Pet peeve (Signature styles) LONG POST

[bxpapito]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris_SCEA_Sports

Interesting post, Thanks B_B. I don't have time to respond adequately to it right now, but I will soon. I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you. Chris

I'm still waiting for thaT "ADEQUATE RESPONSE" from Chris.

[Bronk_Bonin]

Quote: Originally Posted by bxpapito

I'm still waiting for thaT "ADEQUATE RESPONSE" from Chris.

Hey, I'm waiting more than anyone but let's give the guy a break. It's the weekend, he's been working non stop to get the game released, and he has a family, which I'm sure he would like to spend some time with. I'm sure answering my concerns on signature styles isn't on top of his list right now. The fact that he said he'd get us some answers is good enough for me. I'm just gracious that he gives us info at all. He owes us nothing.

[Rob_NYY]

I'm looking forward to Chris' reply as well. I'm glad he's taken the time to read all of this and eventually answer.

And just for the record, a lot of the batting stances are good, there's just a few that are off. But it's the pitching motions that are amazingly innacurate.

[beau1221]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bronk_Bonin

Hey, I'm waiting more than anyone but let's give the guy a break. It's the weekend, he's been working non stop to get the game released, and he has a family, which I'm sure he would like to spend some time with. I'm sure answering my concerns on signature styles isn't on top of his list right now. The fact that he said he'd get us some answers is good enough for me. I'm just gracious that he gives us info at all. He owes us nothing.

agreed. i know they're getting close to release so they're either 1) in serious crunch mode or 2) pretty much done and finally getting to see and remember what their families look like

Quote: Originally Posted by Bronk_Bonin

I just played against the D'Backs and Brandon Webb seemed to have generic motion as well. He also seemed to throw a lot more fastballs than sinkers which is odd because he known tho throw that heavy sinker 75-80% of the time.

agreed also. it may already be in the game, but if it's not then its one of two things i would love to see implemented into each pitchers sliders/attributes in the game:
1) i would love to see each pitch have a MPH slider instead of a generic slider where you have no idea how fast your pitcher will be throwing until you try it out and tweak it
2) a slider for each pitch that gives a ration/percentage of the time that the pitcher throws that pitch (ex. 43%4FB, 25%2FB, 20%Curve, 12%Changeup) i think thats 100%

[Rob_NYY]

Quote: Originally Posted by beau1221

1) i would love to see each pitch have a MPH slider instead of a generic slider where you have no idea how fast your pitcher will be throwing until you try it out and tweak it

I have been wanting this in baseball games for years. It's a great idea, instead of having "Pitch Speed" slider, have it in MPH form. Fastballs from: 84-87, 88-91, 92-95, 96+ It would be a lot better this way, me thinks.

And it would be a lot easier to create rookies/minor leaguers from their scouting reports when we read they throw a fastball in the mid to high 90's, and a devastating high 80's slider.

[baa7]

Quote: Originally Posted by beau1221

1) i would love to see each pitch have a MPH slider instead of a generic slider where you have no idea how fast your pitcher will be throwing until you try it out and tweak it

Takes maybe an hour to chart the pitch speeds in The Show. Just test them and write 'em down, then you're good to go. And while I love doing stuff like that, I understand if others can't find the time or can't be bothered

[Bronk_Bonin]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rob_NYY

I have been wanting this in baseball games for years. It's a great idea, instead of having "Pitch Speed" slider, have it in MPH form. Fastballs from: 84-87, 88-91, 92-95, 96+ It would be a lot better this way, me thinks. And it would be a lot easier to create rookies/minor leaguers from their scouting reports when we read they throw a fastball in the mid to high 90's, and a devastating high 80's slider.

I couldn't agree more.

[Bronk_Bonin]

Quote: Originally Posted by beau1221

a slider for each pitch that gives a ration/percentage of the time that the pitcher throws that pitch (ex. 43%4FB, 25%2FB, 20%Curve, 12%Changeup) i think thats 100%

That would be sweet if the pitchers actually followed their own true to life pitching patterns. I would like see guys like Lowe and Wang use the sinker a majority of the time. I would suspect in a videogame though it would become very easy to hit these guys because you'd be looking for only one pitch all the time. I don't use the guess pitch feature but those that do, this would be even less of a challenge.

[wookie48]

read the post for the first time and I have to say bro, I am glad you wrote it and glad you got a response. I have been PM for a week now with questions about sig stuff and nothing. So as long as its fixed good deal. Some off the wall sig stuff were (including the demo) Jason Varitek, Brad Hawpe, Mark texiera, carlos delgado, chipper jones, hank blalock, and ian kinsler to name a few. Heck Varitek, texiera, hawpe all have open stances. I really dont get how that was missed? Manny and David ortiz stance is a little off too. Not much but manny stands taller not crouched and ortiz doesnt shake the crap out of his bat. (is it me or does ortiz have a teenie head in comparison to his body?) This game is great though, just these little nuances need to be fixed. Great post bro!

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rob_NYY

I hope re-doing all the signature motions and stances is something that is on the menu for The Show 09 and 10.

That's a little ridiculous, IMO. We're talking about close to 1200 players here.

Not to mention, the other things these guys must focus on in a limited development window.

Personally, and I only do this with games that scream A+ quality.... I'll give the developers a pass in an area like this. They obviously have so much right that if a guy is even remotely close to his real life form, I'm ok with that.

Now before anyone goes on about having your cake and eating it to... take a step back and look at everything that is in this game. I've posted it elsewhere: I've seen pitchers with 3 different throwing motions and fielders with unique throwing motions in there as well... from the demo.

The sig. styles can get there. I'd rather they work on adding signature swing follow-thru's before we start asking them to re-do everything.