MLB 2K12 Player and Team Ratings

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[JoeMimic]

I wouldn't take too much stock into some of these ratings. They don't even have Dave Robertson listed at middle reliever and the guy had a 1.08era and 100Ks in 66Ip....BUT they have Phil Hughes listed as a middle relieve even though he started all but three of his 17 appearances.

[Zombeels]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeMimic

I wouldn't take too much stock into some of these ratings. They don't even have Dave Robertson listed at middle reliever and the guy had a 1.08era and 100Ks in 66Ip....BUT they have Phil Hughes listed as a middle relieve even though he started all but three of his 17 appearances.

Robertson is listed as a middle reliever.

[TheTodd84]

Yeah, the Yankees added Eric Chavez. Name me the last time he was good hitter. Seriously. The dude is injury riddled and even when he is healthy, hasn't hit over .270 since 2004 and this is a guy that is supposed to be a great addition? Sure, he might be good with the glove at the hot corner, but he can't hit anymore. Pineda, in 28 starts with the Mariners last season had a 3.74 ERA. Not great. Not bad, but nothing to get overly excited about. Maybe he will be great. But, as of today, nothing special.

And also, can we officially stop jumping on the Andruw Jones bandwagon? Please... How is bringing in an injury-prone outfielder who hasn't hit above .260 since 06 a good addition? I don't understand it... here are his batting averages from the past 5 seasons... 2007: .222, 2008: .158, 2009: .214, 2010; .230, and 2011: .247. This is a good addition? yikes, the numbers would say otherwise. And I get it... he was hurt in 08 and 09 and he's always hit a lot of home runs, but so what? Who cares if he hits a homer with nobody on in the 8th when you have 6-1 lead after starting the game 0-3 with 2 strikeouts? How is that productive in your lineup?

I just don't understand what these 2k12 people are looking at. It took me literally 2.5 minutes to find those stats on the players I mentioned. I guess maybe being a .260 hitter is considered awesome now that it warrants a team having a 95 overall rating. I hope that's not the case, because if so, man have our standards dropped.

[TheTodd84]

And then the past two seasons, Teixeira has really trended downward in hitting. Last season he hit .248, which is awful for where he is in the lineup and in 2010 he hit .256. Again, pretty bad for the 3 or 4 hole in the lineup. 09 was his last big year. I know he had over 200 RBIs the past couple seasons, so he has been productive there, I guess I just don't get how he is rated so highly still. So all that matters is homers and RBIs? Yeah, he might go back to his 09 form, but that's not guaranteed, and it's a grave mistake by 2k12 to assume he would after the past two seasons.

[Zombeels]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheTodd84

Yeah, the Yankees added Eric Chavez. Name me the last time he was good hitter. Seriously. The dude is injury riddled and even when he is healthy, hasn't hit over .270 since 2004 and this is a guy that is supposed to be a great addition? Sure, he might be good with the glove at the hot corner, but he can't hit anymore. Pineda, in 28 starts with the Mariners last season had a 3.74 ERA. Not great. Not bad, but nothing to get overly excited about. Maybe he will be great. But, as of today, nothing special. And also, can we officially stop jumping on the Andruw Jones bandwagon? Please... How is bringing in an injury-prone outfielder who hasn't hit above .260 since 06 a good addition? I don't understand it... here are his batting averages from the past 5 seasons... 2007: .222, 2008: .158, 2009: .214, 2010; .230, and 2011: .247. This is a good addition? yikes, the numbers would say otherwise. And I get it... he was hurt in 08 and 09 and he's always hit a lot of home runs, but so what? Who cares if he hits a homer with nobody on in the 8th when you have 6-1 lead after starting the game 0-3 with 2 strikeouts? How is that productive in your lineup? I just don't understand what these 2k12 people are looking at. It took me literally 2.5 minutes to find those stats on the players I mentioned. I guess maybe being a .260 hitter is considered awesome now that it warrants a team having a 95 overall rating. I hope that's not the case, because if so, man have our standards dropped.

You really don't know much about baseball, do ya kiddo?

[TheNumber35]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheTodd84

And then the past two seasons, Teixeira has really trended downward in hitting. Last season he hit .248, which is awful for where he is in the lineup and in 2010 he hit .256. Again, pretty bad for the 3 or 4 hole in the lineup. 09 was his last big year. I know he had over 200 RBIs the past couple seasons, so he has been productive there, I guess I just don't get how he is rated so highly still. So all that matters is homers and RBIs? Yeah, he might go back to his 09 form, but that's not guaranteed, and it's a grave mistake by 2k12 to assume he would after the past two seasons.

