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"What does it mean to bring an 8th man into the box? If you're looking for the correct answer, you're more likely to receive it from an EA SPORTS Madden NFL player than from someone who doesn’t play Madden. EA SPORTS, a label of Electronic Arts Inc., (NASDAQ: ERTS), announced today the results of a new survey by the University of Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center, that determined fans who play the Madden NFL video game series are more knowledgeable about the game of football than people who don’t play the game. The survey found that Madden NFL players’ football IQ was 60 percent higher than people that don’t play Madden.

The study, which surveyed over 15,000 EA SPORTS Madden NFL players and NFL fans, tested respondents in five categories of football knowledge: Game Situations, General Knowledge, History, Rules and Business of Sport.

“It’s amazing to see how much football knowledge Madden NFL players have especially when you compare it to people that follow and know the sport well,” said Paul Swangard, Managing Director of the Warsaw Sports Marketing Center at the University of Oregon. “We also found the more time they spent playing EA SPORTS Madden NFL the higher they scored on the survey."

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# 1 BezO @ 01/21/09 01:09 PM
LOL! IMO, there's not much football strategy involved in Madden. I think Madden does more damage to one's football IQ, especially if it wasn't high to begin with. Most of what works on Sundays doesn't work in Madden, and most of what works in Madden doesn't work on Sundays.
 
# 2 Steven123 @ 01/21/09 02:28 PM
Really? Madden is a game where you can literally do the same play over and over and gain positive yardage. Madden is a game where A POCKET doesn't exist, stepping up gets you sacked, always. Madden is a game were you don't need to look for a gap when rushing the ball, all you have to do is run outside and smash on the turbo, then hit stick.
 
# 3 IStillDoWhatIDo @ 01/21/09 02:42 PM
As much as I know we all want to jump on this, I agree that madden helps you understand things. Different formations, both offensively, and defensively, I know because of madden. I can see them translate on the field in real life.
 
# 4 countryboy @ 01/21/09 02:53 PM


This is going to be good.

 
# 5 bigsmallwood @ 01/21/09 03:09 PM
Playing Madden actually does improve your Football IQ. While flawed, the game is the closes NEXT GEN title that we have to NFL football. And other than cheaters who try and run the same play over and over, there is nothing (except bad presentation/commentary) That is wrong with the game. And if you call the right defense, you can stop the cheesers.
 
# 6 JBH3 @ 01/21/09 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
LOL! IMO, there's not much football strategy involved in Madden. I think Madden does more damage to one's football IQ, especially if it wasn't high to begin with. Most of what works on Sundays doesn't work in Madden, and most of what works in Madden doesn't work on Sundays.
This is partly true if you're a casual gamer, but if you try and play as much SIM (oxymoron) as possible w/ Madden I can see it increasing your football IQ.

Following sports, AND playing sports video games regularly definitely increases your 'Sports' IQ.
 
# 7 bcruise @ 01/21/09 03:20 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that the first few years I played Madden (keep in mind this is 1994-95 territory) helped me understand the game and how plays worked a little better (I was about 10 or 11 at the time). In that sense, this statement is correct, and over the years it's probably gotten a lot easier for newcomers to understand as the graphics and AI (yes, really) have improved.

But the same can be said of any sports games, of course.
 
# 8 oldskoolmaddenfanz27 @ 01/21/09 03:27 PM
they can trot out whatever survey they want, i know that its had the exact opposite effect on my younger siblings who think madden way as well be a different sport then what they see on TV on sundays.
 
# 9 BezO @ 01/21/09 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JBH3
This is partly true if you're a casual gamer, but if you try and play as much SIM (oxymoron) as possible w/ Madden I can see it increasing your football IQ.

Following sports, AND playing sports video games regularly definitely increases your 'Sports' IQ.
I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. I doubt I've played more than 30 games of Madden since Madden '05, but I would also enjoy sim play if it were possible.

IMO, sim play is impossible on Madden. Fundamental aspects of the game are missing. In my experience, there's not much you can do to make Madden sim unless your idea of sim is simply a realistic outcome(score/yardage).

Outside of some basics like rules and terminology, I'm not sure what anyone could learn from Madden. The strategy needed to excel in Madden is not the same as the strategy needed during an NFL football game.

Can you give an example of something you've learned from Madden outside of rules & terminology?
 
