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# 1 canes21 @ 07/01/10 08:25 PM
Something about the way Donny talks makes me raise an eyebrow.

At least with the Raiders I can keep punting and making defensive stops until I get them so far back, the punt return gets me inside field goal range. Their special teams is dangerous!
 
# 2 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 08:29 PM
Tebow has 90 acceleration!! What in the bejesus...

That rookie wr thomas can burn chris johnson on a fade (who runs a 4.2)

way to show off those orange and blue colors there donny!

every single broncos rookie gets the benefit of the doubt..

the raiders? fahget about it...
 
# 3 Outkizast @ 07/01/10 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
Tebow has 90 acceleration!! What in the bejesus...

That rookie wr thomas can burn chris johnson on a fade (who runs a 4.2)

way to show off those orange and blue colors there donny!

every single broncos rookie gets the benefit of the doubt..

the raiders? fahget about it...
They don't have much else to talk about for the Broncos except their rookies haha... at least we have a LEGIT punter.... take THAT
 
# 4 Steve_OS @ 07/01/10 08:40 PM
This is the first one from IGN Scott.
 
# 5 Steve_OS @ 07/01/10 08:41 PM
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Question, do they have other videos like this one about ratings yet or is this the first one?
There is this tho.

http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=421289
 
# 6 brownmanz @ 07/01/10 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
Tebow has 90 acceleration!! What in the bejesus...

That rookie wr thomas can burn chris johnson on a fade (who runs a 4.2)

way to show off those orange and blue colors there donny!

every single broncos rookie gets the benefit of the doubt..

the raiders? fahget about it...
It's probably because Chris Johnson sucks.
 
# 7 canes21 @ 07/01/10 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brownmanz
It's probably because Chris Johnson sucks.
 
# 8 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Outkizast
They don't have much else to talk about for the Broncos except their rookies haha... at least we have a LEGIT punter.... take THAT
1000 dollars says if tebow is drafted by the raiders he gets 60 speed and 20thp and tha. I'm long used to Donny's bias towards the raiders by now, after all he is a bronco fan.

I'll never understand how they think it's ok to allow one guy to do ratings for 32 teams. No way you can remain objective and we are all subject to cognitive bias to some degree, even if it's subliminal.

Not one player on our team got the benefit of the doubt and many regressed after the last roster update for absolutely no reason (miller, gallery, even jason campbell)..even though this practically an entirely, new, better team. Makes no sense. Never have i seen one raider player get the benefit of the doubt, even the good ones. Even took Nnamdi forever to get his due...

The ratings should reflect that the raiders have been a team more plagued by inept coaching than lack of talent, after all WE call the plays. I'm tired of seeing unrealistic PHYSICAL portrayals of players on the raiders and i will edit them all myself LOWERING as well as RAISING things that i see fit, but it makes for a pretty cruddy online experience.
 
# 9 canes21 @ 07/01/10 08:50 PM
Really? So now theres a conspiracy about Donny and the Raiders? The ratings for both teams look fine for the most part. I disagree with Tebow's ratings and think he should go down some everywhere, but oh well. His passing ratings aren't exactly great so its not too big a problem.

And Jason Campbell's 83 is better than anything he had last year in any update. So I don't know what you;re talking about there.
 
# 10 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brownmanz
It's probably because Chris Johnson sucks.
running in a straight line with someone has nothing to do with his coverage ability. There's basically no one in the league faster than that guy and it's documented, dude ran a mythical sub 4.2 at his pro day. He's caught countless people on breakaways and that video as we saw it will never occur even if thomas has a field day on johnson. That is my gripe. An unrealistic physical portrayal of another Raider player.


Anyways thanks for the video steve, it was informative.
 
# 11 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
Really? So now theres a conspiracy about Donny and the Raiders? The ratings for both teams look fine for the most part. I disagree with Tebow's ratings and think he should go down some everywhere, but oh well. His passing ratings aren't exactly great so its not too big a problem.

And Jason Campbell's 83 is better than anything he had last year in any update. So I don't know what you;re talking about there.
I believe he ended the year at 84.
 
# 12 canes21 @ 07/01/10 08:54 PM
I'm pretty sure the highest he ever was was an 81. I may be mistaken though. I just don't see how you can argue the Raiders to be higher. The ratings are fine to me. They reflect a struggling team, which is what the Raiders are. They haven't won more than 5 games in a season since 2002.
 
# 13 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
I'm pretty sure the highest he ever was was an 81. I may be mistaken though. I just don't see how you can argue the Raiders to be higher. The ratings are fine to me. They reflect a struggling team, which is what the Raiders are. They haven't won more than 5 games in a season since 2002.
This team this year on paper is a lot better than a 5 win team, i think we can all agree to that.

I also think we are in a position to take the AFC west this year and i'm a realist..never having blindly backed the raiders ONCE since we lost Gruden and in previous years although i think we are a 9-7 team last year without Jamarcus Russell. We are a much better team now than we were at any point last year...again i think the ratings should reflect the individual players and their ability so they move as their real life counterparts would on the football field and the ratings for the most part (especially the team i know the best, the raiders) don't do this, some of the positions are flat out wrong too but that's another argument.
 
