Fact or Fiction: Madden 12 Demo Edition

[Rudolph999]

presentation will never be updated without competition its that simple.

[crob8822]

All I can say is next tuesday is madden holiday, there will be alot of empty cubicles, upset co-workers because they will have to cover.
And we (the Madden players) will be in video football bliss.

[TheTodd84]

All I can say is that there is just one, simple solution to a lot, if not all, of these issues. Real-time physics. It doesn't have to be rag doll or anything like that, but just the feeling of momentum and weight and things happening realistically. Fifa and NBA 2k12 are improving their collision systems by adding physics, so why can't madden and NCAA? This would make the game infinitely more realistic without really altering the system or the player models. This NEEDS to be implemented. And immediately.

The passing game is a borderline game-killer with the superhuman LBs in full effect and jumping up to make plays they would never, ever make in real life. The issue with that is partially because the trajectory of the football on passing plays is way off. It is almost impossible to throw the ball over a linebacker in between a safety without lobbing the ball and allowing the safety to catch up.

Until these two things are addressed, this game will never reach its full potential and will never feel like what you see on sundays, like caley said.

[statum71]

Quote: Originally Posted by MissionMaximus

(s38s38s @ 08/22/11 03:59 PM) The presentation is far from what sets the standard for me, which is NFL 2K5. Game was $20 dollars, and was the most impressive game I've played from a presentation stand-point, it's almost become mythic in the sense younger gamers can't appreciate good presentation because they never experienced something as deep as 2K5's. I 100% agree with this. The detail and presentation was and still is unrivaled to this day. I remember (to my astonishment) after a penalty I could do a replay and actually see the penalty that was committed be it a facemask, clipping, or holding call. But back on topic I really am looking forward to this years madden I believe it will be the best madden to date.

I can only imagine a combination of the way Madden has improved with the CBS-like camera angles, intros and presentation......coupled with NFL 2K5's: start with host in the studio presenting the matchup, Halftime Show with narrated highlights, and post game wrapup back in studio.

Oh.....and NCAA's custom music feature. So I can add my Fox NFL Sunday and NFL on CBS pregame music.

Now, if we ever see THAT Madden..... I could lose my job. (figure of speech of course)

[FlyBri]

Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF?

You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...

[Deelron]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rudolph999

presentation will never be updated without competition its that simple.

It was just updated without any competition. Does it still have a ways to go? Probably but it was clearly updated.

[Armor & Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rudolph999

presentation will never be updated without competition its that simple.

Sigh.

Please. Stop it. Can we please...please not allow another good discussion about Madden fall into this trap of "if they had competition" "Well 2K did this".

Enough. It is so friggin old, tired. And cliche.


I am not a mod but I felt compelled to post this. Because it will turn into a 50 page back and forth rant of the same old tired BS.


Let's just talk about Madden 12. That is the only NFL game with any relevance. That is the reality.

Yes the presentation is still a work in progress. However the demo has given me a nice glimpse of finally getting a TV style broadcast. I love the new camera angles. So far so good.

The next step is dynamic commentary and a more robust halftime, and franchise weekly show. And of course a balls to wall NFL draft presentation package.

As far as gameplay I am very giddy about 12. I think the game feels great.

And the new franchise enhancements are going to make this game the best Madden ever (that is my hope).

Judgement day is coming soon!

Peace.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by FlyBri

Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF? You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...

What are you waiting for? You already have it. If you want your halftime show and weekly highlight show with Chris Berman, you already have it. Go fire up your XBOX or PS2, update the rosters and be happy with it. Channeling my inner Allen Iverson, "We're talking about Madden. Not 2k. Not 2k. Madden. We're talking about Madden." Madden will never be 2k and 2k will never be Madden.

[RumbleStud]

7 days boys. And there's nothing wrong with the passing over LBs. The people that complain about this most (I used to be one of them) are people that only throw the ball 2 different ways, Bullet. or Lob. And believe me there's touch passing in the game and you either haven't learn it or just don't have it and never will.

[TheTodd84]

Quote: Originally Posted by FlyBri

Madden is finally getting to be at least playable for me, starting with last year, but to me it still needs a ways to go. Things still feel "forced" to me, and not natural. Tackling, while definitely improved, still doesn't feel as realistic as NFL2K5 (yes, I'm going there as well). Maybe EA should hire (or buy, knowing them) NaturalMotion, and use their engine for the physics. BackBreaker may not have been great, but the physics definitely were. And as other people said, the presentation on NFL2K5 was just out of this world. I still am yearning for the same level of ESPN integration in a game. Having Chris Berman do the weekly highlight reel in real time with all his catchphrases was just unbelievable. It's 7 years later and I'm still waiting...WTF? You're getting their Madden, but you're taking your damn sweet time doing so...

Couldn't have said it better myself. This has been repeatedly asked for year after year. Yet, no response from EA. They won't even address the issue on any of these forums. It's a shame really. I can tell you, though, I will not be buying an EA sports game at release ever again. And I especially won't be buying it until either there are 2 or 3 patches and tuner sets are out, or this thing called physics is installed in their games. I will not be buying madden for weeks, and even then, I may not, depending on the issues I hear about.

But FlyBri, they really should utilize the naturalmotion physics. It really is the only thing they can do to save this turd of an engine at this point. Everything else has been tried and has failed miserably.