NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

[OSUFANOKC]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

I think they've shown that they are serious about discussion. Having 20+ hardcore guys in over 5 different 4 day sessions, starting as early as January, to work with them on features, bugs, enhancements and direction of the game is FAR more than most companies attempt. Just because the discussions have not happened with you personally doesn't mean they have not happened. In fact, i think they have been real open to implementing the features the community wants most. The surveys and TGT March Madness tourneys have directly driven the enhancements the last couple of years. I understand you have concerns, and voicing them is great.. because EA does read and absorb the communities feedback.

I'm concerned with how late in the process it is, and we are just now finding out about the flawed bullrushing animations. My question is, is it too late in the development stage to not just make the BR animations happen rarely, but actually recreate more realistic BR animations in general?

[carnalnirvana]

khaliib i agree with you on most points you made. My frustartions were put to rest last season when i finally realized what these footballs games were and their target audience.

let me guess you are an offline player....

these issues are not important, its all about online play where tendencies are not required.

I'll be shocked if the Db issue isn't fixed its still early right now...........

[khaliib]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

I think they've shown that they are serious about discussion. Having 20+ hardcore guys in over 5 different 4 day sessions, starting as early as January, to work with them on features, bugs, enhancements and direction of the game is FAR more than most companies attempt. Just because the discussions have not happened with you personally doesn't mean they have not happened. In fact, i think they have been real open to implementing the features the community wants most. The surveys and TGT March Madness tourneys have directly driven the enhancements the last couple of years. I understand you have concerns, and voicing them is great.. because EA does read and absorb the communities feedback.

I get all that, and it's not about me personally.
It's about the community.

The underlined part is what concerns me.
Are these individuals really voicing the communities desires or just enjoying the moment and not rocking the boat? (not an attack)

Just wondering what's going on if we have "Hardcore" people giving input, then we STILL see issues that were from 3 years ago happening in these pre-release vid's.

Nevermind the new injections that might not have been in the build they played.
There's DB's still doing the Mirror Dance.
Awareness issues (Catches caught between 2 DB's w/no attempt on ball)
LB's still swatting passes that should really be to high to reach
No Momentum (Def players still changing on a dime)

I get what your saying with the invitation thing.
But there are still too many Old issues popping up again in these vid's, then to see this animation called a bullrush.

There needs to be some more involvement beyond the 20+ individuals at this stage.

If they're visiting and seeing our concerns, a simple "we've noted the concern" would go a long way.

That's all I was trying to say in my Word-Salad!!!

[SpreadEm]

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[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by khaliib

If they're visiting and seeing our concerns, a simple "we've noted the concern" would go a long way.

This is the only part I want to point out.

Noting the concern and fixing the concern are two different things.

Plus, as I've learned in business and what Carnival was alluding to, our number 1 priority is not always their #1 priority.

Someone said it better up above us.

Do they have enough time to tune it or fix it before it goes gold. That's the bottom line.

[carnalnirvana]

judging from the zone defense vid the feedback gotten from the visitors were either wrong or the team didnt implement it, this year becuase its pretty bad,

this bullrush vid, lets see how it plays out.......

the biggest thing missing from this game is TECHNIQUE at every position, and that can be gotten from film.

[lofeazy]

I hope there are different animations on the bullrush not just this one.

[Goffs]

eh...how often does that happen though? the bull rush? id rather see an animation where the DL pushes the OL back not just run the guy over like that....

[Illustrator76]

Quote: Originally Posted by carnalnirvana

judging from the zone defense vid the feedback gotten from the visitors were either wrong or the team didnt implement it, this year becuase its pretty bad, this bullrush vid, lets see how it plays out....... the biggest thing missing from this game is TECHNIQUE at every position, and that can be gotten from film.

Man. I always tried to put my finger on exactly how to express what is lacking in the EA football games, but you stated it perfectly here. Proper technique/interaction at each position is one of the biggest issues that looms over their football games.

Well said sir.

[drlw322]

Quote: Originally Posted by Illustrator76

Man. I always tried to put my finger on exactly how to express what is lacking in the EA football games, but you stated it perfectly here. Proper technique/interaction at each position is one of the biggest issues that looms over their football games. Well said sir.

It's the lack of transitional animation. IF the dev have said it, the reason the tackles would warp in the past is because they had limited animation from each angle. They had to add over 100 animation to make the new collision system work. They also had to dive catch animation to combat the speed up warp catches.

Thats why the other game looks so much more smoother is because they have so many animation and transitional animation to their game so it's not choppy during transition of animation.