RAZRr1275's Pitch Edits Thread

[theotherguy619]

Quote: Originally Posted by aznpunk

speaking of spreadsheets, I was wondering if you have an updated sheet of the stats that you posted earlier. sorry for going off topic though.

I haven't updated that in a while, and I'm not sure I still have it. From what the demo and screenshots show us, it looks like we won't have to. I think SCEA nailed attritbutes thus far.

[RAZRr1275]

Quote: Originally Posted by theotherguy619

One more thing... I can't stand it when pitchers in the show have a 4-seamer as their #1 when in real life, they have a natural 2-seamer but it's set up as their 3rd or 4th pitch. For players that throw both (Josh Beckett comes to mind), I will give them both. But for guys that throw a ball with consistent movement (Roy Halliday comes to mind, never throwing a 4-seamer), they will not have a 4-seamer. To me, this makes. I hope it makes sense to you lol.

I agree

Quote: Originally Posted by hojusimpson

RAZRr1275, I'm glad to be of service! The "Anatomy" articles are really helpful and are some of my favourites on THT. By the way, their Season Preview book comes out next week so when I get mine, I'll try and get as much information posted as possible (unless you all beat me to it! ) Thanks to the editing crew -- hopefully the word is true and not much editing is needed this year, based on SCEA's hard work in bringing things in line. Oh, thanks to Jason_19 -- I'm digging 60ft6in, especially the information on MiLB guys. ----------- edit: Regarding the strange assignment of pitches to a player's arsenal (or the rearrangement), has SCEA ever commented on this? Or, better yet, for those who went to San Diego to play the game, was the team asked about this? Colour me curious! ---------- edit 2: I found a few more sites. They may have duplicate information since the writer seems to pull double-duty. Still, there are some more above and side projectile graphs. http://www.cubsfx.com/search/label/PITCHf%2Fx http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/tag...er=date&page=1 The second one isn't as narrowed (and may have a few articles from the first but it's only two pages). Hopefully they help -- I'll be back with more specific information, if needed, once those books are in my hands.

I don't think they commented

Quote: Originally Posted by theotherguy619

Can excel spreadsheets not be uploaded as an attachment?

Try uploading on www.sendspace.com pm me the link

[WakeUnc2321]

Looking forward to everything this season, Razr

[theotherguy619]

K, here's what I've done in two days. Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Boston are done. I only did the players that have MLB time under their belt. It's in alphabetal order; I thought it would be easier than team-by-team (players moving and what not).

Feel free to make suggestions, but please have a source to back it up with.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/x1kzwj

[chicubsfan20]

Quote: Originally Posted by theotherguy619

K, here's what I've done in two days. Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Boston are done. I only did the players that have MLB time under their belt. It's in alphabetal order; I thought it would be easier than team-by-team (players moving and what not). Feel free to make suggestions, but please have a source to back it up with. http://www.sendspace.com/file/x1kzwj

Hey when you get to the Cubs. The announcers for the Cubs always talk about Ryan Dempster having a splitter which is his strikeout pitch as they'd put it. Do you have anything on him throwing that? It may be considered a two-seamer with the movement but they say he throws a splitter, I really don't have much on it besides what they say though. Just wondering.

[Rod_Carew29]

I DO have him throwing a 2-seam fastball, but I DON'T have him throwing a splitter. However, m-a-y-b-e his 'change' is actually a splitter. I have him throwing it in the vicinity of 84-85mph. That is surely a splitter speed.

Quote: Originally Posted by chicubsfan20

Hey when you get to the Cubs. The announcers for the Cubs always talk about Ryan Dempster having a splitter which is his strikeout pitch as they'd put it. Do you have anything on him throwing that? It may be considered a two-seamer with the movement but they say he throws a splitter, I really don't have much on it besides what they say though. Just wondering.

[theotherguy619]

Quote: Originally Posted by chicubsfan20

Hey when you get to the Cubs. The announcers for the Cubs always talk about Ryan Dempster having a splitter which is his strikeout pitch as they'd put it. Do you have anything on him throwing that? It may be considered a two-seamer with the movement but they say he throws a splitter, I really don't have much on it besides what they say though. Just wondering.

I just finished the Cubs, and I gave him a 2-SFB, a slider, and a splitter.

[tree3five]

Here is some pitching info I came across for the Pirates, hope this helps.


Sean Burnett, LHP, reliever Burnett has an awkward, jerking delivery usually reserved for righthanded pitchers. He deals a 90mph fastball and a dropping slider. In limited viewings, I have yet to witness an offspeed pitch from Burnett. 8/19/08 CSJ

*fastball(89-92), slider(78-81)

Ian Snell, RHP, starter Ian Snell is from Delaware and has the ability to rack up Ks. He owns a hard fastball and two different breaking pitches. He prefers his curveball, a hard breaking pitch that could pass as most pitcher's slider. Snell's slider is a very tight breaker in the mid-upper 80s. Ian does have a changeup, but rarely uses it. 5/14/08 CSJ

*fastball(88-92), curve(79-82), slider(85-86), change(82-84)

Ross Ohlendorf, RHP, reliever Ohlendorf has good velocity. He has a mid-90s fastball that runs in on RHs. There is no wasted motion in his delivery, just a small kick and a short hesitation before he pours in his heater. He owns a slider that gets good downward break and is hard to lay off. Ross will show a sinking changeup to LHs on occasion. Stuff-wise, Ohlendorf looks like an MLB pitcher. 5/10/08 CSJ

*fastball(90-97), slider(81-86), changeup(82-86)

