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Just FYI:

Analog Hitting
There is a contact and power bonus/penalty for your stride timing (when you pull back). To practice, you can turn the PCI on. When you stride perfectly (about when the ball is released), the PCI grows slightly to reflect the bonus. When your stride is off it'll shrink, and if you simply stride before the windup the maximum penalty applies.

Your swing timing (when you push forward) is still the most important, but having both timings matter makes it harder to time your swing and may also change your swing strategy. If your stride timing is bad enough (and high enough priority to mention), the swing analysis will show it.

Analog Pitching
As always, pitcher ability and pitch type affect the difficulty of locating pitches. The perfect release timing varies for each pitcher and between the windup and stretch deliveries.

As detailed in the strategy guide, you can always see your release timing in the pitcher/batter analysis tool (press select and then L1/R1). Switch to the 'Meter Timing' filter and each pitch will be labeled with its release timing.

In online games, your opponent doesn't see your meter. In local 2P games on one machine, the meter doesn't show the left/right result.

Heading out of town now, have fun!

Update
The perfect stride timing is based on time to plate, so for example knuckleballs and changeups have different stride timing. The PCI's bonus/penalty size change is not immediate but stretched over time.

Analog hitting has the power/contact/normal swing functionality. The in-game strategy guide goes into detail on the differences between these three.

When the batter doesn't swing, you get pitch info instead of swing analysis. The release timing text is for the pitcher's pitch release and not the batter. So in single player, it's telling you the CPU's timing on the meter. It works in 2P as well.

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# 1 CAMPBLACKMAMBA24 @ 03/02/11 12:55 PM
Good stuff right here. Thanks Brian
 
# 2 nemesis04 @ 03/02/11 01:02 PM
Thanks Brian! Enjoy your time off!
 
# 3 vln13 @ 03/02/11 01:08 PM
Thanks, as always!
 
# 4 Shakedowncapo @ 03/02/11 01:08 PM
What happens with knuckleballers? Don't players usually stride later in relation to staying back on the ball?
 
# 5 Tommyklaid @ 03/02/11 01:36 PM
Some good stuff right there!

DEVS coming in to the forum to "expand explanation" on the new analog system? ?

Wow!
 
# 6 RGmoney @ 03/02/11 01:58 PM
Good info here. Thanks Brian.
 
# 7 NAFBUC @ 03/02/11 02:03 PM
Thanks. Always can use some hitting tips.
 
# 8 SFGposey @ 03/02/11 02:44 PM
does any 1 know if it matters if you it power swing or contact swing when using analog controls?
 
# 9 Antec @ 03/02/11 03:02 PM
It does. You can tell by looking at the swing analysis after the swing. Power Swing's PCI is tiny while Contact swing's is huge.

Do you have to start the stride based on the batter's individual style or is it always when the Pitcher is releasing the ball? For example Buster Posey's swing takes forever.

I'm starting his when the pitcher raises his leg but I struggle horribly with Posey.
 
# 10 nyyanksrdbest @ 03/02/11 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antec
It does. You can tell by looking at the swing analysis after the swing. Power Swing's PCI is tiny while Contact swing's is huge.

Do you have to start the stride based on the batter's individual style or is it always when the Pitcher is releasing the ball? For example Buster Posey's swing takes forever.

I'm starting his when the pitcher raises his leg but I struggle horribly with Posey.
Does pressing X or O or Square pre-pitch matter if you're using analog control, or does it go just based on how you swing the bat?
 
# 11 nyyanksrdbest @ 03/02/11 07:15 PM
Sorry Antec, didn't mean to quote you on that.
 
# 12 sbmnky @ 03/02/11 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antec
It does. You can tell by looking at the swing analysis after the swing. Power Swing's PCI is tiny while Contact swing's is huge.

Do you have to start the stride based on the batter's individual style or is it always when the Pitcher is releasing the ball? For example Buster Posey's swing takes forever.

