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# 1 Eski33 @ 06/27/11 08:12 PM
I love the NHL series but I hope that they upgrade the visuals at some point. Still using the visuals from NHL 08....Outside of that the game is awesome...
 
# 2 bwiggy33 @ 06/27/11 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Eski33
I love the NHL series but I hope that they upgrade the visuals at some point. Still using the visuals from NHL 08....Outside of that the game is awesome...
In all honesty though this was one of the best looking games when NHL 07 was released. They set the bar extremely high and I'm not sure if they can be improved upon much more. I'm not a game developer though so I wouldn't know if much more can be done. I just think that there is only so much you can do visually and they reached that a long time ago as far as graphics. Therefore the game just doesn't look as fresh as if they were to steadily increase the visuals each release. Just my thoughts on it. To me it's one of the best looking sports games there is on the market.
 
# 3 misterbroom12 @ 06/28/11 12:13 AM
Can't wait until this weekend when the Lightning can't match other teams offers for Stamkos and he goes elsewhere. EA are going to have to try and get an action shot of him in a jersey he's yet to play in in an actual game.
 
# 4 bradleyhutchison @ 06/28/11 10:13 AM
The look of those new jerseys is actually based on the Toronto Maple Leafs.
 
# 5 UOK @ 06/28/11 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bradleyhutchison
The look of those new jerseys is actually based on the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The conference revealing the jerseys shows they look almost exactly like the leafs. It's kind of disappointing.

But makes it easier to edit the jersey should he leave tampa.
 
# 6 SuperKyle @ 06/28/11 11:13 AM
Ok, hockey buffs around the league. Listen up: Stamkos isn't leaving the Lightning. There are a multitude of reasons, and I'll buzz through some of them:

He's been a huge part of the marketing campaign since he was drafted... He's not a me-first egomaniac like you see in other sports (namely, NBA)... The Lightning are on the rise, as evidenced by this year's playoff run. Why would he leave a talented and (mostly) young team?... He's gonna get paid. He might have to take a million or two less per year to make a cap-friendly deal, but he's still getting paid... He's never had anything bad to say about the Bolts or management or ownership, and the steadying hand of Steve Yzerman certainly helps... He's got Martin St. Louis feeding him one-timers all day.

So while it's nice to dream about Stammer on other teams, it's just not gonna happen. Please resume bickering over whether he should be on the cover or not.
 
# 7 Mikey88 @ 06/28/11 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bradleyhutchison
The look of those new jerseys is actually based on the Toronto Maple Leafs.
you mean like this? lol
I like the Tbay jersey but the problem is, its kinda already been done lol
 
# 8 Mikey88 @ 06/28/11 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperKyle
Ok, hockey buffs around the league. Listen up: Stamkos isn't leaving the Lightning. There are a multitude of reasons, and I'll buzz through some of them:

He's been a huge part of the marketing campaign since he was drafted... He's not a me-first egomaniac like you see in other sports (namely, NBA)... The Lightning are on the rise, as evidenced by this year's playoff run. Why would he leave a talented and (mostly) young team?... He's gonna get paid. He might have to take a million or two less per year to make a cap-friendly deal, but he's still getting paid... He's never had anything bad to say about the Bolts or management or ownership, and the steadying hand of Steve Yzerman certainly helps... He's got Martin St. Louis feeding him one-timers all day.

So while it's nice to dream about Stammer on other teams, it's just not gonna happen. Please resume bickering over whether he should be on the cover or not.
Oh you mean like Mike Richards and Jeff Carter who were the core franchise players of the Flyers? What happened to those 2 guys again? oh yeah they got TRADED lol
 
# 9 SuperKyle @ 06/28/11 03:10 PM
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Oh you mean like Mike Richards and Jeff Carter who were the core franchise players of the Flyers? What happened to those 2 guys again? oh yeah they got TRADED lol
That's the Flyers' way of doing things. I'm quite confident that Vinik and Yzerman operate differently.
Plus, Brad Richards might be coming back
 
# 10 bwiggy33 @ 06/28/11 04:34 PM
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i admit that it is a fun game adding things the last couple years like full contact with goalies is going to make this game so much more interesting during goal reviews and taking goals away because of interference or the net cam off it mournings before the puck went in. they are getting closer to a sim game but yes there is but they really lack in getting players real faces in the game to many are off or not even done same goes for the goalie masks pop your nhl 07 back in then pop in nhl 11 there the same masks every yr if they can not get the real ones then give us a tool to create our own or the ability to import images to make them.

and to me generic stadiums the need to render new ones and get the jumbotrons like the real ones all those stadiums look the same same color same ice scratch look.

i will buy the game like i do every year that render looks awesome
I actually didn't hit the point I was trying to. I think visually the players look really good (equipment, body structure etc). The faces are somewhat well done but there are not nearly enough cyberfaces done on each of the teams. It's pretty pathetic how bad their selection is. The arenas also look like garbage. I was just strictly talking the players themselves look pretty good. Take a look at how bad 2k's goalies look compared to EA's. It is like night and day. The EA players actually look real. Other than the players the arenas and cyberfaces have to be redone completely because they are very generic.

I really hope this game is good because the gameplay needs a lot of tuning to make it fun again. It was fun for the first couple of years just because of the analog controls alone, but that point has passed and they need to add in some realistic gameplay.
 
