telling everyone else how to do the same to others. Is it my fault you got ripped off at the most, you get half of your money back from this scam? Thats how I feel when I go to trade my game in after people decide to spread garbage around the internet knowing what people are going to do with it once its released. But I guess its cool to open pandora's box every year just because!

He sends the stuff he finds to EA.....After that its out of his hands. If he found it that quick how long do you think it would be before another person who isnt as compassionate finds it and uses it for personal gain? After its sent to EA its up to them to fix it, if they dont then you cant fault anybody but them. They were notified and didnt fix the issue

Just like when EA was notified about curl flat zones not playing correctly WEEK 1 and they didnt fix it, not even in the patch

Just like when they were notified that curl routes are 100% completions vs man coverage WEEK 1 and they did nothing, not even in the patch

Just like when people on here talk about rush angles and ETC....Its not the players fault if EA is notified of the issue and nothing gets done.
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And smoke I would gladly debate you or anybody else on any aspect of madden that you want to talk about seeing as I have played football for the last 11 years of my life, not only that I own over 100 nfl,ncaa,highschool playbooks that I read on a regular basis, visit coachhuey.com on a monthly basis, read smartfootball.com and coachhoover.com, blizology, and many other fb blogs on regular basis to improve my knowledge about football and to improve my madden game.

nanos, overloads, protections,route combos, money plays, plays that work that from an x's and o's aspect shouldnt work and the reasoning behind it......what ya wanna talk about. I can talk about it ALL INTELLIGENTLY

And I can also talk about the relationship between X's and O's in regards to the madden franchise seeing how I have owned every madden (except for 05) since madden 03. There is literally no topic that I am not OVERLY qualified to cover.

its also quite ironic that you say ppl from TGL cant adjust when YOU groan and moan from a blitz that clearly sends 4 defenders against 3 blockers. What do you think is going to happen when the offense sends 5 receivers in route?

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If you got such an issue with what is posted on TGL then you are more than welcome to not come back..

But its quite ironic that you come to TGL to get tips and insight and then badmouth TGL to another forum.

# 53 sgibs7 @ 05/02/12 07:32 PM

my man colonel - how ya been man?

# 54 WFColonel56 @ 05/02/12 07:34 PM

good gibs, which we could have met on here under better terms

just a lil bit heated right now lol

# 55 sgibs7 @ 05/02/12 07:37 PM

haha i can see that - im trying to catch up with whats going on in this thread

# 56 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WFColonel56


	He sends the stuff he finds to EA.....After that its out of his hands. If he found it that quick how long do you think it would be before another person who isnt as compassionate finds it and uses it for personal gain? After its sent to EA its up to them to fix it, if they dont then you cant fault anybody but them. They were notified and didnt fix the issue Just like when EA was notified about curl flat zones not playing correctly WEEK 1 and they didnt fix it, not even in the patch Just like when they were notified that curl routes are 100% completions vs man coverage WEEK 1 and they did nothing, not even in the patch Just like when people on here talk about rush angles and ETC....Its not the players fault if EA is notified of the issue and nothing gets done. ======================= ====================== ======================== ========================= And smoke I would gladly debate you or anybody else on any aspect of madden that you want to talk about seeing as I have played football for the last 11 years of my life, not only that I own over 100 nfl,ncaa,highschool playbooks that I read on a regular basis, visit coachhuey.com on a monthly basis, read smartfootball.com and coachhoover.com, blizology, and many other fb blogs on regular basis to improve my knowledge about football and to improve my madden game. nanos, overloads, protections,route combos, money plays, plays that work that from an x's and o's aspect shouldnt work and the reasoning behind it......what ya wanna talk about. I can talk about it ALL INTELLIGENTLY And I can also talk about the relationship between X's and O's in regards to the madden franchise seeing how I have owned every madden (except for 05) since madden 03. There is literally no topic that I am not OVERLY qualified to cover. its also quite ironic that you say ppl from TGL cant adjust when YOU groan and moan from a blitz that clearly sends 4 defenders against 3 blockers. What do you think is going to happen when the offense sends 5 receivers in route? ========= =============== ======== If you got such an issue with what is posted on TGL then you are more than welcome to not come back.. But its quite ironic that you come to TGL to get tips and insight and then badmouth TGL to another forum.

First off, I have played football for well over 11 years, I am in the huddle and their when we have drawn up play to works as the coaches seen fit. There is no way on earth you can run "1 defensive play" the entire game and dominate with no regards to the personnel thats being thrown at you!

