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Given the departures of several key leaders on the team, should there be some worry about Madden's future as a series? Vote above you on the forums and to your right on the frontpage.

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# 1 mestevo @ 06/17/11 01:16 PM
Strangely slanted for an OS poll, found myself re-reading the options for a 'No, I look forward to what the future brings'.
 
# 2 Champion8877 @ 06/17/11 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mestevo
Strangely slanted for an OS poll, found myself re-reading the options for a 'No, I look forward to what the future brings'.
i agree, although i do think its going in a bad direction, and has been for the last few years, there should atleast be a positive option on the poll. all the choices are negative and close to the same thing.
 
# 3 DaSmerg @ 06/17/11 01:55 PM
Right now, it doesn't seem bad for Madden. It just seems that new blood is coming in (for what, like the 3rd or 4th time now for us year 1'ers) to helm the project team.

No need to f33r change here folks. It's happened a couple of times before already.
 
# 4 mirrored32 @ 06/17/11 01:58 PM
We can only speculate what the leaving of Phil means. Only time will show in the product of Madden what it means.

It was evident to me that Josh Looman had his hand in this Madden's features. I feel this Madden 12 is the first in many years that feels 'right' on track to me.

So let time and the product speak for us in what this all means.

It could mean 'a change in direction' or it could mean 'nothing changes'.

But really the truth is in the product.

do you like the direction of Madden 12? do you think that so far the team at Madden and EA/Tiburon did a good job of features in Madden 12 so far? (i don't mean were they implemented well, do they excite you)

let that drive your love of Madden.

In all honesty I appreciate Madden 12 for what it is and it is something I haven't seen in quite a few years. So with that I can only say the product speaks. Madden 13 will truly show what this all means.
 
# 5 jfsolo @ 06/17/11 01:59 PM
Yeah, I can't seem to find the "No, I think Cam, Josh, Mike, Donny, and AJ will keep things going in the right direction" answer.
 
# 6 Bull_Dozer @ 06/17/11 02:03 PM
Fresh blood, new ideas, and alternate perspectives are a good thing. The future of Madden is bright.
 
# 7 Bumble14 @ 06/17/11 02:05 PM
Should definitely be a straight "No, not worried at all" option here :-)
 
# 8 JMUfootball @ 06/17/11 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquorLogic
Expect Madden 13 to take a major leap. All that " only so much can be done in one cycle " is just an excuse. It's been done in other games, it can be done it Madden.
Bingo. Firings not only help bring in new people, but help enhance what is "possible" for continuing employees.

For years and years throughout the 2000's Madden was a bloated cash cow because it was "THE" game to own for 15-21 year olds. The team knew they could add minor changes each year (mostly incredibly shallow, casual features like "Fight for the fumble"), subtract some features to be reintroduced later, update the rosters and still match or exceed the previous year's sales.

Currently, two big things are happening: a general shift away from consoles with the rise in app gaming, and the overall improvement of other console sports games.

For those still primarily on consoles, FIFA has now become "the" game to own for multiplayer with friends. Games like NBA 2k11 show what is possible if the developer team actually cares about the gamer experience, and gamers who also buy Madden have started to realize that the Madden series is about 5 years behind other sports games.

Time for a change - Madden has nowhere to go but up, because it's pretty low right now. The updates and attention to Franchise Mode are an incredibly welcome addition to '12. Let's hope the trend of continuing to add to the depth and quality of the game is something we see evident even moreso in Madden '13.
 
# 9 realone504 @ 06/17/11 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NDIrish156
give 2k their gaming rights back...id MUCH rather play 2k than madden
well go play 2k thin were talkin about madden not 2k
 
# 10 sonn @ 06/17/11 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NDIrish156
give 2k their gaming rights back...id MUCH rather play 2k than madden
Good for you.
 
# 11 gbombbay @ 06/17/11 02:46 PM
Not all change is good change...but in this case it seemed like most were disappointed in the direction of the franchise anyway "me included" since it was introduced for the next generation. So I don't see how this could be a bad thing. I guess we will all have to take a wait and see approach.
 
