NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

[Palo20]

I don't like the bull rush animations. How often does an OLineman get pancaked? Not often.

The bull rush should simply be the defender pushing the OLineman into the pocket. Then as he gets closer to the QB, the defender is able to get around him. I don't want to see OLinemen getting pancaked every play.

[Palo20]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

I like it. could this be the year I can finally control a dominant defensive linman and cause big time problems, if im not accounted for?

What option does the offense have to "account" for you? We can't manipulate double teams on passing plays and double teams on running plays are scheme based.

The offense needs better options on how to schematically block the best defensive players.

[RynoAid]

I've spent 100+ hours with the game and the dive catch is sweet... especially when you trigger it yourself when switching to the WR. They definitely don't catch all of them, in fact they drop them at a much higher rate than normal catch attempts.

it's so much fun laying out for a ball you thought you might not get to and making that spectacular catch.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

I've spent 100+ hours with the game and the dive catch is sweet... especially when you trigger it yourself when switching to the WR. They definitely don't catch all of them, in fact they drop them at a much higher rate than normal catch attempts. it's so much fun laying out for a ball you thought you might not get to and making that spectacular catch.

What about the bull rushes? Did you see them like this video? Thanks.

[NDAlum]

I like what I'm seeing.

[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

What about the bull rushes? Did you see them like this video? Thanks.

the bull rushes were not prominent in the builds i played. Like the TGT guys said, not sure if they were even there yet, or if we just weren't triggering them properly. I can't really give an opinion because it's not something i focused on or was told to focus on.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

the bull rushes were not prominent in the builds i played. Like the TGT guys said, not sure if they were even there yet, or if we just weren't triggering them properly. I can't really give an opinion because it's not something i focused on or was told to focus on.

Thanks.

Is it something you can look into and see if they can tweak or fix before going gold?

Thanks.

[khaliib]

The truth is that the PR side for this series has been very poor since transitioning to Next-Gen.

It use to be a videos would get you pumped back when we had several Football game makers.
We wanted to see the "Goods" as we prepared for another football season months in before the season started. (College or Pro's)

Now, it's like, "what are they trying pull now"?

The problem is not EA's effort for this series.
The problem is the "Involvement" for this series.

Involement with the communities has become nothing more than a Punch-line.

Were are they at?
This is there Tuning/Tweaking phase and the community has "Major" concerns about the game their about to release.

Who cares about Marketing Timelines?
The OS community is not the only one rumbling with concern about the information/vid's that have been released thus far.
The concern/complaint threads are on every gaming site. (Even EA's)

What about last years issues?
No scrambling QB's
DB mirror route
LB super jump knocking passes down meant to be caught 10 yrds past them
P/K blocking OL
Ratings effecting gameplay different then how established/defined

The list goes on and on.

Just simply rolling out what "You've" decided to put into the game, is not involvement.
I can't find one thread were the community asked for their OL to knocked down during a "???".
(It's an insult to football fans to call this animation a Bullrush)

Again, it's not their Effort, it's their Involvement!

I remember Ian Cummings said they injected something into the game and when they showed pre-release vids, the community made their displeasure known.
So instead they just scrapped the injection. (Involvment)

Where are they at?
We don't need game information rolled out.
We need to have some serious discussion!!!

[ViLLiO]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Thanks. Is it something you can look into and see if they can tweak or fix before going gold? Thanks.

Big Ben will see this thread.

[RynoAid]

Quote: Originally Posted by khaliib

The truth is that the PR side for this series has been very poor since transitioning to Next-Gen. It use to be a videos would get you pumped back when we had several Football game makers. We wanted to see the "Goods" as we prepared for another football season months in before the season started. (College or Pro's) Now, it's like, "what are they trying pull now"? The problem is not EA's effort for this series. The problem is the "Involvement" for this series. Involement with the communities has become nothing more than a Punch-line. Were are they at? This is there Tuning/Tweaking phase and the community has "Major" concerns about the game their about to release. Who cares about Marketing Timelines? The OS community is not the only one rumbling with concern about the information/vid's that have been released thus far. The concern/complaint threads are on every gaming site. (Even EA's) What about last years issues? No scrambling QB's DB mirror route LB super jump knocking passes down meant to be caught 10 yrds past them P/K blocking OL Ratings effecting gameplay different then how established/defined The list goes on and on. Just simply rolling out what "You've" decided to put into the game, is not involvement. I can't find one thread were the community asked for their OL to knocked down during a "???". (It's an insult to football fans to call this animation a Bullrush) Again, it's not their Effort, it's their Involvement! I remember Ian Cummings said they injected something into the game and when they showed pre-release vids, the community made their displeasure known. So instead they just scrapped the injection. (Involvment) Where are they at? We don't need game information rolled out. We need to have some serious discussion!!!

I think they've shown that they are serious about discussion. Having 20+ hardcore guys in over 5 different 4 day sessions, starting as early as January, to work with them on features, bugs, enhancements and direction of the game is FAR more than most companies attempt. Just because the discussions have not happened with you personally doesn't mean they have not happened.

In fact, i think they have been real open to implementing the features the community wants most. The surveys and TGT March Madness tourneys have directly driven the enhancements the last couple of years.

I understand you have concerns, and voicing them is great.. because EA does read and absorb the communities feedback.