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The Sports Game Guy has posted his NHL 10 preview, after attending the NHL Community Day last week.

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"Itís time that the community is able to talk about some of the feature seen at the NHL Community Day last week. EA has discussed them on their blog and I also posted up a link to an ESPN exclusive by Jon Robinson last week. What I am giving you here is my quick spin on each of the features.

As far as Iím concerned NHL is a sports game that is right at the top. MLB The Show along with the NHL series are two games that are peaking. When a sports game gets to this point it becomes a balance of fixing things and creating new features that wonít greatly affect the game and how it plays. I think youíll see with the feature list below that the NHL team has done a good job of this and is highly focused on making the NHL series as authentic as possible."

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# 1 Jamin23 @ 05/18/09 08:05 PM
Thanks Steve!! I think I might nave to buy my first hockey game since 2007. I'm not a big hockey fan but this years version seems very cool. It sounds so sick. This and madden will hold me over a month until the two basketball games come out in October.
 
# 2 tabulaRasa @ 05/19/09 03:05 AM
the article doesnīt show up for me....wtf??
 
# 3 TDKing @ 05/19/09 08:55 AM
I can't see it either.
 
# 4 Money99 @ 05/19/09 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TDKing
I can't see it either.
Really? I just read it two minutes ago.

I'll paste it here:

http://thesportsgameguy.easportsfans.com/?p=988

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Itís time that the community is able to talk about some of the feature seen at the NHL Community Day last week. EA has discussed them on their blog and I also posted up a link to an ESPN exclusive by Jon Robinson last week. What I am giving you here is my quick spin on each of the features.

As far as Iím concerned NHL is a sports game that is right at the top. MLB The Show along with the NHL series are two games that are peaking. When a sports game gets to this point it becomes a balance of fixing things and creating new features that wonít greatly affect the game and how it plays. I think youíll see with the feature list below that the NHL team has done a good job of this and is highly focused on making the NHL series as authentic as possible.

* Board Play - This is one that makes you immediately think of the EA slogan ďIf Itís In The Game, Itís In The GameĒ. To make NHL as authentic as possible this was a must at some point. Littman mentioned during the Community Day that they felt that a real fore-checking game was missing from NHL 09 and this is something they have really focused on. Now the strategy of dumping the puck in along the boards should be more valid in NHL 10. Youíll also want to use board play to your advantage on the defensive end as while engaged EA has intended that youíll be more protected from getting knocked down by checks.

* First Person Fighting - Over the years of playing Hockey video games 1 on 1 with friends one of the first things everyone tries is to get in a fight. While fighting has always been fun itís mostly had a boring camera angle and little strategy. First Person fighting takes you right into the action and looks to have a much more strategic approach. Dodging punches and moving your opponent in or out to gain at advantage will make Hockey fighting more interesting.

* Intimidation Tactics Ė Hockey is a physical sport. Thatís pretty obvious watching the playoffs. Teams try to gain an advantage by intimidating the other team through physical play or fighting. A fight at the right time can swing the momentum and EA has made fighting mean something in NHL 10. Start a fight at the right time and get your teams energy back. However if itís done at the wrong time it could work against you. While at first it may seem that this system will cause more fights but EA says that players will want to be selective and pick fights at right time. Now you know why Zack Stortini was brought in to talk to us for a Q&A. EA has tried to make sure this feature is authentic to the real life NHL. Be sure to check out the Q&A interview with Stortini here.

* Precision Passing Ė Littman stressed that he wasnít happy with last yearís ďalwaysĒ tape to tape passing. Also the community has asked for some variety with the passing system. The answer was to add three passing modes with ďHardcoreĒ being the most advanced mode. With ďHardcoreĒ the user will have control over speed and direction of the pass. ďNormalĒ will allow the user directional control which will allow lead passes and will also be subject to passing mistakes. The easiest mode will emulate last yearís passing of tape to tape. Littman mentioned that they really wanted to allow the user more control over what happened but at the same time make it authentic by creating bad passes that donít always hit the players stick every time. I also noticed that the two higher passing modes allowed for more realistic center ice play.

