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Over the next few weeks, EA Sports will show 25 new plays that you will find in Madden NFL 12.

To be clear, there are more than 25 new plays in the game. Each day, a new play will be accompanied by a screen of the play art and a brief description of why the play has been added to Madden NFL 12.

Play #20 features the Sugar Blitz.

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Sub 2-3-6 Even Sugar Blitz Sub 2-3-6 Even is a defensive set in which the two outside linebackers will align in a three point stance. This gives the defense a four down linemen look with two athletic speed rushers coming off the edge. The Sugar Blitz is a play in which the middle linebacker and strong safety will align in the left and right A gaps in order to blitz.

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# 1 LBzrule @ 04/20/11 11:21 AM
I like it. I like it a lot.
 
# 2 Senator Palmer @ 04/20/11 11:26 AM
The Bills used to have a "Sugar Rush" when Fewell was there, but they would used 4 linemen (sometimes DEs) in a two point stance. Hopefully a package option will be added to ALL the defensive formations for 4 defensive ends.
 
# 3 NAdkins01 @ 04/20/11 11:56 AM
Wow looks like a nano waiting to happen if the blocking doesn't work correctly.
 
# 4 PantherBeast_OS @ 04/20/11 11:57 AM
They are putting out a lot blitz plays in this year for madden12. I'm really hoping the DBs and safies do a lot better on coverage. But this play does look pretty sweet and all. This might be a play worth putting into the custom playbook once the game comes out.
 
# 5 sportyguyfl31 @ 04/20/11 12:11 PM
Interesting..hope man coverage ratings matter, and they dont go back to overpowering it, otherwise that is going to be a Lobby Match Player's orgasm.
 
# 6 jyoung @ 04/20/11 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Legend Killer
They are putting out a lot blitz plays in this year for madden12.
Clearly, they know their fanbase.

90% of the guys you play online just blitz their *** off and play bump man all game.
 
# 7 BezO @ 04/20/11 01:12 PM
Cool blitz. I'd love to see it in action and how the o-line will respond.

Edit: I'd like to see them duplicate both offensive & defensive plays in similar formations/fronts. This will only be in the 2-3-6 even set. It should be in ALL 2-3-6 sets.
 
# 8 Senator Palmer @ 04/20/11 02:05 PM
I was hoping they would incorporate the hashmarks into the screen so that you can see the different techniques that the corners are playing, like NCAA is doing.
 
# 9 WFColonel56 @ 04/20/11 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
Cool blitz. I'd love to see it in action and how the o-line will respond.

Edit: I'd like to see them duplicate both offensive & defensive plays in similar formations/fronts. This will only be in the 2-3-6 even set. It should be in ALL 2-3-6 sets.
I can tell you for sure that either 1 of 2 things WILL happen if just the OL is blocking with no help.....

1. either of the a gap blitzers will come untouched
2. A LB (DE spot) will come untouched...
 
# 10 extremeskins04 @ 04/20/11 02:28 PM
I love the new plays but I have to question why they are adding more plays? Wasn't the entire point to last year's game was that they were TOO many plays? So now instead of having 300 plays (which was the original complaint last year), we have 325?

I'm not trying to be funny, I'm just questioning the logic behind adding yet more plays.
 
# 11 Senator Palmer @ 04/20/11 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by extremeskins04
I love the new plays but I have to question why they are adding more plays? Wasn't the entire point to last year's game was that they were TOO many plays? So now instead of having 300 plays (which was the original complaint last year), we have 325?

I'm not trying to be funny, I'm just questioning the logic behind adding yet more plays.
I missed this, but who was complaining about too many plays?

If anything, because of the lack of tiered playbooks, we need more plays that will give us the options we're looking for, and an efficient way to group them on gameday into a sort of virtual playcall sheet.
 
# 12 BezO @ 04/20/11 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Senator Palmer
I missed this, but who was complaining about too many plays?

If anything, because of the lack of tiered playbooks, we need more plays that will give us the options we're looking for, and an efficient way to group them on gameday into a sort of virtual playcall sheet.
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They can keep the new offensive plays. Just duplicate many of the current plays over different/similar formations so that I can run them from different looks. For example, there shouldn't be a run play in I-Twins that's not in all other I formations.

We need ALL the new plays on defense since it's obvious they still haven't tiered the play calling. And defensive "plays" need to also be duplicated over similar fronts... 4-3 over, under, normal, stack, ect.
 