I'm starting his when the pitcher raises his leg but I struggle horribly with Posey.
I think that's way too early to start you swing. I start all my batter pretty much the same - right before or during the release of the pitch from the pitcher's hand.

I will keep my eye focused on the pitcher's hat and when he's about half way through his windup I shift my eyes to look in the zone of where's he's going to be releasing the pitch. Once I see the the ball in his hand within that zone is when I start my pre-load (push down on the RS). Even if I take a pitch, I will release the RS so I can see how my stride timing is. I'm usually 'Normal' or 'Perfect' on AS & HoF (haven't tried Legend yet).

I recommend taking an inning or two and just watching pitching and practicing your RS movement/timing. This really helped me get feel for each batter and I am not of the opinion that there is a HUGE difference in timing between a guy like Torres and Posey. There is a slight difference, but it's not seconds different, IMO. I think hitting is very much feel based this year which I love - especially when batting with guys who have a fluid movement pre-pitch.

Hope that helps.
 
# 13 brezz2001 @ 03/02/11 09:48 PM
Can someone help explain to me how to use the post-pitch swing analysis? There is contact and timing, does timing have to do with pushing back on the stick and contact have to do with pushing forward? Or am I just overthinking it?

Brian
 
# 14 I_Love_Piazza @ 03/02/11 09:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brezz2001
Can someone help explain to me how to use the post-pitch swing analysis? There is contact and timing, does timing have to do with pushing back on the stick and contact have to do with pushing forward? Or am I just overthinking it?

Brian
When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.

I've figured out that no matter what kind of stride or leg kick a guy has, it's good to just pull back around the same time as the pitcher releases the ball. It's pretty simple once you realize that.

I have been using contact swing like crazy (pressing O before the pitch) when I have two strikes. I got Wilson to throw 65 pitches in 4 innings and Lincecum to throw 102 pitches in 6 innings.
 
# 15 sbmnky @ 03/02/11 11:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I_Love_Piazza
When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.

I've figured out that no matter what kind of stride or leg kick a guy has, it's good to just pull back around the same time as the pitcher releases the ball. It's pretty simple once you realize that.

I have been using contact swing like crazy (pressing O before the pitch) when I have two strikes. I got Wilson to throw 65 pitches in 4 innings and Lincecum to throw 102 pitches in 6 innings.
This is a definitely helps increase pitch counts and helps foul off borderline pitches.
 
# 16 Phillies2010 @ 03/03/11 12:51 AM
very useful thanks alot
 
# 17 thx1113 @ 03/03/11 04:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I_Love_Piazza
When you don't swing, the "release" is telling you how well you timed the pushing back on teh stick. When you do swing, the "release" and "timing" are telling you the whole result of your swing, so it factors in the push back and the push forward.
I'm sorry for doubting you, but have we had any confirmation that this is really what's going on? I was under the impression that the "release" information if you didn't swing was referring to the pitchers' release.

You may well be right, and I hope you are, as that information would be very useful, but I'd really like to see a dev confirm or deny what's going on there.
 
# 18 PsychoBulk @ 03/03/11 05:22 AM
I think thx is right...even on timing on hitting, if you dont swing it will give you a release information...its how well the CPU pitcher hit his line, nothing to do with the batter.

To clarify, if you dont swing the release info is the CPU pitchers timing, if you do, its your swing timing.
 
# 19 brezz2001 @ 03/03/11 07:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoBulk
I think thx is right...even on timing on hitting, if you dont swing it will give you a release information...its how well the CPU pitcher hit his line, nothing to do with the batter.

To clarify, if you dont swing the release info is the CPU pitchers timing, if you do, its your swing timing.
Even against the CPU? It seems strange that they would want to tell us that the CPU pitcher had good timing when releasing his pitch.

Brian
 
# 20 nyyanksrdbest @ 03/03/11 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbmnky
This is a definitely helps increase pitch counts and helps foul off borderline pitches.
As I asked though, is there any point of pressing O for Contact or square for power pre-pitch if you're using the analog controls? (or the right joystick simply)?
 

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