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IGN has revealed some of the Fight Night Round 4 heavyweights.

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"Now we have a small bit of proof for that claim with our reveal of seven out of the eight heavyweight boxers available. These massive mounds of muscle can take a beating and deal one out just as well with their more than 200 pound frames."

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# 1 TequILLa @ 03/27/09 07:11 PM
dang, that's it!?
 
# 2 Motown @ 03/27/09 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TequILLa
dang, that's it!?
relaaaaax.... more heavyweights to come bruh
 
# 3 Parasight @ 03/27/09 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Motown
relaaaaax.... more heavyweights to come bruh
Actually from the article it sounds like there's only one more Heavyweight fighter.
 
# 4 NYG_Meth @ 03/27/09 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Parasight
Actually from the article it sounds like there's only one more Heavyweight fighter.
That's the impression I got too. That would suck.

Edit: "Now we have a small bit of proof for that claim with our reveal of seven out of the eight heavyweight boxers available."

At least the screens look great.
 
# 5 aholbert32 @ 03/27/09 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thelwig14
No Wlad? What a ****ing joke! EA is clueless.

Chambers? Fine, put guys in there that helped mocap...but to not have the Klitschkos...or at least Wlad...is just ignorant and lazy.

I gotta agree. You dont have the top 2 heavyweights in Boxing? The only two that matter right now? Cmon. But they put James Toney in the game. You cant tell me they couldnt have signed someone like Arreola to help beef up the heavys.

All I'll say is Create a Boxer better be incredible.
 
# 6 Motown @ 03/27/09 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
I gotta agree. You dont have the top 2 heavyweights in Boxing? The only two that matter right now? Cmon. But they put James Toney in the game. You cant tell me they couldnt have signed someone like Arreola to help beef up the heavys.

All I'll say is Create a Boxer better be incredible.
It's GOTTA be a licensing issue or royalties or both...sucks tho.
 
# 7 aholbert32 @ 03/27/09 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thelwig14
I don't have much faith in the CAB as the trunks on the real fighters are grossly off. Just zero accountability...it is just brutal.

The ****ing Klitschkos were in Knockout Kings 2002...hell, the Fight Nights haven't even gotten close to the rosters of the Knockout Kings games.

The Klitschkos, Nipples, and Haye 100% should be in the game.

EA has no business/market sense. You capture a much larger international market and move more units with the above 4 fighters...which all could be licensed on the cheap.
Maybe I'm different but if I had to choose between Foreman (who you know costs a ton) or Vlad and Vitali..I'm taking the brothers. I like the older fighters but current fighters should be more than half of the roster. Current fighters make up less than 20 percent of heavys (I'm not counting Toney because he hasnt been a real fighter in years).

Do you know how many copies they would sell in Europe with Haye and the Klitschkos? A ton.
 
# 8 Complex @ 03/27/09 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
Maybe I'm different but if I had to choose between Foreman (who you know costs a ton) or Vlad and Vitali..I'm taking the brothers. I like the older fighters but current fighters should be more than half of the roster. Current fighters make up less than 20 percent of heavys (I'm not counting Toney because he hasnt been a real fighter in years).

Do you know how many copies they would sell in Europe with Haye and the Klitschkos? A ton.
I would love to see Haye. You never know what the story is behind signing a fighter to a game or the time line involved.
 
# 9 DavonBrown @ 03/27/09 10:45 PM
Is it just me, or does James Toney look terrible. He looked exactly like himself in Round 3 though. Will they be releasing the other weight classes like this?
 
# 10 slip3rman @ 03/27/09 11:07 PM
hmmm...yeah that's a pretty weak roster. Fast Eddie Chambers as the only current boxer on that list..that's cool. They might as well call this game Legends of Boxing.

And isn't the last remaining heavyweight Tommy Morrison? Very disappointing roster.
 
# 11 sva91 @ 03/27/09 11:08 PM
Why do Tyson and Ali have their short shorts, yet Foreman and Frazier are wearing freaking Memphis Tigers Shorts???
 
# 12 allBthere @ 03/27/09 11:24 PM
Well I'm not super happy about the list, but the CAP - IF you can put them in the division w/o your control could save it easily. This is like All-pro football, because w/ boxing you have to go out and get different fighters and their promoters etc... that's the major advantage the UFC game devs have is that total access - imagine if boxing was organized into one dominant league. It would be slightly less exciting because the confusion adds to the controversy imo and they cross organizations anyway - it's really just a wonky ratings system - but it lacks that cohesive power to just walk in and have all the guys on the same page.

I thought a roster of 40 guys for a boxing game is quite good, but you guys are right, if most of them are from yesteryear it makes things a little more awkward - the suspension of disbelief suffers...
 
# 13 Darxide @ 03/28/09 12:40 AM
From talking to Brizzo, I got the idea that if a known fighter isn't in the game, it's the fighter's (or his management team's) fault.