# 13 Palo20 @ 04/20/11 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TNT713
Although I'll run this blitz, it looks easy to block from I-Form, Far, and Near formations.

Later
But wouldn't you use this defensive package against multi WR sets?
 
# 14 WFColonel56 @ 04/20/11 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo20
But wouldn't you use this defensive package against multi WR sets?
In theory yes.

But using this package vs, lets say I form, gives the defense an advantage in terms of coverage to route running ability (in most cases) which is what you want in a defense when you are in a cover 0...

And also people may just get in the personnel in a 3rd and med/long situation (no matter who is on the field for the offense).....just because it may be a persons 3rd down defense
 
# 15 shttymcgee @ 04/21/11 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WFColonel56
I can tell you for sure that either 1 of 2 things WILL happen if just the OL is blocking with no help.....

1. either of the a gap blitzers will come untouched
2. A LB (DE spot) will come untouched...
Don't you think someone should come free in that scenario? Its 6 rushers vs 5 blockers?
 
# 16 TheDelta @ 04/21/11 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WFColonel56
I can tell you for sure that either 1 of 2 things WILL happen if just the OL is blocking with no help.....

1. either of the a gap blitzers will come untouched
2. A LB (DE spot) will come untouched...
Guess what, when you have 6 blitzers against 5 linemen without help, someone will come in unblocked. That's not an exploit, that's basic math.
 
# 17 Palo20 @ 04/21/11 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TNT713
I wouldn't unless my opponent gave me specific reason to use this. I don't like to blitz the middle against multiple WR sets unless there's a dangerous pass catching threat in the backfield. I'd be more apt to use this between the 35's against base formations...

I'd use the additional speed to make sure my man coverage holds up while the pressure does it's thing. From the diagram, it looks to be Dime personnel with LB Ends... I have to assume that the SS and MLB are blitzing the A's.

We'll see how it works.

Later
And this goes back to the "madden world" vs real life debate. If the offense comes out in 21 personnel (2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE) in real life, the defense usually matches up with their base personnel. You would almost never see a team bring in 1 DL, 5 LB and 5 DBs to match up to the offense. That's a huge exploit for the offense to run the ball at will, but that's not always the case in Madden.

There are some TEs who dictate matching up with an extra DB: Gates, Clark, Aaron Hernandez, etc but for the most part, there is not a lot of Nickel played against base formations. Last couple years, the Packers primarily played Nickel against base offenses, but they're only able to get away with it because of Charles Woodson. He lines up on the slot and is as effective as a LB at stopping the run. He's a special player. Most teams can't afford to have an extra DB stopping the run but on Madden it's commonplace.
 
# 18 WFColonel56 @ 04/21/11 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shttymcgee
Don't you think someone should come free in that scenario? Its 6 rushers vs 5 blockers?
Yes......I was just saying how they would come free

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Originally Posted by TheDelta
Guess what, when you have 6 blitzers against 5 linemen without help, someone will come in unblocked. That's not an exploit, that's basic math.
The word exploit never came out of my mouth........
#fail
 
# 19 Palo20 @ 04/22/11 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TNT713
The RL v Madden argument might apply IF I used this as a base defense against base offense. In my first post, I stated that I'd use this if my opponent gave me a reason. If my opponent is running the ball from base personnel, it's not likely that he's going to 'give me a reason' to bring 6 DB's against his base...

Furthermore, is he special because he's Charles Woodson? Or is he special because his coordinator uses him in a special way?

That's a rhetorical question. Both are true. But he's not the only defensive back that could be used in that fashion. There are plenty of other players who would fit well into the way Dom Capers uses Woodson. Those players just don't play in Dom's defense...

Later

I think historically in Madden, the Nickel CB has always played like Charles Woodson does in real life, regardless of who it is. CBs in general in Madden are too good against the run and they are the force player in most defensive plays in Madden.

If you're running a toss or power play to the right in Madden, is it your preference to have a WR on the play side (right) or the weak side (left) ? I think historically in Madden most would say keep the WR on the weak side (unless the D is in zone where the CB will be left unblocked). This is because the CBs are way too important in the running game where the OLB and SS should be utilized as the force player more often. In other words, it's way too easy to kick runs outside unless there is a CB in the area.
 

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