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We have just posted our Forza Motorsport review. Find out what Mark Fossen has to say about it.
"In every console's lifetime, a few franchises come along that become defining titles: Nintendo's Mario and Zelda, Sega's Virtua Fighter and Sonic, Sony's Final Fantasy and Metal Gear. Microsoft's Xbox has been primarily defined by HALO, and has searched for another franchise that would drive console sales. One historical "killer app" for the PlayStation has been the Gran Turismo series, and while Microsoft tried to compete with Project Gotham, it didn't quite hit the mark as itís arcade leanings separated it from the hardcore that drive Turismoís sales and word of mouth."

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# 1 TCrouch @ 05/24/05 05:57 PM
Very, very good stuff. Hits on every major point that I can think of, and even a couple of things that I didn't think of.

Impressive, Mark. I think you sell yourself a bit short on the simracing front.
 
# 2 NYJets @ 05/24/05 06:45 PM
 
# 3 malrak @ 05/26/05 06:26 AM
Hmm... he points out the flaws and still gives it a perfect 5/5. Something not right about that.
 
# 4 Herbsinator @ 05/27/05 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by malrak
Hmm... he points out the flaws and still gives it a perfect 5/5. Something not right about that.
How so?
 
# 5 NYJets @ 05/27/05 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by malrak
Hmm... he points out the flaws and still gives it a perfect 5/5. Something not right about that.
"5/5 - A rare and singular achievement in sports gaming. A "must-buy" for any serious gamer."

Nowhere does that say it can't have any flaws.
 
# 6 Blackwiz @ 05/27/05 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NYJets
"5/5 - A rare and singular achievement in sports gaming. A "must-buy" for any serious gamer."

Nowhere does that say it can't have any flaws.



yea........every game, has to have flaws.
 
# 7 malrak @ 05/28/05 06:21 AM
Of course every game has flaws, and I love Forza dearly, I just have to question reviews that give perfect scores to games that have quite a few problems. Kinda like how IGN or whoever gave Gran Turismo a high score of 9.something, even though they went on about the poor AI, etc, etc...

Here the reviewer mentions the over-agressive AI, the underdeveloped drivatar feature, lackluster soundtrack, and what he calls the "supercar" flaw in online play.

The 4/5 suits this better.... 4/5 - An overall solid outing with few flaws. Worth purchasing for most gamers.


I just personally think reviewers are too liberal with the perfect 5/5 and 10/10 scores.

I love the game... it's all I play these days, but I think it has a few too many sloppy little problems to deserve a perfect score.
 
# 8 fossen @ 05/30/05 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by malrak
I just personally think reviewers are too liberal with the perfect 5/5 and 10/10 scores.
Out of 16 reviews at OS, I've given out two 5/5 scores: Burnout 3 and Forza. I don't think that's liberal at all.

Forza
is not perfect. No game is. But it, to me, satisfies the requirements for a 5/5 title.
 
# 9 jmood88 @ 05/31/05 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by malrak
Of course every game has flaws, and I love Forza dearly, I just have to question reviews that give perfect scores to games that have quite a few problems. Kinda like how IGN or whoever gave Gran Turismo a high score of 9.something, even though they went on about the poor AI, etc, etc...

Here the reviewer mentions the over-agressive AI, the underdeveloped drivatar feature, lackluster soundtrack, and what he calls the "supercar" flaw in online play.

The 4/5 suits this better.... 4/5 - An overall solid outing with few flaws. Worth purchasing for most gamers.


I just personally think reviewers are too liberal with the perfect 5/5 and 10/10 scores.

I love the game... it's all I play these days, but I think it has a few too many sloppy little problems to deserve a perfect score.
Did you read the review?
 
# 10 Shamrock_11 @ 06/04/05 01:30 AM
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I don't feel it's measuring enough of your individual driving style for it to be the amazing feature, and I really dislike the idea of training on specific courses and cars. If the "Drivitar" followed you around and learned from every race you ran, it would be a lot more useful.
Perhaps the reviewer missed the "Free Training" option in Drivatar. You can race any car in the game on any track in the game and your Drivatar will learn from that. If you only train your Drivatar on the five pre selected tracks then I can see why you think it's not reflecting your individual driving style. Train it fully on the rest of the tracks with the cars you want to race with, and it will drive EXACLTY like you.
 
# 11 fossen @ 06/04/05 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shamrock_11
Perhaps the reviewer missed the "Free Training" option in Drivatar. You can race any car in the game on any track in the game and your Drivatar will learn from that. If you only train your Drivatar on the five pre selected tracks then I can see why you think it's not reflecting your individual driving style. Train it fully on the rest of the tracks with the cars you want to race with, and it will drive EXACLTY like you.
Good point.

I still feel it would be a more useful feature if it simply learned as you raced in career mode, instead of as a separate feature.
 
# 12 elprez98 @ 06/05/05 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fossen
Out of 16 reviews at OS, I've given out two 5/5 scores: Burnout 3 and Forza. I don't think that's liberal at all.

Forza is not perfect. No game is. But it, to me, satisfies the requirements for a 5/5 title.
Don't sweat it man. I picked up this game as a rental based on your review, and I agree with EVERYTHING you wrote. It's a 5/5, on the real. Hmm, i thought the same of Burnout 3...


You might have decent jugdement afterall....
 

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