# 11 bwiggy33 @ 06/28/11 10:09 PM
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IMO with maybe the exception of The Show, it's still the best looking sports title visually. Really when you're stuck with 512 megs of ram max, and pushing for 60fps with how fast hockey is. I'm not sure why people expect much more. The game is still gorgeous imo.

It's not like they're going to reinvent the visual style every year. Nor should they.
Perfectly stated. If I'm not mistaken they slowly introduced 60 FPS in NHL 08 and completely had it in NHL 09. Those games were several years ago so they have had the visuals down IMO since day one because NHL 07 was absolutely beautiful compared to any other game on the market at the time.
 
# 12 ether @ 06/28/11 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by misterbroom12
Can't wait until this weekend when the Lightning can't match other teams offers for Stamkos
They have over $21m in cap space, pretty sure they can match any offer. Rumor on the web now has him re-signing before the weekend, anyway.
 
# 13 ericromain @ 06/28/11 10:52 PM
I hate to nitpick, but I thought stamkos wears the Bauer 4500 helmet? The cover athlete doesn't get his authentic equipment?
 
# 14 bwiggy33 @ 06/28/11 10:54 PM
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They have over $21m in cap space, pretty sure they can match any offer. Rumor on the web now has him re-signing before the weekend, anyway.
Ya they can most likely match any offer, but you have to remember that the owner makes the call on how much he wants to spend. He doesn't have to use any of that 21 mill if he doesn't want to, just enough to be over league minimum which I'm pretty sure they are. He's the one paying the bills. As an owner you really have to weigh the positives and negatives and it's tough in a non traditional hockey city. Not to offend any Tampa fans but they don't have a huge fan base. This means the owner has to figure out if he will make money by signing Stamkos, or lose money because the fan base isn't all that big. I mean if Tampa has a losing season next year I doubt that they will fill 3/4 of the building each game no matter if they have Stamkos or not. Tampa fans want to watch a winning team, not just Stamkos. If it were Stamkos and a struggling team playing in Toronto they would sell out or come close to it. On another note I'm pretty sure ticket prices aren't all that high either so they pretty much need 3/4-sellout in order to make money. There are Tampa fans on this forum though so maybe they can add in a little insight. I'm just going off knowledge that I have heard.

It's a tough call as an owner becuause you get a bad rep from not signing superstars. Just look at Peter Pocklington when he chose to trade Gretzky instead of resigning him. In all honesty he made the right choice, but the fans don't always understand the business aspect.

All in all I do believe that they will sign Stamkos. I believe the main reason is because Steve Yzerman is the GM. I think if someone not as popular or as decorated as Stevy Y was GM we could see Stamkos signing with someone else. Yzerman has done an incredible job in just one year at TB.
 
# 15 bradleyhutchison @ 06/29/11 10:33 AM
An offer sheet may actually be a good thing for Tampa, since all they would have to do is match. It would help them out if negotiations with Stamkos are going slowly. They just match the offer and have their player.

It would be tricky, however, if a team offered Stamkos a one year deal for max salary. Then, even if Tampa matches, Stamkos becomes a UFA at the end of next season.
 
# 16 WSU151 @ 06/29/11 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bwiggy33
Ya they can most likely match any offer, but you have to remember that the owner makes the call on how much he wants to spend. He doesn't have to use any of that 21 mill if he doesn't want to, just enough to be over league minimum which I'm pretty sure they are. He's the one paying the bills. As an owner you really have to weigh the positives and negatives and it's tough in a non traditional hockey city. Not to offend any Tampa fans but they don't have a huge fan base. This means the owner has to figure out if he will make money by signing Stamkos, or lose money because the fan base isn't all that big. I mean if Tampa has a losing season next year I doubt that they will fill 3/4 of the building each game no matter if they have Stamkos or not. Tampa fans want to watch a winning team, not just Stamkos. If it were Stamkos and a struggling team playing in Toronto they would sell out or come close to it. On another note I'm pretty sure ticket prices aren't all that high either so they pretty much need 3/4-sellout in order to make money. There are Tampa fans on this forum though so maybe they can add in a little insight. I'm just going off knowledge that I have heard.
I do believe the minimum is 48.4 mil, so the Lightning aren't quite above the floor. Here's the salary cap breakdown as of today for the Lightning:

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Te...ary_cap_thou=3

Here's the figures for attendance (you can scroll thru the last 10 years to better determine Tampa's fan base).

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

Here's average ticket price since 1994, with the Lightning on the lower side of prices compared to the league. With that said, it doesn't mean they're having trouble making money, as revenue from other sources could make up for low ticket prices:

http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...95/119-2008-09
 
# 17 bwiggy33 @ 06/29/11 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WSU151
I do believe the minimum is 48.4 mil, so the Lightning aren't quite above the floor. Here's the salary cap breakdown as of today for the Lightning:

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Te...ary_cap_thou=3

Here's the figures for attendance (you can scroll thru the last 10 years to better determine Tampa's fan base).

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

Here's average ticket price since 1994, with the Lightning on the lower side of prices compared to the league. With that said, it doesn't mean they're having trouble making money, as revenue from other sources could make up for low ticket prices:

http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/inde...95/119-2008-09
Thank you for those figures. I was pretty much correct on most of the stuff I said then. I'm actually really surprised on how well they do with attendance. I consider their 87% pretty darn good. It's better than quite a few other teams. You bring up a good point with the money from outside sources. I would actually love to see what they get for outside money. Tampa must make some decent money because if they were losing money then I think the owner would have tried to sell the team by now.
 

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