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Looking for info on a second patch for Backbreaker? Well, look no more. Todd just confirmed there are no plans for it.

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"Hi Guys,

Many of you have been asking about the possibility of another patch post Greathouse.

Greathouse added many features to the game and we really appreciate your feedback and input into it. It was a huge undertaking and we are proud of what was achieved by the team.

But, at this time we are not planning to release a further patch to Backbreaker 1. The Backbreaker team are currently pushing forwards on their next projects, which we are very excited about news on this to follow soon!

Once again, thanks to all the fans for your support. Please continue to discuss and debate Backbreaker 1 with me on the forum.

Todd."

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# 1 PaleVermilion @ 10/22/10 11:29 AM
Out of curiosity, what does this do for your faith in Natural Motion to support games in the future? Would you buy a Backbreaker 2?
 
# 2 LingeringRegime @ 10/22/10 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PaleVermilion
Out of curiosity, what does this do for your faith in Natural Motion to support games in the future? Would you buy a Backbreaker 2?
I would. The Greathouse patch was a overwhelming surprise to me. Most developers release a patch post release that is just bare bones. Great house was the full skeletal system. There were obviously still a lot lacking, but it has the best potential future of any sports game

In a perfect world NM will league with 2K Sports. This would be an unstoppable juggernaut. Physics from NM, Gameplay and Presentation from 2K. Maybe it isn't possible on this current crop of consoles. But wouldn't it be nice on the PS4 and XBOX 720.
 
# 3 kjcheezhead @ 10/22/10 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PaleVermilion
Out of curiosity, what does this do for your faith in Natural Motion to support games in the future? Would you buy a Backbreaker 2?
For me, this is an easy question. I enjoyed the Greathouse patch and what it did for Backbreaker. Also, thanks to current exclusive licenses and the lack football games because of it, I feel obligated to support any new football game that's being developed.
 
# 4 Blitzburgh @ 10/22/10 07:14 PM
I will definitely support this game and NM. It has the potential and ground set to be what a football game is supposed to be. The problem IMO is they need to realize that no matter what people what to play with the NFL and it needs to look that way as well. It can't look futuristic and not have customization and succeed. It also needs more camera options so that gamers can relate to what they are used to and enjoy the game however they prefer.

I would love to see 2k's comeback be part of BB2. That would be absolutely insane just as long as we can continue to create the NFL teams like in BB1 and we are set.
 
# 5 mestevo @ 10/23/10 02:35 AM
I'm not making any excuses for NM, they've got a long way to go to try and get me to buy one of their products day 1 again, if at all. People cite money and time as reasons Backbreaker was half baked, then they develop a massive patch that breaks as much as it fixes. The game was never a very good football game with so many fundamental things wrong with it due to physics oddities. It would have been able to claim success if it had just tried to be a new kind of blitz game, speed up the players and watch them explode on each other with massive tackles... the physics problems and shallow game modes that demolished their chance at any kind of sim categorization wouldn't have been a detriment to the game then. Instead they tried to cater to everyone and never were really won over anyone but the customization-happy guys, and Greathouse even managed to mess up what that group of gamers were doing too.

No idea why Tackle Alley isnt on PSN and XBL for $10, Backbreaker is awful and I'd buy an XBLA TA in a heartbeat to compete with friends for scores. They could make a living with games like that for various sports.

I give all games a chance, but stuff like finally revealing the 'franchise' modes just a couple days before release isn't going to fly for any followup. They also need to change the name to Natural Motion Football or something.
 
# 6 videlsports @ 10/23/10 07:53 AM
I like this game, and I would buy BB2, they are developing Hockey now. I hope they develop all sports games, Basketball too.
 
# 7 canes21 @ 10/23/10 12:26 PM
They aren't developing any more patches for "Backbreaker 1", so I guess that kind of confirms a Backbreaker 2 if it hasn't been already?

Are the same people making IceBreaker who made this or is it a new team? I would like to see another Backbreaker come out soon. The first was a good game for a first attempt in my opinion. It set up a great base and I think a BB2 could potentially be the best football game made if they really do it right.
 
# 8 TreFacTor @ 10/25/10 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PaleVermilion
Out of curiosity, what does this do for your faith in Natural Motion to support games in the future? Would you buy a Backbreaker 2?
You'd have to be a complete fanboy or a complete fool to buy their next game knowing that they will only release one patch for it. Considering that there may not be a huge list of improvements in BB2, I don't see how anyone who bought the first can be courageous enough to essentially throw good money after bad. I will keep an eye out for information, but I will not simply go out and buy it because I bought the first. I could see if the game was as good as say Beyond Good and Evil or something like a sleeper cult hit, but only selling 80,000 in the video game world is the equivalent to being completely unknown... heck there are indie games that cost less and sell more on XBLA.

It may have cost NatMo some change, and put them in the red on the profits of the game, but it would have solidified their fanbase if they at least fixed what they broke with the Greathouse patch which was the games best attraction. Not fixing the game is going to be one of many mistakes this company makes and will reflect in their sales of future titles. They will get a bad rep from this and it will be hard to make people forget especially those of us that stood by them for years even before the game came out.
 