# 14 Maelstrom-XIII @ 07/01/10 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
This team this year on paper is a lot better than a 5 win team, i think we can all agree to that.
The Raiders do look to be a better team this year, sure...but by that thought, the Chargers look like a Superbowl winning team on paper EVERY year...as do the Cowboys and the Redskins...lots of talent, but it doesn't translate to a lot of wins...

With that said, I don't really follow the Raiders much, so I don't know if there is a conspiracy or not...but I do acknowledge that fan favorites tend to get a lot of love come rating time, while players who are just as talented get shafted, all because you don't see their name on the back of everyone's jerseys...
 
# 15 Senator Palmer @ 07/01/10 09:08 PM
I liked the on field perspectives they used in the video, but man those player models looked skinny.

No way Tebow has 90 ACC. He's got surprising speed when he gets going, but I've never seen him fly out of the pocket and get to fifth gear in a hurry.

And I don't know about the bias against the Raiders. Ratings or not, they've always been tough to play against in Madden.
 
# 16 canes21 @ 07/01/10 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
This team this year on paper is a lot better than a 5 win team, i think we can all agree to that.

I also think we are in a position to take the AFC west this year and i'm a realist..never having blindly backed the raiders ONCE since we lost Gruden and in previous years although i think we are a 9-7 team last year without Jamarcus Russell. We are a much better team now than we were at any point last year...again i think the ratings should reflect the individual players and their ability so they move as their real life counterparts would on the football field and the ratings for the most part (especially the team i know the best, the raiders) don't do this, some of the positions are flat out wrong too but that's another argument.
Every team is almost better on paper. But a name doesn't get you far, its how you play and can play with others. I'm not saying the Raiders do't have any talent, but they just don't have the talent that really warrants them any higher ratings. Coming from someone who has no bias towards any AFC team besides Tennessee, I think most the ratings released so far have been pretty good. Step back, act like you're not a Raiders fan and look at the ratings of the Broncos and Raiders then come back and see if you're still ruffled up over it.
 
# 17 RayAllen20 @ 07/01/10 09:27 PM
I personally think Donny Moore is a very good rater. I don't think he was biased at all towards the Broncos, since you have to remember he wasn't the one rating the rookies. People can complain about their team being rated low, but it doesn't matter too much. Moore does a great job increasing/decreasing ratings during the season. If the Raiders start off the season 7-0 and Campbell is tearing it up, there is no doubt he will eventually be 90 overall or above.

Also, I liked the videos of gameplay and especially that one handed snag from Randy Moss (Love the catching this year!) and the curl routes seem to better with locomotion as seen with Brandon Marshall.

My only concern is, will the ratings really be noticed with offensive and d-line men. I can notice them with QB's, HB's, WR's, and defensive backs (try throwing on Revis or Asomugha on All-Pro or above), but I never really notice a dominant offensive line, great pass rushers, or a dominant NT.

Luckily with the demo we can try all those out. I can't wait to see if the Jets O-line gets a great push, if Freeney and Mathis create pressure, and if Kris Jenkins is being double teamed and if he is able to penetrate the O-Line. If not, then I'll be pretty upset. But overall, this game is looking decent right now.
 
# 18 KyGamerLT @ 07/01/10 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KensaiKatai
running in a straight line with someone has nothing to do with his coverage ability. There's basically no one in the league faster than that guy and it's documented, dude ran a mythical sub 4.2 at his pro day. He's caught countless people on breakaways and that video as we saw it will never occur even if thomas has a field day on johnson. That is my gripe. An unrealistic physical portrayal of another Raider player.


Anyways thanks for the video steve, it was informative.
You do know fast DBs get burnt deep don't you? Barrett Ruud ran a 4.7 and Matt Forte ran a 4.46 Barrett was with him step for step straight line and stayed with him. Just because you're fast doesn't mean you can't be beat running a fly route.
 
# 19 aceoye @ 07/01/10 09:31 PM
gosh that Moss catch at 1:37 is just amazing looks just like the one handed catch he made against the colts in 07.
 
# 20 KensaiKatai @ 07/01/10 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by canes21
Every team is almost better on paper. But a name doesn't get you far, its how you play and can play with others. I'm not saying the Raiders do't have any talent, but they just don't have the talent that really warrants them any higher ratings. Coming from someone who has no bias towards any AFC team besides Tennessee, I think most the ratings released so far have been pretty good. Step back, act like you're not a Raiders fan and look at the ratings of the Broncos and Raiders then come back and see if you're still ruffled up over it.
Your right, they'll have time to prove themselves and get their ratings adjusted accordingly. I don't mean to overreact, but trust me when i tell you I have to LOWER as well as raise ratings to get them to perform like their real life counterparts. Speed guys are power guys, power guys are speed guys and maybe this goes for every team, i can't speak on it as i don't know them as well as the raiders....but there's a lot of things off-base with the raiders and i really do try to remain as objective as possible.

The Broncos rookies seem to get every benefit of the doubt. Our second round draft pick Lamarr Houston who i predict will be a big part of our defense is virtually unusable with 77 strength at dt and 72 speed at de in a four man front..it's things like this that make me say the things i do.

tim tebow 79 speed at a 4.72 and jason campbell 70 speed at 4.68. or tebow 84 strength and McClain 78 strength??

makes no sense.
 

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