# 10 rainesdaddy @ 01/22/09 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. I doubt I've played more than 30 games of Madden since Madden '05, but I would also enjoy sim play if it were possible.

IMO, sim play is impossible on Madden. Fundamental aspects of the game are missing. In my experience, there's not much you can do to make Madden sim unless your idea of sim is simply a realistic outcome(score/yardage).

Outside of some basics like rules and terminology, I'm not sure what anyone could learn from Madden. The strategy needed to excel in Madden is not the same as the strategy needed during an NFL football game.

Can you give an example of something you've learned from Madden outside of rules & terminology?
Cant give you anything ive learned, pretty knowledgeable. but my wife on the other hand, from watching me play occasionally, so that she may attend games without askin stupid questions there,LOL,learned alot. she learned things like concepts, what the specific defenses are suppose to do, why they are called in certain situations, hell why they're called period, player responsibility, she learned to read some defenses based on keys. what offenses are tryin to do, the different types of offenses. there's much you can learn, what we (serious gamers) get caught up in are the flaws the game may have, and what we want it to be, no the game will not be close to real life, thats the same as goin to a movie and expecting action scenes to be realistic. the game will and can teach you some basic principles to set a foundation for learning the game.just my opinion.
 
# 11 matt8204 @ 01/22/09 01:31 PM
I've always wondered how many HS quarterbacks play Madden and try to mimick what they see in the video game when they're playing for real. Can you imagine the look on a head coach's face when a kid tries to chuck the ball into triple coverage, expecting his receiver to leap up and make a one-handed rocket catch over the defenders?

What the hell were you thinking?!

He said he had a 99 jump rating, coach!
 
# 12 JBH3 @ 01/22/09 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. I doubt I've played more than 30 games of Madden since Madden '05, but I would also enjoy sim play if it were possible.

IMO, sim play is impossible on Madden. Fundamental aspects of the game are missing. In my experience, there's not much you can do to make Madden sim unless your idea of sim is simply a realistic outcome(score/yardage).

Outside of some basics like rules and terminology, I'm not sure what anyone could learn from Madden. The strategy needed to excel in Madden is not the same as the strategy needed during an NFL football game.

Can you give an example of something you've learned from Madden outside of rules & terminology?
As of Madden 09 I can't tell you anything I'VE learned, but when I first started playing Madden in the mid/late 90's it taught me some things about the game of football.

I guess you can say my idea of 'sim' w/ Madden09 is a realistic score/outcome.

The CPU AI doesn't doesn't really have any 'I' so I can see what you're saying when it comes to getting 'sim' results from the CPU.
 
# 13 kcarr @ 01/22/09 06:31 PM
I have learned quite a bit from madden.

First off, it is senseless for these NFL quarterbacks mostly stick to these 3, 5, and 7 step drops. What they really should be doing is running back 20 yards and chucking the ball downfield.

I have also learned that weight has no relavence whatsoever when blocking and tackling. A 150 lb running back can easily run over a 300 lb defensive lineman or can easily pancake block them.

Coverage is irellavent as long as you throw a high bullet pass so the reciever can so a one handed rocket catch.

Also, I have learned that a pass over the middle cannot be throw high enough that any linebacker in the world can't jump up and intercept it.

I also learned any that NFL football player can run full speed in one direction and turn 180 degrees and run full speed in the other direction.

They can also running full speed jump in the opposit direction they were running or jump straight up in the air and their leaping ability won't be affected at all by this.

Thanks to madden my football IQ is now through the roof
 
# 14 BezO @ 01/23/09 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by grunt
Over the last 10 years....coverages, fronts, bunch sets, and`blitz packages
The terminology & how they look or when to actually use them?

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Originally Posted by rainesdaddy
...she learned things like concepts, what the specific defenses are suppose to do, why they are called in certain situations, hell why they're called period, player responsibility, she learned to read some defenses based on keys. what offenses are tryin to do, the different types of offenses...
Really? I find that Madden strategy often contridicts what would work on Sundays, and players don't key on what their real life counterparts key on.

Did she learn from Madden or did you teach her using Madden? Does she play? Does she actually experience particular strategies working in appropriate situations?

