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Next Generation has posted an interesting article entitled, EA Sports: It's Time For a Change.

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"Peter Moore wants to change things at EA Sports. I mean, he wants to actually Change Things. Sports fans don’t like change. We like things the way they are. It’s time for Colin Campbell to go see this Moore fellow and find out what the hell is going on. Follow me fellas…"

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# 1 bkfount @ 03/27/08 09:16 AM
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“What we’ve got to do to grow the market is bring in the football fans, that own high def TVs, that love football, and yet don’t enjoy our games because they see them as too hard. "
um, wow...
 
# 2 bkfount @ 03/27/08 09:47 AM
well I mean, a game like forza is complex and is for a specifc type of racing fan. Burnout Paradise is basically holding the gas button and steering through streets. Both are still fun, although one is obviously easier.

It's just that I don't see many people complaining about madden being hard. Out of all the things to mention about their sports games, he chooses to highlight that they want to make them more appealing to people who get turned off by controllers having more than two buttons. This is just a move to make more money as you said, not to make their games better.
 
# 3 SageInfinite @ 03/27/08 10:22 AM
Wow. Too Hard? Well their goes any that EA was going to start taking football more seriously.
 
# 4 BrianFifaFan @ 03/27/08 11:40 AM
Yeah, not wanting to hear this. I was really hoping that Madden would up it's controllability (word?) like Fifa and NHL did. And it scares me that he seems to be a Wii lover. I just don't get it. He seemed to really be impressed when the new Fifa engine was rolled out. Or maybe it was just that they had that fake exclusivity deal for 360. I'm at the point that very few sports games are really holding my interest for long. Other genres seem to really making strides in "next-gen" gaming. 2k is the king of broken games and might soon be gone and outside of the aforementioned Fifa and Nhl EA is really laying some turds this gen. Nascar, B-ball and football are lame. Madden is making strides but the engine is broken. Not amount of tuning is going to make it a true next-gen game. It, like MLB2k needs an entirely new engine. Oh well, I can save my money, I guess. And Puja can keep me set with new 2k5 rosters. Please....
 
# 5 savoie2006 @ 03/27/08 11:41 AM
I don't think they are talking gameplay itself.From what I read it sounds like they want to do with all it's sports games what the NHL series has done and try and concentrate on using the analogs and maybe a button or two.They want to make the controls easier to grasp for all gamers.I don't expect them to make drastic changes in the gameplay.
 
# 6 allBthere @ 03/27/08 12:27 PM
I want a new engine..i want gameplay to completely change. Compell me to play an entire game instead of reaching for te 'simulate' button.
 
# 7 umd @ 03/27/08 12:33 PM
ugh. what a depressing article. Even more depressing if 2K is gone and EA wants to "dumb down" every sports franchise.
 
# 8 spit_bubble @ 03/27/08 01:02 PM
What a freakin' moron...

"The NFL wanted the exclusive. This was not EA, nothing to do with EA whatsoever. If you think back to when the deal was done, the [football games] business was in a mess. Pricing was all over the place, quality was all over the place..."

Seems he can't just admit NFL 2K5 was taking Madden to school.

And to those who haven't read the article, let me save you some time: Peter Moore wants EA Sports to earn more money.

Wow, how noble.
 
# 9 nxt @ 03/27/08 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
ugh. what a depressing article. Even more depressing if 2K is gone and EA wants to "dumb down" every sports franchise.
You said it... that was one depressing article. Dude is so out of touch with the fanbase it's not even funny... "but it's a great business decision, right."
 
# 10 ryanh04 @ 03/27/08 01:58 PM
I agree with cook nfl 2k5 beat madden like a red headed step child.. I'm a hardcore madden gamer but now I can't even play cause it seems Ea takes one step forward and two steps back.. I hope Moore does something good for the madden franchise.. Then when I read it was too hard to play madden.. I asked myself if that was a joke or are they serious!!

~DK~ PS2/X360 Gamer..
 
# 11 BrianFifaFan @ 03/27/08 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by savoie2006
I don't think they are talking gameplay itself.From what I read it sounds like they want to do with all it's sports games what the NHL series has done and try and concentrate on using the analogs and maybe a button or two.They want to make the controls easier to grasp for all gamers.I don't expect them to make drastic changes in the gameplay.
I agree thats the main gist. But I'm actually a proponent of more button/stick use. Of using all of the buttons to have more control. That, to me, is an advancement in gameplay. He appears to have a vision of the A/B button tilt concept of the Wii and making NFL party games. I'm just afraid that his vision of growing the mass market appeal of EA Sports games will come at the expense of making more realistic, more "sim" games. Can anyone say NFL Tour? It was panned. And honestly, I never even considered NFL Street, as I don't feel a desire to play NBA Street or Fifa Street. I just want EA Sports to finally get their tired slogan right; "if its in the game, it's in the game." Fifa08 and NHL08, while not perfect, are examples that show EA can get things going in the right direction.
 
# 12 PAPERNUT @ 03/27/08 02:29 PM
Did you just see the new bundle for the Anniversary? 2 games for $89 will be seen as a value to those that are not so hardcore or have followed EAs lack of innovation over the last few years. People will eat that up and they will sell more copies than they did over last year for sure. Peter Moore has done his job and EA will still make their money, just not from me. Enough said!
 