Thats the issue with a 4 man rush or a 3 man rush as it nets the same gimmicky results time after time.

Secondly I bad mouths TGL even when I am there so dont come act like im some 2 faced poster and dont know what im doing or talking about.

3rd, im glad the bunch of you are here and backing each other up to your tasteless gameplay that most here dont even bother with playing online!

Im real, we all see the gimmicks you guys use and exploit the same route and plays to your advantage and then act like its supposed to be accepted. Its not and because EA never responded or did anything when you guys sent them these issues just solidifies the fact that it might just be a losing battle.

You guys have a bunch of followers and many are following because they are tired of losing to guys like you online. If you cared soo much about X's and O's or this game, then I would have never posted anything in regards to glitches I have found in the game even if EA decided not to patch it up.

Why did you feel to let the cat out of the bag?

Were you mad because you figured they'd ignored you so you go and mock them by telling everyone "hey look here these are the glitches and MONEY plays I stumbled upon"?

I mean keep it real, we have been fighting this battle for over a decade man and have been progressing in baby steps only to have that progression stripped from us because you mad or someone was to weak at playing defense so they decided to cheat instead and not give a damn.

Whatever the reason may be, its killing the game, but none of you guys go over to the SF or Tekken tournaments and pull those stunts. Know why? You butt would be out of every competition once people found out thats how you get down.

But its just cool to do for a game like madden or whatnot right?

I have no respect for anyone who stands by cheating or glitching people especially when you cant even stand it being done in the real life sport.

So if you wanna go toe to toe with me on whats wrong or right with this game, then bring it!

# 57 roadman @ 05/02/12 07:48 PM

Which isn't really on topic recently.

This is like deju vu a few years.

Same websites, different year.

Let's just let it go as I'm sure all of us have one thing in common, having Madden as realistic as you see on Sunday.

If that isn't the goal, then I don't know what to say.

# 58 ClevelandFan @ 05/02/12 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	3rd, im glad the bunch of you are here and backing each other up to your tasteless gameplay that most here dont even bother with playing online!

For the record, I haven't played Madden in 5 years, and I didn't play it like tourney players do.

But you're still a ****** and shouldn't give a **** how people play the game.

# 59 WFColonel56 @ 05/02/12 07:52 PM

smoke make a new thread with your post and I will gladly reply

# 60 Smoke6 @ 05/02/12 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandFan


	For the record, I haven't played Madden in 5 years, and I didn't play it like tourney players do. But you're still a **** and shouldn't give a ** how people play the game.

Please elaborate for me as to my main features of playing madden are ONLINE PLAY and ONLINE FRANCHISE.

If you dont care about how people play in any of the above modes, then this debate would be non existent and every complaint thread would be null and void due to the fact that we just dont care about how anyone should play the game.

You made no sense whatsoever!

And WF, no need to messy up the boards, I just dont understand how one with soo much knowledge of the sport could condone this type of gameplay that helps degrade the game even more than it already is.

Running animations,

Passing trajectories,

blocking,

BLitzes and schemes,

In online play, all these issues boil down to shady gameplay being the factor that opens up the eyes of players like me and see the flaw right then and there as its being abused.

You guys keep thinking we dont know an overload blitz from a nano being set up. But when you slowly replay what just happened, its clear you are just exploiting the AI until your opponent catches on.

For example the Shake glitch, you may know how to effectively counter such garbage, but the avg "i just got home from work, shut up woman get my beer" joe, will basically just give up playing and coming to a site like this ranting or just not caring to play anymore. But its still a glitch and a pathetic one at that.

But show me a team, that sways its LB core back and forth and gets a speed burst the moment the ball is hiked when the personnel is clearly out matched from Olinemen to the 1 NT and LBs you have rushing in. LBs stunt at the line, but this shake is no stunt at all.

How about the B-lines with the safety right thru the LOS when the ball is snapped by a manual controlled player?

There really is no slide protection on run plays in madden to counter that, you just have to try and time the man coming thru or audible to a pass in which he will know is coming, but either way, for most of us here, its lose lose.

But lets not ingore the main question I posed earlier.

Elaborate on whats the difference in your guys way of playing from that of a SIM players way of playing. Or maybe you guys should lobby for an XFL version of football so you can do as you please as the masses already know what to expect and cant complain about it at all.

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