And more importantly, I've never cared much about the roster in a boxing game anyway, and never understood why it was a big deal to boxing gamers- career mode is where it's at. Hell, the best two boxing games on the planet (VB2 victorious road and Boxer's Road 2) have fictional cartoon boxers (VB2), and a bunch of Asian fighters no one has ever heard of (BR2).
 
# 14 TequILLa @ 03/28/09 08:09 AM
The Create a Boxer is coo for some (CAB), but the fighter actually being in the game is just way better because you have the likeness of him there style, defense things like that. I have a funny feeling that they took some people out for DLC, which I don't mine paying for because they had to pay individually. Don't be surprise if they don't have Mayweather right off, you know he wants that money, so DLC him. But EA dropped the ball on the Heavyweights they do have. But the DLC is just a hunch for me, if they don't have it this sucks
 
# 15 Darxide @ 03/28/09 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TequILLa
The Create a Boxer is coo for some (CAB), but the fighter actually being in the game is just way better because you have the likeness of him there style, defense things like that. I have a funny feeling that they took some people out for DLC, which I don't mine paying for because they had to pay individually. Don't be surprise if they don't have Mayweather right off, you know he wants that money, so DLC him. But EA dropped the ball on the Heavyweights they do have. But the DLC is just a hunch for me, if they don't have it this sucks
We asked Brizzo about DLC fighters. He said that it was something they wouldn't rule out, but the CAB feature is so robust, would most people pay money for a boxer they could create to a workable likeness?

It's tough to get fighters in a game. It's a lot of money and politics involved.
 
# 16 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Darxide
From talking to Brizzo, I got the idea that if a known fighter isn't in the game, it's the fighter's (or his management team's) fault.

And more importantly, I've never cared much about the roster in a boxing game anyway, and never understood why it was a big deal to boxing gamers- career mode is where it's at. Hell, the best two boxing games on the planet (VB2 victorious road and Boxer's Road 2) have fictional cartoon boxers (VB2), and a bunch of Asian fighters no one has ever heard of (BR2).

I gotta disagree with that. We all know that EA has a set budget on what they can spend on the roster. We all know that signing guys like Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frazier and maybe De La Hoya isnt cheap. What I question is which fighters they are spending money on. I think most would rather have Vlad than Foreman. I would rather have Arreola or Haye than Morrison.

I like career mode but I play plenty of exhibition games, online games and games against my friends. I'll probably do career mode once and the rest of the time is me fighting the cpu using real or created boxers. For me, a roster matters.
 
# 17 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TequILLa
The Create a Boxer is coo for some (CAB), but the fighter actually being in the game is just way better because you have the likeness of him there style, defense things like that. I have a funny feeling that they took some people out for DLC, which I don't mine paying for because they had to pay individually. Don't be surprise if they don't have Mayweather right off, you know he wants that money, so DLC him. But EA dropped the ball on the Heavyweights they do have. But the DLC is just a hunch for me, if they don't have it this sucks

I wouldnt hold my breath for DLC.
 
# 18 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by allBthere
Well I'm not super happy about the list, but the CAP - IF you can put them in the division w/o your control could save it easily. This is like All-pro football, because w/ boxing you have to go out and get different fighters and their promoters etc... that's the major advantage the UFC game devs have is that total access - imagine if boxing was organized into one dominant league. It would be slightly less exciting because the confusion adds to the controversy imo and they cross organizations anyway - it's really just a wonky ratings system - but it lacks that cohesive power to just walk in and have all the guys on the same page.

I thought a roster of 40 guys for a boxing game is quite good, but you guys are right, if most of them are from yesteryear it makes things a little more awkward - the suspension of disbelief suffers...

Great post.
 
# 19 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Darxide
We asked Brizzo about DLC fighters. He said that it was something they wouldn't rule out, but the CAB feature is so robust, would most people pay money for a boxer they could create to a workable likeness?

It's tough to get fighters in a game. It's a lot of money and politics involved.

I guess the question is "Is it really robust". EA said the same thing with FN3 and I wouldnt call CAB in that game "robust". One thing that makes the WWE Smackdown series impressive is that its CAW is good enough that you can add almost anyone.
 
# 20 Darxide @ 03/28/09 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aholbert32
I guess the question is "Is it really robust". EA said the same thing with FN3 and I wouldnt call CAB in that game "robust". One thing that makes the WWE Smackdown series impressive is that its CAW is good enough that you can add almost anyone.
Just adding the face feature with the camera is good enough for me. It pretty much allows to put put any fighter in the game you want.

EA really did try to get a ton of fighters- as for budget, it's worth it to pay guys like Ali and Foreman gobs of cash for thier likeness. Is it worth it (or fair) to pay the same amounts of money for David Haye? Heck no. Fighters like that should be begging EA to add them for free. In fact, there were some fighters that did just that, and ended up in the game. Also, consider that since there are more weightclasses this time around, their budget is going to be stretched this time around.
 

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