# 13 coogrfan @ 03/27/08 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CookooForCocoa
What a freakin' moron...

"The NFL wanted the exclusive. This was not EA, nothing to do with EA whatsoever. If you think back to when the deal was done, the [football games] business was in a mess. Pricing was all over the place, quality was all over the place..."

Seems he can't just admit NFL 2K5 was taking Madden to school.

And to those who haven't read the article, let me save you some time: Peter Moore wants EA Sports to earn more money.

Wow, how noble.
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Originally Posted by ryanh04
I agree with cook nfl 2k5 beat madden like a red headed step child.. I'm a hardcore madden gamer but now I can't even play cause it seems Ea takes one step forward and two steps back.. I hope Moore does something good for the madden franchise.. Then when I read it was too hard to play madden.. I asked myself if that was a joke or are they serious!!

~DK~ PS2/X360 Gamer..
*sigh*

It's going to be a long spring/summer.
 
# 14 SidVish @ 03/27/08 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by papernut
Did you just see the new bundle for the Anniversary? 2 games for $89 will be seen as a value to those that are not so hardcore or have followed EAs lack of innovation over the last few years. People will eat that up and they will sell more copies than they did over last year for sure. Peter Moore has done his job and EA will still make their money, just not from me. Enough said!
I just saw that it includes NFL Head Coach as well. You're right people are gonna eat this up and this way they'll also sell many more copies of Head Coach and make almost $100.00 for each bundle sold. Ugh!

http://www.pastapadre.com/2482/madde...dition-details

Madden's too hard? Good call Moore.
 
# 15 yamabushi @ 03/27/08 03:26 PM
“You do that by having easier menus, more intuitive gameplay. People are intimidated by the controller. They walk past the TV and if you say ‘hey, do you want to play’, they say ‘No, I just don’t want to make a fool of myself’."

“There are too many buttons and triggers and d-pads. We’ve got to break a lot of that down.”


Everybody enjoy 'EA Family Play: Its the only way to play'.
 
# 16 Sausage @ 03/27/08 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nxt
You said it... that was one depressing article. Dude is so out of touch with the fanbase it's not even funny... "but it's a great business decision, right."
I dumber for reading it and then thinking they will "up there presentation and gameplay"; but low and behold they are "downing there presentation and gameplay". Damn I think I am glad that I still held on to Madden 05, NCAA 06 and 07, and All Pro 2k8. I hope APF 2K9 miraculously comes out and Backbreaker is really brakes EA's franchise. Pipe dream I know they will sell millions, but I will be one less. Peace.

Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out to be the game we wanted and they are pulling our legs with all this casual 1 or 2 button gameplay BS.
 
# 17 Kramer5150 @ 03/27/08 03:33 PM
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“The NFL wanted the exclusive. This was not EA, nothing to do with EA whatsoever.
This is just an outright lie.
It's already been shown that EA were the ones to approach the NFL about going exclusive.

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“What we’ve got to do to grow the market is bring in the football fans, that own high def TVs, that love football, and yet don’t enjoy our games because they see them as too hard. Now the strategy we have here is to maintain our core consumer, but we’ve also got to go out and captivate the masses.

“You do that by having easier menus, more intuitive gameplay. People are intimidated by the controller. They walk past the TV and if you say ‘hey, do you want to play’, they say ‘No, I just don’t want to make a fool of myself’.

“There are too many buttons and triggers and d-pads. We’ve got to break a lot of that down.”
This is just pure comedy....he goes on this "spiel" about controllers and button's and what-not.....but eludes the fact that the actual core gameplay in Madden in flawed.
I'm willing to bet alot of cats gave up on Madden this year NOT because of the controller having "to many buttons"....but from the lackluster gamplay.
I mean c'mon now....how long did it take for us to get the sliders to a respectful level? January was it? I cannot remember a Madden game that took THAT long to get decent sliders.
 
# 18 EWRMETS @ 03/27/08 03:43 PM
You guys are so blinded with hate for EA that it's comical. Crying about how an executive of a company wants to make money. What do you expect him to want? His performance is based on EA making money. Live in the real world.

What's wrong with making games simpler? Isn't MLB 2008 pretty simple compared to the complicated and jumbled mess that is MLB2k8? It's possible to make games easier to play while keeping the games realistic and challenging. EA is smart enough to know that people that watch football on Sundays but don't play Madden would not want to play a simulation football game that plays like NFL Blitz. Non video game fans want easier controls.
 
# 19 ZM Punk @ 03/27/08 03:46 PM
I for one am a fan of the easier control scheme. NHL 08 is a perfect example that easier controls make games a lot more enjoyable. I'm sick of having to multiple things in a basketball game just to do a routine crossover.

I don't care how many buttons you have to use as long as it plays a good game.
 
# 20 SageInfinite @ 03/27/08 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EWRMETS
You guys are so blinded with hate for EA that it's comical. Crying about how an executive of a company wants to make money. What do you expect him to want? His performance is based on EA making money. Live in the real world.

What's wrong with making games simpler? Isn't MLB 2008 pretty simple compared to the complicated and jumbled mess that is MLB2k8? It's possible to make games easier to play while keeping the games realistic and challenging. EA is smart enough to know that people that watch football on Sundays but don't play Madden would not want to play a simulation football game that plays like NFL Blitz. Non video game fans want easier controls.
I agree with you about the controls. Complicated controls doesn't always mean better and more realistic. Especially with the example of the baseball games. This is EA we're talking about tho, lol.
 

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