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Originally Posted by rainesdaddy
...there's much you can learn, what we (serious gamers) get caught up in are the flaws the game may have, and what we want it to be, no the game will not be close to real life, thats the same as goin to a movie and expecting action scenes to be realistic. the game will and can teach you some basic principles to set a foundation for learning the game.just my opinion.
I'd agree there's some terminology to learn, what a particular formation looks like, what a particular defense looks like, ect. But from my experience, Madden strategy goes against conventional wisdom. Those ARE the flaws I'm concerned with.

But other games are much closer to real life. NBA 2K9 is not perfect, but it looks & moves like basketball. Pick & rolls accomplish what you would expect, screens, double teams, ect. Compared to Madden where there's no trap on trap plays, no pocket, no outside rush, ect. I feel other sports games capture the essence & foundation of the sport. Madden doesn't.



I guess my point is that for every peice of terminology learned, there are several strategic lessons that misinform the user. IMO, Madden does more damage to ones football IQ.
 
# 15 thudias @ 01/23/09 10:29 AM
Of course it does..no question.
 
# 16 Exonerated @ 01/24/09 04:47 AM
Also. Watching football improves your football IQ. Playing football improves your football IQ.

Shocking!

Like this is really news?

Going to an art gallery imrpoves your art IQ?
 
# 17 speedkills @ 01/24/09 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kcarr
I have learned quite a bit from madden.

First off, it is senseless for these NFL quarterbacks mostly stick to these 3, 5, and 7 step drops. What they really should be doing is running back 20 yards and chucking the ball downfield.

I have also learned that weight has no relavence whatsoever when blocking and tackling. A 150 lb running back can easily run over a 300 lb defensive lineman or can easily pancake block them.

Coverage is irellavent as long as you throw a high bullet pass so the reciever can so a one handed rocket catch.

Also, I have learned that a pass over the middle cannot be throw high enough that any linebacker in the world can't jump up and intercept it.

I also learned any that NFL football player can run full speed in one direction and turn 180 degrees and run full speed in the other direction.

They can also running full speed jump in the opposit direction they were running or jump straight up in the air and their leaping ability won't be affected at all by this.

Thanks to madden my football IQ is now through the roof
Damn you, you beat me to it.

^ what he said.

I learned that this off season I can expect my team to sign either Tom Brady or Peyton Manning in free agency since both of their teams will run out of cap space and decide to release their franchise QBs.
 
# 18 LL-Cool-P @ 01/24/09 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Exonerated
Also. Watching football improves your football IQ. Playing football improves your football IQ.

Shocking!

Like this is really news?

lol, I hear ya!
 
# 19 Blkcanes @ 01/24/09 05:44 PM
I think playing football improves your "Football IQ" I'm sure most of us that have played Madden or NCAA for that matter have played some high school football which as helped out greatly. I could be wrong. I've been playing football since the age of 3 and I've been a fan of it ever since (19 now) so like somebody said the more you watch Football the more your "Football IQ" should end up going up not just based on Madden.
 
# 20 rainesdaddy @ 01/25/09 12:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BezO
The terminology & how they look or when to actually use them?

Really? I find that Madden strategy often contridicts what would work on Sundays, and players don't key on what their real life counterparts key on.

Did she learn from Madden or did you teach her using Madden? Does she play? Does she actually experience particular strategies working in appropriate situations?

I'd agree there's some terminology to learn, what a particular formation looks like, what a particular defense looks like, ect. But from my experience, Madden strategy goes against conventional wisdom. Those ARE the flaws I'm concerned with.

But other games are much closer to real life. NBA 2K9 is not perfect, but it looks & moves like basketball. Pick & rolls accomplish what you would expect, screens, double teams, ect. Compared to Madden where there's no trap on trap plays, no pocket, no outside rush, ect. I feel other sports games capture the essence & foundation of the sport. Madden doesn't.



I guess my point is that for every peice of terminology learned, there are several strategic lessons that misinform the user. IMO, Madden does more damage to ones football IQ.
For the last time it is a VIDEO GAME. football is not as simple as basketball. madden also looks and moves like football, though it may play the way we would like for it to play. and of course she learned from my explanations, what did you ever learn without some instruction from someone or something, all the article is sayin is it can be used as a tool. again, not for those who know the game but for those who are learning the game. lastly, when pixels begin to react on their own midplay to whats happenning to make a play, as opposed to what they are PROGRAMMED to do, then i will agree with most of your assessment, till then i cant, i think you expect to much from ARTIFICIAL intelligence.
 

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