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According to Joystiq, THQ will consider a longer development cycle for the next UFC game.

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"After reaffirming it as "still a top franchise" Farrell told the call, "What we're thinking about not to necessarily reinvigorate it because it's a great franchise but as I said in my prepared remarks, we're considering a longer development cycle. 15-, 18-, 21-months between releases rather than annually." That increased development time will, ostensibly, increase product quality and, with fewer releases, increase consumer demand. That combined with the UFC training and fitness game (not to mention PSP ports), Farrell assures analysts that "We think there's a lot of growth to be had with the UFC franchise over the next several years."

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# 1 LingeringRegime @ 08/09/10 11:43 PM
I wish that they would have made this decision after 09 was out.
 
# 2 Gotmadskillzson @ 08/10/10 12:08 AM
Yeah they do that......and watch 1/2 their base jump ship to EA MMA. Because without a doubt, EA has the money and people power to do it annually. THQ's problem was they got greedy and stretched themselves too thin.

Making it for the PSP was a waste of time, money and people power. I mean seriously how many people still use their PSP ? PSP isn't hot. I say nowadays maybe 1 out 10 people still rocking a PSP on a regular basis.

During the 2 year break in between games, they better do patches and roster updates or something.

Have anybody else notice that in 2010 the octagon mat don't change anymore like it did in 09 ? Remember back in 09 everytime a new UFC event was coming up, the octagon had it written everywhere ?

this year there is none of that at all.
 
# 3 Fiasco West @ 08/10/10 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson
Yeah they do that......and watch 1/2 their base jump ship to EA MMA. Because without a doubt, EA has the money and people power to do it annually. THQ's problem was they got greedy and stretched themselves too thin.

Making it for the PSP was a waste of time, money and people power. I mean seriously how many people still use their PSP ? PSP isn't hot. I say nowadays maybe 1 out 10 people still rocking a PSP on a regular basis.

During the 2 year break in between games, they better do patches and roster updates or something.

Have anybody else notice that in 2010 the octagon mat don't change anymore like it did in 09 ? Remember back in 09 everytime a new UFC event was coming up, the octagon had it written everywhere ?

this year there is none of that at all.
Well I think the gamers will benefit from this though. I'd rather get one good UFC game ever 2 years rather than a forced out one. We can't be sure EA Sports will release a MMA game every year, I think it will be more of a fight night thing for EA. Also it will be interesting to see the sales figures for a more generic MMA game vs the one with the UFC tag to it.

But in the absence of a new game yeah...they should at least do roster updates.
 
# 4 DaveDQ @ 08/10/10 07:38 AM
It's possible that EA's MMA game could give THQ's a boost. If THQ waits until Fall 2011, that gives about a year between EA's MMA. Suppose EA MMA has high success. THQ could ride on that buzz and then introduce their UFC game (UFC still obviously the stronger brand).

What I mean by that is some would enjoy EA MMA but sort of wish they were using what is the UFC. That's when THQ can take advantage of that desire and put their game out and meet that need.

They'd have to certainly step up their game though. Right now, EA's title in its first showing looks to be running a lot smoother and more natural in its animations than UFC 2010. But I agree with MadSkillz. They tried to capitalize on the UFC brand but didn't do a good job of improving the game. This is yet another good example of how competition sometimes catches the big boys with their pants down.
 
# 5 Luck911 @ 08/10/10 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson
Yeah they do that......and watch 1/2 their base jump ship to EA MMA. Because without a doubt, EA has the money and people power to do it annually. THQ's problem was they got greedy and stretched themselves too thin.
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Half is jumping to EA?You really underestimating the strength of the UFC license.Casual fans can't tell you who is in Dream,SF,Sengoku,or Bellator.UFC has brand recognition and most of fighters that fans know that reason why Randy Couture is on the cover with the Russian guy.

UFC license is like the NFL license in game world,EA MMA can far outstrip and be a better game than UU 2010 people see UFC they pick up game.I don't think THQ stretch themselves to thin UU 2010 is fundamentally a better game than 09.THQ forgot who their audience is they made moves to make the game more accessible to casual fans when they should be making a MMA sim and autoblocking,refs standing up the fight to quick,to easy reversals and subs.This UU 2010 is better game than 2009,2009 is better mma sim than 2010.

THQ needs to focus making a MMA sim for their core audience
 
# 6 aholbert32 @ 08/10/10 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson
Yeah they do that......and watch 1/2 their base jump ship to EA MMA. Because without a doubt, EA has the money and people power to do it annually. THQ's problem was they got greedy and stretched themselves too thin.

You underestimate the power of the UFC brand. Most casual MMA fans dont know more than 5-6 fighters featured in EA MMA (Couture, Fedor, Sylvia, Shamrock, maybe Overeem and Shields) and they know most of them because of the UFC. I dont see UFC fans jumping to another game just because the game is on a longer dev cycle.

Also EA MMA is on a 2yr cycle to and there is no guarantee we will get a sequel to that game.
 
# 7 DaveDQ @ 08/10/10 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
You underestimate the power of the UFC brand. Most casual MMA fans dont know more than 5-6 fighters featured in EA MMA (Couture, Fedor, Sylvia, Shamrock, maybe Overeem and Shields) and they know most of them because of the UFC. I dont see UFC fans jumping to another game just because the game is on a longer dev cycle.

