Anyone notice how WWE games have made no new innovations since NO MERCY?

[simgamer0005]

No mercy is great, but in terms of technical wrestling i'd put VPW 2 slightly ahead. that game even has an MMA mode.

My personal wrestling game of choice is Day of Reckoning 2. i don't think it gets any better than that fellas. That game is just amazing. I still play it whenever I can. The graphics are far superior to the N64 games. Also one area that DOR 2 is better then the N64 games is striking, blocking, and the collision detection of hits. Also as far as innovations, DOR 2 has a referee in the ring. that's huge in terms of realism for me. And it has Triple Threat and Fatal 4 Way Last Man Standing matches, a unique match type of DOR 2 that's not in any other wrestling game as far as i know.

With that said, I don't think anything has surpassed DOR 2. I liked SvR 06 and even some things about the later SvR games. (like starting in SvR 09 the ability to turn and spin around while running that wasn't in DOR) but each of those later SvR games had their issues and shortcomings, like limited movesets compared to SvR 06. i'm still trying to find some DOR 2 .gcs save files with old school WWF or even current WWE CAWs, but i haven't found any.

[dochalladay32]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedZoneD25

That's like slamming SmackDown! 2 for not having Know Your Enemy as the theme song. Of course it won't have something that wasn't a thing yet.

Not the point. Had Elimination Chamber existed, it is highly unlikely it would have been in given the lack of the cell. Cartridges just have a ridiculous number of limitations.

[Playmaker76]

This is an interesting time to bump the thread, because I wonder what innovations will be made with the jump to 2K.

[theCP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmaker76

This is an interesting time to bump the thread, because I wonder what innovations will be made with the jump to 2K.

It's being discussed at length here: WWE 2K14 Arrives This Fall, Five Year Deal Announced

[nate1986]

That is crazy to say, everyone has their personal favorite wrestling games if we look from no mercy to now, graphics have improved big time so much innovations have been added and imrpoved on, the creation suite is deep, we could never build our own arena, create stoires or have an infinite season mode, and 2k has alot to live up to with the rights to wwe now, hopefully it dont get mlb 2k'ed

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by dochalladay32

Not the point. Had Elimination Chamber existed, it is highly unlikely it would have been in given the lack of the cell. Cartridges just have a ridiculous number of limitations.

That still isn't a valid point to make dude. The power of two generations of consoles later isn't developer innovation. Hardware innovation? Yes. Software developer innovation? Hardly.

Obviously the OP is wrong because there has been innovation in the games since No Mercy with things like GM Mode, Universe, Create-An-Entrance, Create-A-Finisher, Community Creations, etc.

All that said your point of talking about had the Chamber existed and all of this makes little sense.

[wwefan]

It kinda like comparing Playstation to PS3.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by wwefan

It kinda like comparing Playstation to PS3.

Kinda, but not really. At least in comparing those two, its the same company, developing a new console. As the hardware developer, Sony making changes from Playstation to Playstation 2 to Playstation 3 can make innovations to their console releases because they're the ones making the console and are adding new things to each console. THQ isn't making consoles and are limited to whatever specs the current console they are developing for allows. It's not innovation on their part that they can add six players on screen because they're now developing for a console that has the power to do that. That's Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo's innovation, not THQ/Yukes.' It certainly isn't their innovation that the elimination chamber became a thing like three or four years after No Mercy was released during the life of a better class of systems. That's like taking away from WWF Super Wrestlemania for not having Stone Cold and The Rock and DX in it.

[PurePlayinSerb]

Quote: Originally Posted by dochalladay32

No Mercy had Hell in a Cell? Only a poor quality one with Gameshark. Did it have the Elimination Chamber? No. 6 people in the ring? Nope. Great visuals... ouch. Tacky short entrances and poor quality themes. It's editing, though, owns today's. If only we could have edited movesets back then without fooling around with a Gameshark. Absolutely great game and I still enjoy playing it today, but it is hard to look at knowing what we have today, no matter how poor it may seem at times.

does the games of today match the engine no mercy had? oh hell no

[Weedboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by PurePlayinSerb

does the games of today match the engine no mercy had? oh hell no

the best game is a tie between

1)king of coloseum 2 and fire pro returns

after that i guess it would be

2) virtual pro wrestling 2 and no mercy

3) then here comes the pain. i actually played this 10 minutes ago and am
playing the first smackdown vs raw as i type. i think the gameplay is abit better in svr but here comes the pain roster is too good

to the guy who likes dor2 you should try wrestle kingdom 2 for ps2. same engine but a slightly different reversal system and much better graphics. i found it hard to comprehend that a ps2 game looks better than a gamecube game but it does. actually all star pro wrestling 3 smokes all of these games in the graphics and animation dept still till this day. you all need to try king of coloseum 2. i really am convinced its better than anything else out. still true to this day.