Craig Hansen, RHP, reliever Hansen was a top relief pitching prospect out of St. John's University. His major league performance just hasn't been very good yet. Hansen throws hard, dealing a short-armed fastball that sits in the mid-90s with some natural cut. Hansen breaks off upper-80s slidepieces as his second pitch. I have not seen a changeup of any kind. 8/19/08 CSJ

*fastball(93-98), slider(84-90)

Denny Bautista, RHP, reliever Bautista throws extremely hard. His fastball sits mid-90s and touches near 100mph. His slider can even touch 90mph due to his high velocity. He has shown a straight changeup and a hard breaking curveball as well. 5/1/08 CSJ

*fastball(90-100), slider(85-91), changeup(88), curve(81-84)

Jason Davis, RHP, reliever Davis is basically a fastball/splitter/slider pitcher. Due to his ineffectiveness, he has tried changeups and curves at different points in his career. It looks like he has gone back to his basics though, and is dealing these three pitches in 2008. His stuff can get some crazy movement at times. 8/19/08 CSJ

*fastball(88-94), splitter(82-87), slider(78-83)

Jeff Karstens, RHP, reliever Karstens has always produced at the minor league level, and is finally getting a solid shot in Pittsburgh. His fastball is average, and looks fairly straight. He'll mix in a standard assortment of changeups, sliders, and curves, while keeping his walk totals down. 8/19/08 CSJ

*fastball(84-91), changeup(76-81), slider(78-82), curve(73-76)



Romulo Sanchez, RHP, reliever Sanchez is a hard thrower, bringing a straight, mid-90s heater to the mound. He'll mix in lots of changeups, a soft pitch that he'll ease his motion to throw. Batters may be able to pick up on this. Romulo also throws a slider that he obviously doesn't have much confidence in. 8/30/08 CSJ

*fastball(92-94), changeup(84-87), slider(82-84)

Paul Maholm, LHP, starter Maholm keeps it real simple. He throws the basic four pitches and tries to stay ahead of the hitters. His fastball gets some classic lefthanded tailing action. Maholm's changeup is fairly hard, sometimes differing only a few MPH from the fastball. Maholm will use his slider inside to RHs, attempting to bury it at their back ankle. His curveball is dropped in against any hitter. 8/30/08 CSJ

*fastball(87-91), changeup(84-86), curve(73-76), slider(81-82)

T.J. Beam, RHP, reliever Beam has a tall, slender pitcher's body. His fastball has decent velocity but is straight as an arrow. He has shown a slider as a secondary pitch and a split-finger offering as a distant third pitch. 8/12/08 CSJ

*fastball(90-93), slider(83-86), splitter(86)

Zach Duke, LHP, starter Duke has a full four pitch repertoire, and uses all of his pitches often. He throws a moving fastball around 90mph that doesn't overpower hitters. Duke has a straight changeup, unafraid to throw it to both RHs and LHs. The curveball is a standard big breaker, while Duke mixes in sweeping sliders. He'll vary his slider anywhere between 77-85mph, using it both as a chase pitch for LHs and a bust pitch for RHs. 7/30/08 CSJ

*fastball(86-91), curve(71-76), slider(77-85), changeup(80-84)

Tom Gorzelanny, LHP, starter Gorzelanny has good fastball velocity for a lefthander, around 90mph. He uses his changeup often, to both RHs and LHs as well. The changeup is hard, usually in the low-80s, and fairly straight. Tom will then mix two different breaking balls, a loopy curve and a tight slider. He'll vary the velocity and tilt on his curveball anywhere in the 70s. Gonzo will rarely use his tight slider. 7/24/08 CSJ

*fastball(87-92), changeup(81-85), curve(71-78), slider(83)

John Grabow, LHP, reliever Grabow throws a good fastball that can reach the low-90s. From the left side, that looks like real smoke coming out of the bullpen. He uses his changeup to both RHs and LHs. The changeup is fairly straight, but he gets deception with his good arm action. He has what looks like a sharp slider, but he still prefers his changeup as his secondary pitch. 5/14/08 CSJ

*fastball(88-91), changeup(80-84), slider(83-86)

Tyler Yates, RHP, closer Yates is a hard thrower with suspect command. He has a mid-90s fastball and a hard slider that can also touch 90mph at times. His stuff looks dominant, but he hasn't been able to harness it in the majors as of yet. He may show a rare changeup to LHs. 5/14/08 CSJ

*fastball(93-96), slider(88-89), changeup

[Rod_Carew29]

Burnett also throws (and I watched/noted):

a changeup @ 84mph (I gave it a '70' on the movement)

and a 12/6 curveball @ 76mph (I gave it a '60' on the movement)

Quote: Originally Posted by tree3five

Here is some pitching info I came across for the Pirates, hope this helps. Sean Burnett, LHP, reliever Burnett has an awkward, jerking delivery usually reserved for righthanded pitchers. He deals a 90mph fastball and a dropping slider. In limited viewings, I have yet to witness an offspeed pitch from Burnett. 8/19/08 CSJ *fastball(89-92), slider(78-81)

[chicubsfan20]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rod_Carew29

I DO have him throwing a 2-seam fastball, but I DON'T have him throwing a splitter. However, m-a-y-b-e his 'change' is actually a splitter. I have him throwing it in the vicinity of 84-85mph. That is surely a splitter speed.

Quote: Originally Posted by theotherguy619

I just finished the Cubs, and I gave him a 2-SFB, a slider, and a splitter.

Maybe its a true change-up and mistaken for a change-up? I've only heard he throws it, I haven't seen any "real" evidence on my part, just what the announcers have said.