Freezing Theory

[FSU Spear 'Em]

Quote: Originally Posted by authentic

and this theory....is comical you are most certainly thinking too much...

Drinking or smoking too much more like it.

[stratospaly]

My local Gamestop got a bad batch of NCAA 07 discs. I thought I was crazy returning 3 of them to have them do the same thing. I ended up dropping the 360 completely that year and picked up a PS3. Best gaming move I have ever made.

[majesty95]

Quote: Originally Posted by DorianDonP

So all of the xbox and ps3 users who have freezing issues with NCAA 13 and no other game have a bad console?

So because your game freezes and mine doesn't, that indicates its just the game? Why doesn't mine freeze then? It should be consistent for everyone, correct? If not, then explain to me why yours freezes and mine doesn't and how that has nothing to do with your game, files, system, settings.

I had a ton of freezing issues last year. What i found that eliminates most of it is doing away with custom playbooks. I no longer use one and have very few freezing issues.

Is that a flaw in the game? Yes. But there's a workaround, don't use them. Madden did away with them for a reason. NCAA should have too, at least until the get them debugged and working correctly.

I know your going to want to say, "well its in the game. I should be able to use then." you should but maybe you just can't if you want to avoid freezing. My truck can go 120, does that mean it should?

Other than custom playbooks, corrupted files and maxed out hard drives have been pointed to as causes.

So yes, it's something specific to the user. It is not just the game, in general, as people like to casually throw around.

Try not using custom playbooks and see if that does not alleviate most of it. I bet it will. If it does not, try deleting the custom playbook files. Then roster files (those have been linked to freezing in isolated cases). Then re-installing the game and tuners.

There is a solution. It just may not be one you like...

[BA2929]

Got my game from Amazon for the 360. I've only had 1 freeze and I've finished 3+ seasons of Dynasty. Also, my freeze was at halftime of a game before the patch came out.

I don't use Custom Playbooks and have about 50GB of available memory in an Elite system that's 2+ years old.

I had more freezes with NBA 2k12 and Battlefield 3 than I have had with NCAA '13.

[DorianDonP]

Quote: Originally Posted by majesty95

So because your game freezes and mine doesn't, that indicates its just the game? Why doesn't mine freeze then? It should be consistent for everyone, correct? If not, then explain to me why yours freezes and mine doesn't and how that has nothing to do with your game, files, system, settings. I had a ton of freezing issues last year. What i found that eliminates most of it is doing away with custom playbooks. I no longer use one and have very few freezing issues. Is that a flaw in the game? Yes. But there's a workaround, don't use them. Madden did away with them for a reason. NCAA should have too, at least until the get them debugged and working correctly. I know your going to want to say, "well its in the game. I should be able to use then." you should but maybe you just can't if you want to avoid freezing. My truck can go 120, does that mean it should? Other than custom playbooks, corrupted files and maxed out hard drives have been pointed to as causes. So yes, it's something specific to the user. It is not just the game, in general, as people like to casually throw around. Try not using custom playbooks and see if that does not alleviate most of it. I bet it will. If it does not, try deleting the custom playbook files. Then roster files (those have been linked to freezing in isolated cases). Then re-installing the game and tuners. There is a solution. It just may not be one you like...

So you admit bugs cause freezing?

Then why are you angrily typing away as if someone hurt your feelings?

You want me to tell you why certain people have issues and others don't? Why? It's not my job to know the answer to that. Even the people whose job IS to program these games can't answer your question.

EA Themselves admit there are freezing issues and loading issues that they haven't figured out yet. Members here have called EA, and the reps basically told them 'you're out of luck until we figure out how to fix it."

Users have discovered that the studio updates cause freezing if a user plays more than one game a week, which cause them to play games out of order.

There are several bugs and glitches that cause freezing in the game. Some can't load their games. Some get freezes during recruiting. Some at halftime. Some at the end of the game.

All of them are not because of custom playbooks. If it was, EA themselves would have said that.

And even if custom playbooks were responsible for the hundreds of freezes that members here have posted about, why are you getting mad at the customers instead of the people who can't fix the problem?

Your car analogy was horrible. I'll give you a better one.

Someone buys a brand new car in the summer, but everytime they cut on the air conditioning, the car overheats. They log onto the car forum and find out that hundreds of people are having the same problem. Then one poster (tell me if this guy sounds familiar) says 'there is a solution. you just wont like it. just dont use the air conditioning. problem solved.'

To sit here and claim that everyone having issues, must either have a defective console or use custom playbooks is quite frankly pathetic, insulting, and petty of you. There wasn't 39 pages of people having freezing issues because of a broken console.

[cardinals57]

I got mine from Amazon and have only frozen once.

[gutsdabeast]

I'm on the PS3. My game didn't freeze but my players were moving like turtles. High-stepping to the line of scrimmage. Of course the cpu were moving at full speed. Must've been a new cheat.

[majesty95]

Where did I say "everyone"? Where did I indicate my feelings were hurt? Lol

True or false, there are people on here who have no or few freezing issues?

Also true or false. Some people on here would rather complain about an issue than look for a solution?

3rd true or false. People with "their feelings hurt" exaggerate information to meet their agenda and to sway people to see their side?

Admittedly, I never play offline dynasty, so I cannot speak to the freezing issues there. However, are there not people playing offline dynasties who are experiencing no issues?

The first rule of troubleshooting is to isolate the variables. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of things that can customize one person's experience from another's. So that makes it hard to replicate and, in turn, fix.

The known causes are custom playbooks, roster files, corrupted files and lack of memory.

So, to troubleshoot properly, you have to eliminate each of those issues one by one. Unless you do that, you cannot isolate other potential problems.

I already listed the order to try them. If someone does not want to do that, then what do they expect? There's no magic pill.

To use your A/C analogy, what if you found out the reason that your new car was overheating was because there was a blockage in the cooling fan? A foreign object made its way in there somehow and because of that your car overheats. You find the object and remove it and no more overheating issues. Still the manufacturers fault? What if it turned out to be your wrench or socket that caused it?

You have to eliminate the variables first.

Also, stay singular to your specific situation. Whatever someone else says that you interpret in your words is defined as hearsay. That's not meant to be disrespectful. What I mean is that other people leave out bits of information or get lazy and don't follow the steps to alleviate the problem but claim it is not fixed.

Example. In one of my online dynasties last year a guy kept complaining of server issues. He bagged on EA and said the game was crap. Said he would to play the next day. Next day, same issue. So, I suggested he re-download the patches. For some reason he decided to look at his system update and found his PS3 had not been updated. He updated the latest version and, voila, it was fixed.

Same guy the next week has more issues. Now he's really bagging EA. I tell him to try without custom playbooks. Nope, doesn't fix it. Postpones til the next day. Tries several more times and finally gets it to work. "What happened", I ask? "I forgot I was using a custom defensive playbook." All default playbooks, no issue.

It's not ideal, but it is what it is. The fact of the matter is custom playbooks are like heated seats. They are nice and enhance your driving experience, but they're not essential to drive the car.

I'm not excusing the fact that they are buggy. I just think they should have been removed like Madden. The simple solution is to remove them yourself.

Are there still issues unrelated to custom playbooks, roster files, corrupted files and lack of memory? Maybe. But you'll never be able to identify them without first eliminating those are possibilities.