* Post Whistle Action Ė Part of the fun in NHL 09 especially in the OTP and EA Sports Hockey league is everyone flying around trying to check each other after the whistle. I see some users complain that EA allows it but bottom line is itís always there because itís fun. EA has gone a step further with NHL 10 adding meaning for post whistle scrums. In the NHL and especially playoff Hockey youíll notice that after every play there are small scraps with teams trying to get the upper hand or just get at their opponent. Itís all about taking your opponent off their game. With NHL 10 many things can now happen after the whistle. Penalties, fights, face washing are now all part of the fun after the whistle. Another cool part I saw was that shooting the puck at the goalie after the whistle will cause the other team to go after that player.

* Interactive Crowds Ė A lot of things in NHL 10 will get the crowd fired up. The crowd is much more interactive this year. Fights near the boards will cause the crowd to bang on the boards. Fighting will also pump up the home crowd as they wave towels now. The crowd also reacts to how well you are playing. Play bad at home and the crowd may boo you. Make big saves and play great and the crowd will get fired up. Fans also now react to opposing teams stars booing them when they get the puck. The last little cool crowd thing I saw was when the away team takes the puck behind their net there is always that fan that slams the glass really hard one time. Itís in!

So I think youíll see that everything above is right on track with making NHL 10 as authentic as possible.

Also be sure to check out the NHL 10 screens including 3 new ones.
 
# 5 BigH2k6 @ 05/19/09 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Money99
Really? I just read it two minutes ago.

I'll paste it here:

http://thesportsgameguy.easportsfans.com/?p=988
Thanks.

Wasn't able to see the article either. Jus the title and a blank page.
 
# 6 Qb @ 05/19/09 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RealmK
The answer was to add three passing modes with “Hardcore” being the most advanced mode. With “Hardcore” the user will have control over speed and direction of the pass. “Normal” will allow the user directional control which will allow lead passes and will also be subject to passing mistakes. The easiest mode will emulate last year’s passing of tape to tape.
So which one will it be for EASHL play? I have a bad feeling "hardcore" won't be mandatory and it will be up to the user. Paranoid? Perhaps...
 
# 7 Money99 @ 05/19/09 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Qb
So which one will it be for EASHL play? I have a bad feeling "hardcore" won't be mandatory and it will be up to the user. Paranoid? Perhaps...
I know.
But that's why I'd prefer to join an EASHL league with people you know want to be on the simmest settings possible.
 
# 8 Qb @ 05/19/09 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Money99
I know.
But that's why I'd prefer to join an EASHL league with people you know want to be on the simmest settings possible.
Well, all I know is that I saw the same thing happen with FIFA OTP ("FIFA Clubs") this year. A bunch of us who played 08 5v5 were so stoked for 10v10, but it ultimately disappointed us all in part due to allowing people to play with full assist. It was ping-pong cued up passing all over the place and since the controls were much more responsive, it made for quite the frustrating experience... if that makes any sense.

People would receive a pass, first touch away from the defender, fire another perfect pass, first-touch, perfect pass, and so on. It left those of us who wanted to use the manual or semi-assisted models two choices: (1) go assisted to keep up or (2) stick to your principles while putting yourself at a significant disadvantage. The FIFA 08 controls weren't as responsive -- not a good thing in general -- but it made for a different game online since you couldn't string passes together as easily...

If it's left up to user choice for EASHL play, you can bet full assist (ie, the same as this year) will be the overwhelming choice. Sure the team you're on may be full of idealistic manual-passers, but most won't. It'll be awesome for head-to-head against a friend or offline play (provided the AI isn't still tape-to-tape of course), but unless they disable assisted passing for ranked/EASHL play, it will all be for naught.

Not trying to blow things out of proportion, just a bad feeling based on prior experience as noted...
 
# 9 Ridgeberg @ 05/19/09 01:25 PM
I wonder if we can make the producers aware of this? I would think there is still time if the development process to make changes.

Maybe we could strike up a conversation with Jason (EA_Redshirt) and let him know what has happened in a similar situation (FIFA).
 
# 10 Qb @ 05/19/09 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridgeberg
I wonder if we can make the producers aware of this? I would think there is still time if the development process to make changes.

Maybe we could strike up a conversation with Jason (EA_Redshirt) and let him know what has happened in a similar situation (FIFA).
Sent him a message right after I posted.
 
