The Dwight Howard Thread

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyJote

So if the Heat win a title this year, does that suddenly make Spolestra a good coach, or would he, at that point, still be "any old coach"? What about Rick Carlisle (who until last year was below .500 in the playoffs)? Since we equate winning a championship with being a good coach, every coach who's won the title is seemingly labeled with being a great coach. Even though all of them back to 1980 had a dominant superstar on their team (with the exception of the Pistons, who had 4 All-Stars instead). I'm not going to say I could go out there with say, the Heat, and win, but I do think a middle-of-the-road coach with a Superstar (or better yet, two), has a much better chance than a team with a deeper roster, but no true superstar, and a hall-of-fame coach.

Dude Spo is not on the level Carlisle has been throughout his career. Carlisle didn't just suddenly become a good coach because he won a title, he was always a good coach. You certainly aren't about to sit here and try to pretend that Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Pop, Larry Brown etc. were average coaches or not good coaches but have been labeled great coaches simply because they won a title. It's a combination effort. You're not just going to win a title simply because you have a superstar otherwise there'd be more than three or four names in coaching with a title for the better part of two decades of NBA ball.

This whole discussion is pointless though cause you're missing the point of the topic. The Magic aren't morons because they're chosing a superstar over the head coach, they're morons because they're chosing a superstar who wants no part of their franchise over a really good coach. Dwight basically wants to/is dropping a grenade in the room and trying to walk out and leave them stuck in the room with it.

[23]

Dude should've just opted out and tested free agency to go wherever he wanted without the drama

[Altimus]

Dwight avoiding drama? Not in this universe.

[WTF]

And without teams having to gut their rosters to get him.

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Some teams need to gut their rosters

[OSUFan_88]

If I were the Magic, I'd be willing to take back lesser talent if a team can eat up Hedo's contract with Dwight's contract.

Then the Suck for Shabazz will be in motion.

[TracerBullet]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

If I were the Magic, I'd be willing to take back lesser talent if a team can eat up Hedo's contract with Dwight's contract. Then the Suck for Shabazz will be in motion.

I do not support "Suck for _______ " movements unless my team actually just sucks. I think this would be one of those cases.

But yes, let's rid ourselves of him and Hedo, please.

[Hotobu]

I wonder how realistic this is...

There's no way the Magic are going to get equal value for Dwight, but what about Dwight Howard for Blake Griffin as the centerpieces of a trade? He's definitely good enough to get people in the seats in Orlando(for a while at least), and is a good piece to build around. I don't hunt for trade proposal talk, but a trade like this would seem to make a lot of sense for both teams.

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hotobu

I wonder how realistic this is... There's no way the Magic are going to get equal value for Dwight, but what about Dwight Howard for Blake Griffin as the centerpieces of a trade? He's definitely good enough to get people in the seats in Orlando(for a while at least), and is a good piece to build around. I don't hunt for trade proposal talk, but a trade like this would seem to make a lot of sense for both teams.

There'd have to be something else in that trade, to be sure, but that could be something. It'd be a best case scenario for Orlando, I think. Blake doesn't play much defense, but he'd instantly be the best offensive player on the team. And the Clippers would have an opportunity to be a very good defensive team, and if Chris Paul can make Tyson Chandler look like a star, imagine what he can do with Dwight Howard.

[SteelersFreak]

The Magic would be one of the worst teams in the league if they made that trade.