Smh...its well documented that Teixeira is still one of the most feared hitters in baseball. Yes the average his dipped in the last two seasons, but his OBP was still .341 and he slugged .494 with an OPS of .835. Not to mention his HR power is still there, his defense is still there, and his overall production are still there. But I saw a really good piece on the MLB network on Tex's swing the last couple of years and what's going on with his average, and they acknowledged that the Yankees know about this and are working to correct it.

As for Pineda...he was unbelievable last season and anyone who says otherwise didn't pay much attention to the kid's stuff and his starts. The kid was so good in the 1st half of the year and just got burned out in the 2nd half (but was still damn good.) Considering it was his rookie season, I'd say that his production will be more 1st half than 2nd half for the future. Plus, adding him to a Yankees lineup that will actually score for him and give him a chance to compete for a WS...well, look at what happened when Doug Fister (who isn't half the physical talent that Pineda is) went to the Tigers...I'll tell ya what, 8-1 with 1.79 ERA in 11 regular season starts.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that 1 player doesn't make a team. CC Sabathia, Jeter, Mo, Swisher, Gardner, A-Rod, Grandyman, Nova, Ibanez (you don't give him enough credit), Tex, Robertson, Soriano, Chamberlain, Pineda, Martin, etc. That team is damn good and pretty stacked and saying otherwise is just plain ignorant

[JoeMimic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zombeels

Robertson is listed as a middle reliever.

Middle Relief and Setup Pitchers
Jonny Venters (ATL) 85
Francisco Rodriguez (MIL) 82
Tyler Clippard (WAS) 82
Mike Adams (TEX) 82
Sean Marshall (CIN) 82
Nick Masset (CIN) 81
Joel Peralta (TB) 81
Sergio Romo (SF) 81
Kris Medlen (ATL) 81
Koji Uehara (TEX) 81
Yoshinori Tateyama (TEX) 81
Sam LeCure (CIN) 81
Casey Janssen (TOR) 81
Joaquin Benoit (DET) 81
Francisco Cordero (TOR) 81
Phil Hughes (NYY) 80
Scott Downs (LAA) 80
Grant Balfour (OAK) 80
Vinnie Pestano (CLE) 80
Jeff Niemann (SD) 80
Fernando Salas (STL) 80
Rex Brothers (COL) 80
Greg Holland (KC) 80
Mark Melancon (BOS) 80
Edward Mujica (MIA) 80
Ramon Ramirez (NYM) 80
Octavio Dotel (DET) 80

Kindly point out Dave Robertson's name on that list.

[Zombeels]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeMimic

Middle Relief and Setup Pitchers Jonny Venters (ATL) 85 Francisco Rodriguez (MIL) 82 Tyler Clippard (WAS) 82 Mike Adams (TEX) 82 Sean Marshall (CIN) 82 Nick Masset (CIN) 81 Joel Peralta (TB) 81 Sergio Romo (SF) 81 Kris Medlen (ATL) 81 Koji Uehara (TEX) 81 Yoshinori Tateyama (TEX) 81 Sam LeCure (CIN) 81 Casey Janssen (TOR) 81 Joaquin Benoit (DET) 81 Francisco Cordero (TOR) 81 Phil Hughes (NYY) 80 Scott Downs (LAA) 80 Grant Balfour (OAK) 80 Vinnie Pestano (CLE) 80 Jeff Niemann (SD) 80 Fernando Salas (STL) 80 Rex Brothers (COL) 80 Greg Holland (KC) 80 Mark Melancon (BOS) 80 Edward Mujica (MIA) 80 Ramon Ramirez (NYM) 80 Octavio Dotel (DET) 80 Kindly point out Dave Robertson's name on that list.

Those are only the top middle relievers.

Intelligence Fail

[econoodle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zombeels

Those are only the top middle relievers. Intelligence Fail

my problem with that list is where IS D-Rob?
Hughes is a better reliever? Ratings are always subjective [and fun to discuss if it doesnt get heated], but how is Robertson not in the top list there?
Hes practically better than the entire Mets Middle relief core [fact].