# 11 joker75 @ 05/20/09 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Qb
Well, all I know is that I saw the same thing happen with FIFA OTP ("FIFA Clubs") this year. A bunch of us who played 08 5v5 were so stoked for 10v10, but it ultimately disappointed us all in part due to allowing people to play with full assist. It was ping-pong cued up passing all over the place and since the controls were much more responsive, it made for quite the frustrating experience... if that makes any sense.

People would receive a pass, first touch away from the defender, fire another perfect pass, first-touch, perfect pass, and so on. It left those of us who wanted to use the manual or semi-assisted models two choices: (1) go assisted to keep up or (2) stick to your principles while putting yourself at a significant disadvantage. The FIFA 08 controls weren't as responsive -- not a good thing in general -- but it made for a different game online since you couldn't string passes together as easily...

If it's left up to user choice for EASHL play, you can bet full assist (ie, the same as this year) will be the overwhelming choice. Sure the team you're on may be full of idealistic manual-passers, but most won't. It'll be awesome for head-to-head against a friend or offline play (provided the AI isn't still tape-to-tape of course), but unless they disable assisted passing for ranked/EASHL play, it will all be for naught.

Not trying to blow things out of proportion, just a bad feeling based on prior experience as noted...
Good comment! I also want to ensure that all players have the same conditions... disable all assisted passing for ranked/EASHL /league play is the condition for fair play !
 
# 12 Qb @ 05/20/09 08:22 AM
Sounds like all players will have to use the same passing settings for EASHL/ranked play, which most likely will not be full-assist.
 
# 13 Money99 @ 05/20/09 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Qb
Sounds like all players will have to use the same passing settings for EASHL/ranked play, which most likely will not be full-assist.
Nice!
 
# 14 Qb @ 05/21/09 01:02 PM
Got the OK to share Jason's reply to my inquiry about the passing settings for ranked/EASHL play:

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Originally Posted by Redshirt_EA
It is still an open question what the online settings will be, but I'm pretty sure there will not be as much pass assistance as there was for 09 for EASHL. Whichever way we set it, everyone will play with the same passing settings for EASHL and Versus games.

I doubt we'd go all the way to zero pass assistance to start with, but we will have the ability to change it, so if there is a strong consensus about it we could.
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Originally Posted by Redshirt_EA
I think that the online settings will be a considerable shift away from the current passing system that it will feel like a much different game (even without taking into account the other changes). There's quite a wide range in the passing options. The 09 passing would be at one extreme and the default for online will probably somewhere in the middle of the range.
Good news, eh?
 
# 15 joker75 @ 05/21/09 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Qb
Got the OK to share Jason's reply to my inquiry about the passing settings for ranked/EASHL play:





Good news, eh?
Sweet !
 
# 16 BigH2k6 @ 05/22/09 08:10 AM
Maybe what they really should do is setup 2 EASHL. One where some pass assist will be allowed and one for fully sim teams wher there is no pass assist.
 
# 17 Money99 @ 05/22/09 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BigH2k6
Maybe what they really should do is setup 2 EASHL. One where some pass assist will be allowed and one for fully sim teams wher there is no pass assist.
That's the better idea.
Or if you play with full pass-assist it's for non-ranked games only.

It takes a lot away from the BAP building process if you play with full pass-assist. Because if that's how it's going to be, I won't sink one XP point into my passing. There's no need because with full-assist everyone can dish the puck like Gretzky.

You need to give those that build playmakers some advantage and value to an EASHL team.
 
# 18 joker75 @ 05/23/09 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Money99
That's the better idea.
Or if you play with full pass-assist it's for non-ranked games only.

It takes a lot away from the BAP building process if you play with full pass-assist. Because if that's how it's going to be, I won't sink one XP point into my passing. There's no need because with full-assist everyone can dish the puck like Gretzky.

You need to give those that build playmakers some advantage and value to an EASHL team.
Great Idea !
 
# 19 dom22 @ 05/24/09 01:09 PM
What about introducing a certain degree of computer controlled error (how much I don't know) when using full assist that would encourage casual players to learn the manual passing scheme while at the same time not discouraging them completely?
 
# 20 Bolts_26 @ 05/25/09 07:38 PM
Hey Steve, thanks for this arcticle.

It was a very good read.

Keep us posted if you get anymore info,please.

I hope that they add some better features to dynasty. NHL 04 was a lot more interactive then this years. It would be nice to see them copy the "2k" series and add a trading block and have that in-depth trading/negotiation system
 

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