Sound Off: Is Roger Goodell Going Too Far?

[TDenverFan]

Seeing as Denver's kickoff coverage has been awful for the past 5 years, I can't complain.

Kidding. Awful idea.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Thought it was just me that was noticing that. To every Saints Fan, Roger Goodell is the Devil and just wants to screw them over LOL.

Yeah it's apparent right away. LOL. Although lets face it they haven't been the most rational fan base to begin with over the last couple of years.

Quote: Originally Posted by TDenverFan

Seeing as Denver's kickoff coverage has been awful for the past 5 years, I can't complain. Kidding. Awful idea.

Yeah if they eliminated all Special Teams in 2010, the Chargers might have been good. lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisksaint

Yeah, for me it wasn't necessarily the weight that slowed me down as much as seemingly limiting my range of motion or whatever you want to call it.

Exactly..

If you play a game without them, it's instantly noticeable. Like I said I didn't wear them in my brief but unspectacular post college football career, but after playing that way, I would't want to go back to wearing them.

I know I am repeating myself, but there's a reason the NFL guys don't wear them when not forced to. Plus the notion that this is somehow going to have some significant impact on cutting down injuries is laughable to me.

[simgamer0005]

i just go back to 2007, when college football decided to move the kickoffs from the 35 to the 30 to "showcase the most exciting play in football". this, following the NFL's lead of having their kickoffs at the 30 for many years prior. now there's talk of removing kickoffs altogether? what a complete 180. now in 2012, a year after the NFL moves its kickoffs back to the 35, college football follows the NFL again and does it, only with a twist, touchbacks are now at the 25. (still can't get over that one)

where was the consideration for player safety in 2007 when CFB moved kickoffs back to the 30? nowhere to be found, i think they just were trying to shake things up to try to make people forget about those ridiculous clock rules of 2006. all i know is that it's hard to fake football. all these rules trying to outlaw certain blocks or wedges or whatever, it won't guarantee there won't be a concussion. i think the 35 yard line is fine, even if there's less returns and more touchbacks. but as an NFL fan, people got used to the 30 yard line. and when i was growing up, i thought there was a logical reason that CFB had it at the 35 yard line and the NFL had it at the 30. but then when they switched it around, it just really felt weird, it felt like nothing that was being done made any sense and they were just trying random stuff for random reasons. (first showcasing the most exciting play in football, now player safety - opposites)

[mestevo]

FWIW I don't think kickoffs will ever go away and were just an example by Mara during a case of verbal diarrhea in April of how much the NFL is considering to make the game safer.


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[Kaiser Wilhelm]

I don't think he wields too much power but I do think the owners should probably look into a new way to govern their game. It seems the owners have no clue what the league rules are.

As for removing the kickoffs, if the trend of people not being responsible for themselves continues, it may come to that. If you sign up to play professional football then you should know the inherent risks. It just perplexes that people choose to blame others for not thinking things through.

Maybe I'm just outdated in my belief that individuals are the ultimate sovereign over themselves and thus ultimately responsible for themselves and the consequences of their own actions.

[KBLover]

No kickoffs - that's ridiculous. That's right up there with no 3-point stance. What's next? No punts because someone might not call fair catch in time? Just move the ball back 40 yards and change possession?

Sure, player safety is important - but there will ALWAYS be hard hits in the game and not all of them are illegal or malicious. A good form tackle delivered by a powerful man with momentum is just as forceful, and not a thing illegal about it. Same for a good, classic "pancake" that a charging OT might lay on a DB looking to make said form tackle.

It seems like he's trying to take the contact out of a contact sport. The pads - well, why didn't he do this last year? That's what I don't get. He's about player safety, but is just now mandating full pads? Huh?

He should ban turf too - That stuff can tear up feet, knees, and ankles. Cleats can catch on it, not allowing the momentum to cause the feet to come off the ground. Instead, the torque stays in the leg/joint and...ouch.

I suppose the next thing he'll try is shorter quarters. Fewer plays = fewer hits after all...

[simgamer0005]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

No kickoffs - that's ridiculous. That's right up there with no 3-point stance. What's next? No punts because someone might not call fair catch in time? Just move the ball back 40 yards and change possession?

It's honestly amazing that the idea of eliminating kickoffs would even be suggested. it's hard to even think about football without kickoffs, or punts.

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Sure, player safety is important - but there will ALWAYS be hard hits in the game and not all of them are illegal or malicious. A good form tackle delivered by a powerful man with momentum is just as forceful, and not a thing illegal about it. Same for a good, classic "pancake" that a charging OT might lay on a DB looking to make said form tackle. It seems like he's trying to take the contact out of a contact sport. The pads - well, why didn't he do this last year? That's what I don't get. He's about player safety, but is just now mandating full pads? Huh?

Good point. All these rule changes yet only now is he mandating full pads? see player safety is a tough one, it's like if you don't fully support all these rule changes, it's like you are seen as insensitive and want to see players injured, which is not true at all. what puts a wrench in that logic is the fact that they moved the kickoffs back to the 30 to encourage more returns, like in college football in 2007. it's like they do things to make the game more dangerous then a few years later revert the rule back to what it was in the name of player safety. i actually think that all the rule changes year to year affect strategy and make the game more dangerous.

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

He should ban turf too - That stuff can tear up feet, knees, and ankles. Cleats can catch on it, not allowing the momentum to cause the feet to come off the ground. Instead, the torque stays in the leg/joint and...ouch.

And yeah really, grass is softer than turf. in the old days turf used to be like concrete, but now they have field turf which is a bit softer but yeah.

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

I suppose the next thing he'll try is shorter quarters. Fewer plays = fewer hits after all...

ha, no that's too obvious. they actually have much fewer plays then they used to. you know there was a time when you ran out of bounds and the clock would actually stop...and would stay stopped until the next snap! now when you run out of bounds, the ref spots it and clock is restarted, making the game shorter.

[buckeyes2587]

no i do not think he is. but we shall see.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

When I wore knee pads they slowed me down. I hated them an it was an annoyance.

[N51_rob]

My earlier post I said I don't think he (Goodell) has gone to far. But if the NFL sues to block New Jersey from opening up sports betting then yes, he will have gone way to far.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...over-gambling/

Stay out of State Legislature, period. The NFL has no business suing the state of New Jersey over this IMHO.