EA Proposes to Acquire Take-Two Interactive Software

[Behindshadows]

Quote: Originally Posted by Brophog

I trimmed this merely to save space. The problem is, none of your "facts" argues the actual point of contention. I didn't argue lost jobs in my post to you. I didn't claim your ignorance that people wouldn't switch companies, or that 2K wasn't struggling, but I did claim your ignorance on how EA markets and develops products and how that effects us, as gamers. Specifcally I argued the point that CHANGE would occur because of this. Change in the form that this deal would bring together the good points of the two companies and result in this happy marriage of gameplay and features that will satisfy us gamers. I would appreciate it if in the future you read the posts carefully and argue what is posted. Because you read into a ton of things, and very little of your rebuttal is in any way addressing what I said. I'm rather specific, and therefore long winded, and I assure you that if I felt that EA was the devil incarnate, I would have put that in the first post.

Well I read it clearly and thoroughly but your not getting my point.

Either way, I won't lose sleep! Its not putting or taking any money out of my pocket.

If it does happen, no one will truly know if it will benefit us or not as gamers.

Majority of the post here and just fanboys of either side, speaking from the love they have for 2k and hatred for EA.

As a businessman, who's had to make decisions like this. I don't see it too much as a negative. Competition is bought out many times, but doesn't mean that the victor or buyer will total disrupt the market. Again it might be a good thing, and then again I might be wrong. I will admit I'm wrong sometimes! These are just my speculated opinions.

We all have opinions, and I won't knock anyones thought, my point was be open minded. And I wasn't just stating that to you, I was stating it as a whole. 3 years into Next-Gen, 2ksports has yet to give us a full next-gen sports title. EA has but their gameplay and presentation took a shot in the process! If we can get the two together where it counts, I really don't see that as a negative.

Either way, thanks to Take-Two handling 2ksports we've lost NFL and College Football, and College Basketball! How much longer is it such a good thing for the to have the 2ksports series. Eventually we'll have NHL 2k and Prizefighter! And possibly MLB since it is exclusive! Again I can and maybe wrong, but I'm also unbias and idealistic.

Which makes me seem dumb to some, and I'll except that. Because again, its my opinion! And others opinions towards me never really mattered!

Lets all just take a deep breathe and hope whatever happens, is the right thing for both companies and for the consumers, which is us!

[highpressure]

Well, I'm going to reserve judgement until this deal goes through, and I believe it's a matter of time before it does. I understand the fear of many that lack of competition will lead to poorly developed games. But there is also the possibility that some good will come out of this as well.

All that we can do now is speculate. No one here has the answer, no matter how well you articulate your argument. We are all in a position of wait and see. Until then, I'm hoping for the best, but not with high hopes.

[ac11367]

I just bought Take Two's stock at $15.56 a couple of weeks ago. News like this is good for my portfolio, but not good for my beloved sportsgaming.

Update, TTWO is trading at $25 pre-market, up around $8.

[Brophog]

Quote: Originally Posted by Behindshadows2

Well I read it clearly and thoroughly but your not getting my point. And I wasn't just stating that to you, I was stating it as a whole.

I understand your point just fine, and I believe I wrote a specific rebuttal to the part I objected towards. It is you that is continuing to reply to me talking about issues I did not address.

As to addressing me, well, you made your point once, and I didn't object, so in your rebuttal, it wasn't necessary to make it again. Pretty easy to see how someone would confuse that, now isn't it?

Back to the actual point, are you going to address the issue of 2K and EA bringing together their resources and producing change, or not? As far as what you wrote, that's all I care about. You addressed it, I wrote a rebuttal. It is the core of this thread, and what interests us as gamers the most. I just find it odd that you seemed so strong in your point, yet you have re-addressed it.

[Brophog]

Quote: Originally Posted by highpressure

But there is also the possibility that some good will come out of this as well.

Sure. But it isn't like this would be EA's first time purchasing a studio, either, and we have seen on several occasions how EA has used the mechanics of a current rival to improve their own product. Competition is improving EA, we know that much, because we can point to examples in the past. FIFA is a great example. Nearly everything in the game anymore is influenced from Konami, with EA adding in their own twists. They've done similiar in the past with other franchises.

That's what people fear, imo. For one, people like the idea of choice, it's a very important thing in our society. But there are also a lot of people out there that don't hate EA, but would like to see EA's products the best they can be, and competition in the marketplace seems to help spurn that along. Without it, EA seems to sit back more and concentrate on marketable new features, which we can only hope help improve the gameplay, but all too often don't.

[SPTO]

Well it looks like TT is going to be swallowed up after the release of GTA IV. Does TT own Rockstar or are they separate? I'd hate to have the EA brand in future GTA and GTA type games.

Sure competition has helped EA in that they've used their competition's best assets to improve their own games but monopolizing the business isn't the right way to innovate and improve. It's just a lazy fat cat way out of losing market share.

[Behindshadows]

Quote: Originally Posted by Brophog

Are you telling me the only thing that has kept EA from doing these things in the past is they didn't have the people 2K has? That they were unaware of the product 2K put out? That they just didn't know how to do these things? They are clearly smarter than you are giving them credit for being.

In the past EA had Visual Concepts. But they wait til the company was breaking down and then made an offer. It could be to save them, or to finally destroy them. No one knows!

No they recognize it, and I'm sure after VC left them the first time, who ever was running EA sports, knows it was a bad decision to let them go. And here is the chance to get them back, to make their sports titles good again. I'm sure they know 2k's products have been superior for a reason. And they are trying to get that technology / development squad, back on the EA label.

And I give them a lot of credit, they are doing what they do best. Throwing money around to get who and what they want. It might not be right, but its definitely them. lol.

But to end the arguments, lets just wait and see, might be bad, might not.

I did some research and look at all the locations and the new ones opened. These guys are on a mission and spending millions and billions to do something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts

Even the companies, they aquired so far, are still working on their own products, but now with the EA backing! And if 2k can make their games, with a good budget and EA's marketing. I can't wait to see what happens.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Brophog

Your post is terribly idealistic, and I think a tad bit ignorant. They've made design decisions to go a certain way, and no one from 2K is going to come in with the authority to make that change.

It's extremely harsh to call someone's post ignorant, even if you feel it is just a "tad bit." Especially when you'll be proven wrong here in the near future by your subsequent comment...

As for this whole EA proposal thing: I'm way past the point of caring. No matter how much you truly enjoy sports and video games, it's being proven time and time again that this is solely a business to provide a product of some form of entertainment to the masses out there who would like to "be like Mike."

It's pretty sad that others don't care for, IMO, all the "wrong" reasons.

[Art1bk]

Guys we really don't need to worry. For those that understand the way corporations work. You need to understand that the CEO and the board members make the desicions. CEO own 51% of the stocks and the board members hold the majority of the remaining stocks. Then we have the few who are share holders. The CEO and board members have turned this down. Which means we have nothing to worry about. Microsoft tried to pull the same crap on yahoo a few weeks ago. They made a deal with yahoo and when yahoo rejected them they went public, but nothing happened. They just want shareholders to know to try to start something. It would be horrible to have EA take over all sports games. Especially after all the garbage they put out.

[Vadiplomat04]

Oh just to let yall know.....TT shock went up with the announcement of EA's proposed buy-out.....Looks like a matter of time before this deal goes down......Sorry 2k fans, its over.