# 12 coogrfan @ 06/17/11 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumble14
Should definitely be a straight "No, not worried at all" option here :-)

The fact that such an option doesn't exist makes this poll completely useless.
 
# 13 Boilerbuzz @ 06/17/11 03:20 PM
It's good to see the sensible nature of the results. There really is no telling what can happen. I see this differently that most because I think about it from a technical standpoint. I couldn't really care less about losing talking heads. What I worry about is the dev talent that was lost. The senior engineers that had a HUGE part in their past success and the foundation they laid to get Tiburon to where it is today. We're talking Madden here. There was no creative genius needed. Losing senior tech guys WILL have an impact. Let's not get it twisted. But, EA has shown that they are capable of identifying and hiring good people. We will see if there are any available that would want to work there. I know for a fact that they are looking for smart and experienced engineers right now and they seem willing to pay top dollar. So, is that a sign of desperation? Maybe. So, we don't know what will happen. This is a critical time for them.

On the other hand, it WAS time for a change. I will be honest and say that I think the former leadership was terrible. They may be good leaders and very creative. But they didn't know sh*t about football. On the current gen of consoles, the game of football took a marked step backwards. It was clear that football was view in a way that went no further than casual. And in many ways, that was intentional. That NFL contract screamed for the apparent need to grow the user base. So, being more casual, in theory, was supposed to do that. Too bad it alienated guys that loved the sport for itself - like me - to the point where trust has been lost. So, yeah, I admit that when I heard of the departures, my first reactions, "Sweet. Now maybe they can turn this thing around." So, with that, we will see. I have no idea if they will look to replace these guys with people that are more into the sport or just more disciples of upper management. With EA, frankly, it's 50/50.

Madden 12 on paper looks promising. Technically, based on what I saw from E3, some of that hope was diluted. I would like to think that the vision will be right going forward. I have faith that execution will catch up.
 
# 14 elprez98 @ 06/17/11 03:35 PM
The bottom line is that money talks. The 18% decline in sales begs for a change. They've seen the impact that presentation can have in sales (see NBA 2k11) and are trying to find a winning mix. I don't know where the series goes from here, but I'd be happy when there is a pro American football game on the market that I can get into again. Madden has been stale for a long time now.

The games sales are just finally catching up with the innovation.
 
# 15 roadman @ 06/17/11 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LiquorLogic
It looks to me as if Cam is bringing his own people to work on Madden.
Well, Roy Harvey is from NCAA, not one of his own from NCAA or FIFA.

Time will tell how this all plays out.
 
# 16 DirtyJerz32 @ 06/17/11 04:10 PM
Can we get a option to have "NO" the game looks good at this point. It took how long to get to this point. Let's not freak out because people are leaving.

Sometimes we're so quick to jump the gun and say something is going to be worse because a change is happening.

FRANKY SAYS RELAX!!!
 
# 17 jeremym480 @ 06/17/11 04:21 PM
Not worried very much at all. I'm confident that M13 will go on just as if they were there and us gamers will never even notice a huge difference.
 
# 18 mestevo @ 06/17/11 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elprez98
The bottom line is that money talks. The 18% decline in sales begs for a change. They've seen the impact that presentation can have in sales (see NBA 2k11) and are trying to find a winning mix. I don't know where the series goes from here, but I'd be happy when there is a pro American football game on the market that I can get into again. Madden has been stale for a long time now.

The games sales are just finally catching up with the innovation.
The 18% sales decline can almost entirely be attributed to the transition between console generations and without that context was just a sexy headline for people to take a shot at Madden/EA.
 
# 19 turftickler @ 06/17/11 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mestevo
Strangely slanted for an OS poll, found myself re-reading the options for a 'No, I look forward to what the future brings'.
So, you want to keep going way of arcade? I'm confused, because the direction Madden 12 has gone is a great new direction, not bad.
 
# 20 mestevo @ 06/17/11 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by turftickler
So, you want to keep going way of arcade? I'm confused, because the direction Madden 12 has gone is a great new direction, not bad.
So you agree with me then and are not worried? I think you need to read the question and my response again.
 

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