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Kotaku's Owen Good has posted an article discussing the ongoing NBA 2K12 online issues with Jeff Thomas, the director of development at Visual Concepts.

MrPurple0 gets a shoutout, as well.

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Approaching Kotaku to talk about the online problems, the key thing Thomas wanted to get off his chest was that the game's development team and community managers were not, as MrPurple0 alleged, ignoring the customer, sitting in a little room counting money and doing nothing.

"We're not ignoring this," he says firmly. "We are listening. We are reaching out. We've had guys on the team send [direct messages] to people asking 'Hey, can you tell me what you saw there.' We want to know of all these problems and make sure this is not something that tarnishes our game."

"We love My Crew," Thomas said. "But it's one of the more complicated features to put online. If we wanted to have a game this year, we needed to keep the feature set tight and small. When you get involved with Crews, there's a whole thing with data exchanging that gets involved."

My Crew was the online experience in NBA 2K11 where gamers took their created player from the "My Player" career mode, formed up teams and, in an environment supporting 10-player multiplayer, ran some ball. It was like having a regular rec league game, except online (and with guys who had mad skills).

Though Thomas cannot promise anything, he also sincerely did not rule out My Crew's return in future editions, attributing its absence in NBA 2K12 solely to the new codebase.

Read the entire article, right here.

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# 1 rangerrick012 @ 10/28/11 08:11 PM
They should have been more up front about this from the get go, and let people know that there were changes to the online infrastructure that meant losing a lot of features, such as Crew and Sliders for OA I guess. 2K tried to have their cake and eat it too, and it might end up biting them judging by how p.o'ed the customer base is now.
 
# 2 Canquain @ 10/28/11 08:41 PM
It's time to make that DLC free 2K.
 
# 3 IV THA UNITY @ 10/28/11 09:32 PM
I don't believe one word of what they say because the issues are the same. If they completely re wrote code there would be different issues all together. They also stated that they re wrote code last year. As a consumer I only see end results, and from what I saw and seeing, the same issues are there.
 
# 4 coolcras7 @ 10/28/11 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerrick012
They should have been more up front about this from the get go, and let people know that there were changes to the online infrastructure that meant losing a lot of features, such as Crew and Sliders for OA I guess. 2K tried to have their cake and eat it too, and it might end up biting them judging by how p.o'ed the customer base is now.
How is that, they tried to so something in a year that should have taken at lease 2 then they give us a patch 9 days later, yeah 2k owes us, some of you need to grow up, every modern game offers DLC and somehow 2k is trying to screw us.
 
# 5 IV THA UNITY @ 10/28/11 09:40 PM
I would definitely like to see a postmortem report on how they continue to develop this game year after year and not fix the online issues. I mean the gameplay is fine, stop re inventing it and polish it and reallly fix the online. Then go back to adding features once the game actually works online as intended.

For me I look at it this way, if the gameplay is solid why not fix the one issue thats been bogging you down for years, instead of adding an existing element like online association when the online portion doesn't even work? This is not rocket science, maybe they need dedi servers. At least they to my knowledge I would think they would be better equipped to solve issues that arise quicker than having to wait 2 - 6 months to get the game somewhat playable online. I really want to play the game online but its been collecting dust for about two weeks now due to online being a wash.
 
# 6 IV THA UNITY @ 10/28/11 09:43 PM
And when I say the issues are the same, the first week of launch in order to get a team-up game I had to change my region to japan, just like I had to do for crew in 2k11, and wallah I had no problems finding team-up games. That is a bit too similar to 2k11 in terms of how their so called rewritten code works.
 
# 7 jbthegreat @ 10/28/11 10:35 PM
I haven't been able to play one online game yet it always disconnects and I'm playing on the pc
 
# 8 truintellectplaya @ 10/28/11 10:56 PM
Meh, don't watch youtube videos and don't care about people whining about online because I have never had a problem and I simply think to go online first day before you even learn the game just shows how many people just abuse exploits in games anyway. So, whatever hardcore gamers are not in love with online and that is just a fact, word to the CZAR
 
# 9 TUSS11 @ 10/28/11 10:58 PM
I just don't like the fact that they weren't upfront about the whole issue, and are only now starting to speak because of the customer backlash.

I would have been more tolerant about it if they came out early in the development process and told us how they were re-coding the online component of the game. But remaining tight-lipped until you're forced to respond to the inevitable backlash is a bit dishonest.
 
# 10 SpartanBaller @ 10/29/11 01:36 AM
Every single 2k game has laggy online play when released. I stopped buying 2k baseball years ago because the game was unplayable online. NBA 2k usually gets fixed eventually but it is unacceptable for these online issues year after year.
 