Also EA MMA is on a 2yr cycle to and there is no guarantee we will get a sequel to that game.
I think EA's brand is pretty strong too. EA Sports usually has a cart all to itself in my town's GameStop, among other types of adds. I'm already seeing a strong showing of EA MMA. Having UFC is a huge factor, but at the same time THQ did something wrong with it for them to be evaluating their development cycle and possibly changing things, and I think EA can make a dent if they put out a game with quality and depth.

It's the same thing they did with Smackdown vs Raw. Annual releases just don't hold up when not much has changed or innovation and creativity lack. I think these annual games that are seeing low sales are beginning to realize that having the power-brand isn't cutting it.
 
# 8 bkfount @ 08/10/10 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveDQ
I think EA's brand is pretty strong too. EA Sports usually has a cart all to itself in my town's GameStop, among other types of adds. I'm already seeing a strong showing of EA MMA. Having UFC is a huge factor, but at the same time THQ did something wrong with it for them to be evaluating their development cycle and possibly changing things, and I think EA can make a dent if they put out a game with quality and depth.
Of course EA will use its brand to push their MMA game, because they'll have to. They're playing the underdog in this genre, as the UFC game has the mainstream appeal. Neither game needs to be a yearly release though, and it's looking like EA will actually cycle between Fight Night and EA MMA.
 
# 9 Gotmadskillzson @ 08/10/10 11:18 AM
I don't know........that will be a tough one to call whether or not EA MMA out sells UFC. Can go either way really. We all know EA has the money to flood the air waves with commercials for their games. Even have the money to pay for a 30 minute infomercial for their game.

Last night on Spike they had a 30 minute infomercial for Madden 11 basically. Even had an all day Madden event in New Orleans, that included a Madden parade, madden float and concerts. EA got money to burn.

So who is to say they won't do the same thing for EA MMA ? And if their demo is hot, word of mouth going to spread like wild fire. One thing IMO that is going to attract a lot of casuals to EA MMA is those Vale Tudo rules when you fight in Brazil.

Nevertheless competition is a good thing, a great thing. Because in the end, it is a win win for consumers.
 
# 10 mgoblue @ 08/10/10 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
You underestimate the power of the UFC brand. Most casual MMA fans dont know more than 5-6 fighters featured in EA MMA (Couture, Fedor, Sylvia, Shamrock, maybe Overeem and Shields) and they know most of them because of the UFC. I dont see UFC fans jumping to another game just because the game is on a longer dev cycle.

Also EA MMA is on a 2yr cycle to and there is no guarantee we will get a sequel to that game.
I'm more than a casual fan and while I know a lot of the guys EA has gotten, I'm not really hyped to play as 90+% of them.

I'm probably getting EA MMA because I enjoy the sport and want to see what they do, but I'll always want to be fighting as the guys I know and follow in the UFC. It's like pro football games...I don't want to play as some generic guys, I want real NFL players.
 
# 11 sammy g @ 08/10/10 12:29 PM
This is a good thing cause they really need to make this game better. UFC 2010 was almost unplayable for me, so I hope this greatly improves the next UFC game
 
# 12 LingeringRegime @ 08/10/10 01:01 PM
EA already said a while back that they are on a bi-annual basis with their combat sports games.
 
# 13 SHAKYR @ 08/10/10 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
because EA MMA is not Madden. NCAA doesnt even get that Madden treatment and its a better game. Same with Fifa. Expect the MMA game to get the type of attention Fight Night typically gets. They arent going to go too over the top promoting a game for a sport with more of a hardcore fan base.
EA MMA is made in the same studio as Madden(Tiburon) with a much larger team than the Fight Night team(EA Canada) so I would expect much more.
 
# 14 aholbert32 @ 08/10/10 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SHAKYR
EA MMA is made in the same studio as Madden(Tiburon) with a much larger team than the Fight Night team(EA Canada) so I would expect much more.
That doesnt have anything to do with how many marketing dollars EA will put behind though.
 
# 15 CaptainZombie @ 08/11/10 08:53 AM
I am all for this as long as a another patch comes and we get a few roster updates along the way. This is THQ again, who hasn't even capitalized on roster updates with their WWE games where they can make more money.
 
# 16 Vast @ 08/11/10 11:22 AM
The short development cycle had absolutely nothing to do with the trashness of UFC 10.

All they had to do was add duck and sways, and add more signature moves while adding left handedness and tweaking the ground/submission game.

They added most of that but failed to realize what was soo amazing about the first game and destroyed the foundation it was built on.

Destroyed the stamina which was perfect in the first game.

Ruined the stand up, by removing the effectiveness of the 1-2 and normal combos. (hooks have more reach than jabs. etc.)

Removed the button mashing to escape subs and takedowns.

And then the cpu a.i. took 4 steps backwards.

No matter the dev. cycle this game would've been trash. Whoever is in charge is just terrible at their job.
 
# 17 sb24 @ 08/11/10 11:50 AM
^^^^^ Add to that the auto transistion block and you have a great list.
 

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