Charting the Change in Rookie Ratings in Madden

[jeremym480]

Hopefully, the ratings in Madden 13 continue the current trend, but my guess is Luck and RG III come in rated as top 10-12 QB's before taking a snap. Same thing with my boy Trent Richardson.

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

A lot of those rookie ratting in Madden 07 were pretty spot on. Davis is a Beast, Manny Lawson was only a tiny bit over rated. He flat lined at about an 80-82 OVR as a 49er. We have seen what Reggie and others have done. I'd like to see where those same rookies OVR ratings are now in Madden 12.

No sit. Manny Lawson could stay how he is b/c there was nothing in those games to define pass rushers the way there is now. Davis was considered a bust a long time before he broke out. They also had Laurence(?) Maroney(?) at like 86. Is he even in the league still? Like you said, Bush was rated as the man in that backfield.

[Dj_MyTime]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vaporub83

Realistically there isn't a way to fix that. Bottom line if you are a rookie or a veteran physical attributes should be on a standard scale. Accuracy is a physical thing that shouldn't change just because you are in the NFL

But it does change...it goes up, which adds to OLF/Offline Franchise immersion. At a stand still I'd imagine Luck may be as accurate as the players I mentioned. But it's a different story when the bullets fly and that's what we're yet to see.

80-85 allows him to make all the throws, but doesn't put him at elite status out of the box. Now if he hits the ground running move him up, but there have been too many busts to say he and Griffin will do it for sure.

[DeuceDouglas]

I'd like to see Rookies across the board have lower ratings. I think M12 did a good job with it. I don't think anybody should be entering the league at much higher than an 80. I think they should change how potential works as well and let them progress or digress based on age and production.

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

No sit. Manny Lawson could stay how he is b/c there was nothing in those games to define pass rushers the way there is now. Davis was considered a bust a long time before he broke out. They also had Laurence(?) Maroney(?) at like 86. Is he even in the league still? Like you said, Bush was rated as the man in that backfield.

Who thought Davis was a bust? people who didn't watch the 49ers?

He was hurt most his rookie season, and Singletary straighted his attitude out in year 3... so after his 2nd year in the NFL people were calling him a bust. Talk about knee jerk.

Also, Maroney had a very nice rookie season behind Correy Dillon... and then he stagnated.

As I said, I would love to see where those high rated rookie are now and how different their ratings are today. Some up, some down, many about the same I think. Just my guess.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

He was hurt most his rookie season, and Singletary straighted his attitude out in year 3... so after his 2nd year in the NFL people were calling him a bust. Talk about knee jerk.

That's the way it works. You come out as the sixth overall pick and put up three very average seasons heading into the highest paid years of your contract and it's going to garner that kind of reaction. Obviously, it didn't turn out to be that way but at the time I'm sure there were plenty of people feeling like it was a bust at that time.

[gjneff]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I'd like to see Rookies across the board have lower ratings. I think M12 did a good job with it. I don't think anybody should be entering the league at much higher than an 80. I think they should change how potential works as well and let them progress or digress based on age and production.

Why can't a rookie come in and be good? Suh was THE most dominating interior lineman his rookie year. They should be rated as what they feel their skills are. If that means they come in as one of the best in the game then so be it.

Also, physically and skill wise, top rookies aren't much if any worse than vets. It is the mental ratings that need to have the most difference. Luck for example probably won't get much more accurate after being in the league, but he will learn his offense and where to go with the ball better.

[gjneff]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

That's the way it works. You come out as the sixth overall pick and put up three very average seasons heading into the highest paid years of your contract and it's going to garner that kind of reaction. Obviously, it didn't turn out to be that way but at the time I'm sure there were plenty of people feeling like it was a bust at that time.

He had 52 catches in 14 games his 2nd season. How is that a bust for a TE? In 2010 he had 56 catches in 16 games, nobody called him a bust then.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by gjneff

Why can't a rookie come in and be good? Suh was THE most dominating interior lineman his rookie year. They should be rated as what they feel their skills are. If that means they come in as one of the best in the game then so be it. Also, physically and skill wise, top rookies aren't much if any worse than vets. It is the mental ratings that need to have the most difference. Luck for example probably won't get much more accurate after being in the league, but he will learn his offense and where to go with the ball better.

I didn't say they can't come in and be good but at this point we don't know anything about who's going to be good or bad. For every Ndamukong Suh there's probably ten plus Ryan Sims out there. Rookies, especially QB's, are generally going to struggle a bit. Luck as highly touted as he is, is more than likely going to throw a bunch of picks this year, as is Griffin. I'm not saying you give Griffin 60 for speed just because he's a rookie but AWR and even pass accuracy should be tapered a bit to compensate for him being a rookie.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by gjneff

He had 52 catches in 14 games his 2nd season. How is that a bust for a TE? In 2010 he had 56 catches in 16 games, nobody called him a bust then.

Because he followed that up with a whopping 31 catches in his third season. And in 2010 he was coming of a season where he caught 13 TD's and went to the Pro Bowl. Then in 2011 he had almost twice the amount of yards with those 56 catches than he did with the 52 catches in his second season.