# 11 Rawdeal28 @ 10/29/11 02:54 AM
thank goodness i dont play online lol.
 
# 12 The Bad Man @ 10/29/11 03:44 AM
i dont play online because of the fact that 2k online is a mess. if charles barkley still wont be in the game next year in 2k13, and online is STILL a big problem for 2k, then probably i will stop buying nba 2k.
 
# 13 MeloNYK7 @ 10/29/11 04:59 AM
I feel like I paid $75 for a beta, which MIGHT become a retail game after the up coming patch. N I'm probably still gonna get it launch day next year(sad) that's how much of a die hard 2k fan I am. But its starting to get old, 65 plus for a BETA every year? SMH...
 
# 14 NYdreams @ 10/29/11 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by truintellectplaya
Meh, don't watch youtube videos and don't care about people whining about online because I have never had a problem and I simply think to go online first day before you even learn the game just shows how many people just abuse exploits in games anyway. So, whatever hardcore gamers are not in love with online and that is just a fact, word to the CZAR
So, whatever hardcore gamers are not in love with online and that is just a fact, word to the CZAR <<< its ignorant ppl like this that might be working at 2k and dont even bother to fix online... how can you consider yourself a hardcore gamer when all you do is play the cpu all the day ? and how the hell does a game lag offline lmaooo this game is a joke seriously and i love 2k and understand that every game needs a patch because no game is perfect but this game has too much problems .. 2k11 wasnt this bad and they had crew.. this game is a big step backwards and funny thing is they never said nothing about crew not being in the game.. ronnie said we would get an online insight but that never dropped and i see why lol.. i thought them taking crew off would make online play better but i lied to myself this game is worse.. you cant even get a team up game going without lag... you cant even play with legends online instead you have to buy for the dumb reason of "If we put Legends teams into Quick Match, it would be a nightmare for anybody who just wanted to play with their favorite team" which is dumb anyway because of the 90 percent of people that use the MIAMI HEAT online ... there are no sliders so i cant help it when people go crazy from the 3 all game long ... and theres not even a blacktop smh i will not be buying the DLC because of all that minus the cell shade should be free ... i just hope 2k doesnt think about slacking off online-wise because there is no competition since EA slandered themselves with ELITE 11 smh
 
# 15 MeloNYK7 @ 10/29/11 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NYdreams
So, whatever hardcore gamers are not in love with online and that is just a fact, word to the CZAR <<< its ignorant ppl like this that might be working at 2k and dont even bother to fix online... how can you consider yourself a hardcore gamer when all you do is play the cpu all the day ? and how the hell does a game lag offline lmaooo this game is a joke seriously and i love 2k and understand that every game needs a patch because no game is perfect but this game has too much problems .. 2k11 wasnt this bad and they had crew.. this game is a big step backwards and funny thing is they never said nothing about crew not being in the game.. ronnie said we would get an online insight but that never dropped and i see why lol.. i thought them taking crew off would make online play better but i lied to myself this game is worse.. you cant even get a team up game going without lag... you cant even play with legends online instead you have to buy for the dumb reason of "If we put Legends teams into Quick Match, it would be a nightmare for anybody who just wanted to play with their favorite team" which is dumb anyway because of the 90 percent of people that use the MIAMI HEAT online ... there are no sliders so i cant help it when people go crazy from the 3 all game long ... and theres not even a blacktop smh i will not be buying the DLC because of all that minus the cell shade should be free ... i just hope 2k doesnt think about slacking off online-wise because there is no competition since EA slandered themselves with ELITE 11 smh
This man speaks the truth... I'm getting tired of all these offline players who play the CPU all day with adjusted sliders (cheese) and make smart remarks when the online base is not happy with the BS that is going on
 
# 16 jerseyballer7 @ 10/29/11 08:29 AM
Well I can't feel sorry for them not one bit. They knew better or should of known better but decided to go with it. I guess maybe that's what happens when there's no other competition.
 
# 17 BigBlue @ 10/29/11 08:40 AM
Yes, they never came up with an excuse for no online sliders. Why, 2k?

BigBlue
 
# 18 MVP23 @ 10/29/11 09:09 AM
Gotta see too believe it. Until then 2k
 
# 19 BRxSKINSx @ 10/29/11 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MeloNYK7
I feel like I paid $75 for a beta, which MIGHT become a retail game after the up coming patch. N I'm probably still gonna get it launch day next year(sad) that's how much of a die hard 2k fan I am. But its starting to get old, 65 plus for a BETA every year? SMH...
Yea, I feel the same way.... Why do I continue to do this every year....?
 
# 20 videobastard @ 10/29/11 09:25 AM
Its hard to believe that they could not implement legends online separate from quick match. Its obvious you would not mix all the teams together for ranked matches.

The private vs could of had a option to open up the legends rosters to play vs matches with your friends.
 

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