# 9 jyoung @ 10/25/10 10:36 AM
I'm fine with this news.

The Greathouse Patch did so much to help the game.

But I think the next logical step is to give it a rest and start coming up with ways to make sure Backbreaker 2 does better at retail.
 
# 10 rooney8 @ 10/28/10 06:38 PM
Saying Backbreaker1 clearly indicates a Backbreaker2. Would love to see this game suceed. Has huge potential but the first effort wasn't good enough.
 
# 11 NoDakHusker @ 10/29/10 11:18 PM
BB was a solid effort, it didn't get a lot of things right, but I certainly had fun with it and Tackle Alley was definitely a strong point for the game.

What impresses me is how much they paid attention to the community and listened to the consumer's concerns. Greathouse was what a patch should be, granted it also brought some other issues that weren't there beforehand. If BB2 ever comes along, I'll be sure to throw some money that way.
 
# 12 B.D.McGee @ 11/08/10 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mestevo
I'm not making any excuses for NM, they've got a long way to go to try and get me to buy one of their products day 1 again, if at all. People cite money and time as reasons Backbreaker was half baked, then they develop a massive patch that breaks as much as it fixes. The game was never a very good football game with so many fundamental things wrong with it due to physics oddities. It would have been able to claim success if it had just tried to be a new kind of blitz game, speed up the players and watch them explode on each other with massive tackles... the physics problems and shallow game modes that demolished their chance at any kind of sim categorization wouldn't have been a detriment to the game then. Instead they tried to cater to everyone and never were really won over anyone but the customization-happy guys, and Greathouse even managed to mess up what that group of gamers were doing too.

No idea why Tackle Alley isnt on PSN and XBL for $10, Backbreaker is awful and I'd buy an XBLA TA in a heartbeat to compete with friends for scores. They could make a living with games like that for various sports.

I give all games a chance, but stuff like finally revealing the 'franchise' modes just a couple days before release isn't going to fly for any followup. They also need to change the name to Natural Motion Football or something.
Thank God!! Someone with some sense. They half-a$$ed this game is the best part of your post. They did this very thing and the game suffered. I will never buy one of their games first day or 12 months day...don't care for em anymore.
 
# 13 RayRay34 @ 11/08/10 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by B.D.McGee
Thank God!! Someone with some sense. They half-a$$ed this game is the best part of your post. They did this very thing and the game suffered. I will never buy one of their games first day or 12 months day...don't care for em anymore.


Someones bitter about something!!!!
 
# 14 boooey @ 11/16/10 04:46 PM
If i see that BB2 is a big improvement over BB1 i will gladly hand over my money to them.

A small groups of devs and limited budget and they still sold the game for $10 less than that other game.

They will have my support until EA gets their act together.. or gets another dev studio to make their game.
 
# 15 mestevo @ 11/17/10 10:39 AM
My support can't be bought with a $10 discount, competition is irrelevant, I'll support a good game if they can make.
 
# 16 spankdatazz22 @ 11/17/10 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NoDakHusker
BB was a solid effort, it didn't get a lot of things right, but I certainly had fun with it and Tackle Alley was definitely a strong point for the game.

What impresses me is how much they paid attention to the community and listened to the consumer's concerns. Greathouse was what a patch should be, granted it also brought some other issues that weren't there beforehand. If BB2 ever comes along, I'll be sure to throw some money that way.
Agreed. Considering the obstacles they had to deal with being a small developer and this being their first effort attempting to make a football game I think they did a good job. It's far too easy to underestimate the difficulty trying to develop an unlicensed/non-major licensed sports game; even experienced developers like 2K and EA struggle (APF and EA's college baseball game). What NaturalMotion introduced in terms of realtime physics in a sports game reverberated across all sports titles which is saying something - even more impressive considering it's a first-time effort. If they get the opportunity I'm sure they'll build on this first experience.
 
# 17 catcatch22 @ 11/18/10 10:37 AM
I liked backbreaker but there was just not enough ratings to get anything done to make the game better. Too few ratings controlled too many areas of the game. Once I saw that it was not possible to adjust the ratings to get the best of both worlds I stopped playing. However if they expand some of those attributes into more football specific areas then then the next backbreaker should be great.
 
# 18 JayBee74 @ 11/26/10 11:11 PM
I was on the bandwagon and lost so much interest I haven't been on this board in months. Extremely disappointing effort. The quest for a really good football game still goes on.
 
# 19 Only1LT @ 12/02/10 12:57 PM
I liked BB1. They had a lot of great ideas. First and foremost being the camera angles.

Having said that, I wouldn't rule out buying BB2, but I would be extremely reluctant to. Greathouse totally ruined the run game and the fact that they won't fix that, doesn't engender much confidence.

Being on PS3, the lack of ability to edit ratings, also is severely impacts the enjoyment of the game. I traded it away after it looked like they were done with the game. I understand that it was the publisher and funding and all that, but that doesn't do me any good having a game that is pretty much useless since you have to throw basically every down.

The game did some things very right, and I do miss the game. I may pick it up again at some point if I can find it for like $5-$10 used on Amazon, but I will be very cautious in giving them more money for BB2.

I think they would be better served selling the engine to another developer than making the game themselves.
 

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