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Shawn Drotar over at 5W-G has posted a very interesting article called EA's bobbled the ball - will it still make the catch?.

Quote:
"Whether these games can be “patched” or not is only partially germane to the discussion. It’s simply not realistic or proper for EA - or any other developer, for that matter - to expect its customers to purchase essentially unfinished products and hold to the hopes that said company will eventually deliver the complete experience. Nobody went to see “The Dark Knight” last weekend hoping that the film’s climax would turn up in mid-September."

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# 1 thmst30 @ 07/25/08 12:23 AM
SEE OS. This is all were asking for, something like this. I love reading Shawn's articles.
 
# 2 ehh @ 07/25/08 01:40 AM
Wonderful article, nice to see OS post a link to it.
 
# 3 Herky @ 07/25/08 02:08 AM
Great read.
 
# 4 Sausage @ 07/25/08 03:01 AM
Good article, indeed.
 
# 5 poster @ 07/25/08 07:53 AM
Great article by Shawn.
 
# 6 callmetaternuts @ 07/25/08 08:01 AM
It's an interesting article, and i think mirrors what most of us feel. The question is, will enough people reflect and voice the same opinion to make a difference
 
# 7 edaddy @ 07/25/08 11:19 AM
Excellent article and he communicates alot of the frustration that people are feeling with this game..It simply seems like a unfinished product that was rushed out the door in order to accomodate Madden...The big kicker is that some Ea reps don't see anything wrong with the gameplay..and seem to think that the issues are only being relayed by a couple of negative people on this board..when overwhelmingly it's quite the opposite...Reps if you are on this board please read the article..it's the truth
 
# 8 Rules @ 07/25/08 04:51 PM
I have always enjoyed Shawn's articles. One of the few who still tells it like he sees it. He is also in touch with the gamers which has been lacking here for some time now.
 
# 9 CMH @ 07/25/08 08:46 PM
I tell you this, this on-going issue with sports video games has seriously begun to turn me off on sports games. It's gotten to the point where I worry if I'll even be able to contribute to the writing on this site. How can I write what I don't play?

I have no interest in basketball games this fall. No interest in baseball games next Spring. Football games this summer? Please. I'll buy Head Coach and it better be good or there goes that genre in next-gen.

I'm done. Nothing about these games excites me anymore. It's the same glaring issues with every title and every developer.

And I don't say this to encourage others to join me. Oh no. I don't need to encourage. It'll just happen. You'll all get tired eventually and then what?
 
# 10 ASB37 @ 07/26/08 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by YankeePride
I tell you this, this on-going issue with sports video games has seriously begun to turn me off on sports games. It's gotten to the point where I worry if I'll even be able to contribute to the writing on this site. How can I write what I don't play?

I have no interest in basketball games this fall. No interest in baseball games next Spring. Football games this summer? Please. I'll buy Head Coach and it better be good or there goes that genre in next-gen.

I'm done. Nothing about these games excites me anymore. It's the same glaring issues with every title and every developer.

And I don't say this to encourage others to join me. Oh no. I don't need to encourage. It'll just happen. You'll all get tired eventually and then what?
I see where your coming from and i feel i may be joining you very shortly lol.
 
# 11 joshuar9476 @ 07/26/08 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ASB37
I see where your coming from and i feel i may be joining you very shortly lol.
for me it's the fact that one only company may put out a baseball game per system. so because mlb2k8 doesn't do it for me, i'm stuck playing mvp2k5 on the pc.
 
# 12 Bahnzo @ 07/26/08 05:24 PM
This isn't just a trend that is going on with sports games, but all video games. Now that companies have the ability to patch games, no longer do they feel it necessary to deliver a finished product. Can't meet your deadline? No problem, just patch it later. Never mind that not everyone who owns a console has it connected to the internet to get those patches.

Until someone or some group can actually get together and file a suit against a company and prove they deliberately released a game they knew needed a patch, this will only continue to be standard operating procedure.

How much longer before patches cost 400 MS points? Don't scoff at that....I wouldn't put it past a company to try and pull that one off.
 
# 13 maddenps2 @ 07/26/08 08:05 PM
The game will sell millions regardless of buggy releases for two main reasons. EA has a huge fan base is number one. Two, since Ea owns the NCAA license probably for the distant future, there will be no competition, and absolutely no choice for NCAA gamers besides the EA NCAA Series. This is also true for Madden, and soon enough the NBA *take 2 buyout. and maybe even the MLB.

Quite Possible in the Next year, the face of sports gaming, as monopolized as it is already, will be even more monopolized. More likely than not, we will only have one chioce of all the major sports games for the rest of our gaming lives, a sad dose of reality. Even if EA delivers top notch sports games the fact that we will only have one choice, no competition, or alternate innovations is very disturbing to me.
 
# 14 JohnDoe8865 @ 07/27/08 02:47 PM
Shawn always delivers with his honest, no-nonsense articles. Great job Shawn.
 
# 15 CMH @ 07/27/08 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maddenps2
The game will sell millions regardless of buggy releases for two main reasons. EA has a huge fan base is number one. Two, since Ea owns the NCAA license probably for the distant future, there will be no competition, and absolutely no choice for NCAA gamers besides the EA NCAA Series. This is also true for Madden, and soon enough the NBA *take 2 buyout. and maybe even the MLB.

Quite Possible in the Next year, the face of sports gaming, as monopolized as it is already, will be even more monopolized. More likely than not, we will only have one chioce of all the major sports games for the rest of our gaming lives, a sad dose of reality. Even if EA delivers top notch sports games the fact that we will only have one choice, no competition, or alternate innovations is very disturbing to me.
Let's be careful here, though. It's easy to say that EA controlling a certain license is the reason why video games are heading in this direction. If we acknowledge that EA is at fault then we must acknowledge that other developers are just as much at fault. It's not EA pulling the strings on the games they don't develop.

EA gets most of the blame because of their size and power but this has been a trend for years with all developers.
 
# 16 Graphik @ 07/28/08 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeePride
I tell you this, this on-going issue with sports video games has seriously begun to turn me off on sports games. It's gotten to the point where I worry if I'll even be able to contribute to the writing on this site. How can I write what I don't play?

I have no interest in basketball games this fall. No interest in baseball games next Spring. Football games this summer? Please. I'll buy Head Coach and it better be good or there goes that genre in next-gen.

I'm done. Nothing about these games excites me anymore. It's the same glaring issues with every title and every developer.

And I don't say this to encourage others to join me. Oh no. I don't need to encourage. It'll just happen. You'll all get tired eventually and then what?

I almost feel the same way. I've pretty much written off all hope of sports gaming altogether and will detour my interest in non sports gaming because most of those titles aren't restricted to release date issues and licensing prolems.

I still remember the glory days no less than 6 years ago when gamers had a wealth of options to choose from and believe it or not, there was something to suit everyones taste. Now, its like if you want to play NFL football, you're absolutely forced to enjoy the one and only NFL game on the planet right now. It almost gives you a false sense of hope that one will get they're moneys worth.

I was just having a discussion yesterday with 3 friends and we're all going to buy Madden. Not because we want to but because we have to if we want to play with updated rosters and not get left behind with the rest of the world. 2 of those friends are avid Madden players and even they admit that this EA takeover is'nt good for sports gaming.
 
# 17 trobinson97 @ 07/28/08 12:30 PM
Great article.
 

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