Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

[Yrogergj24]

Let's play a fun game I have come up with, where we will debate and get the opinion of the forums. Read the rules before posting

RULES

1. Every 3 days or so (May be longer or shorter depending on the closeness of the vote) I will post the name of a player either currently playing or recently retired.
2. Make a post stating and explaining your views on this player
3. Have fun and debate people who you don't agree with
4. At the end of the poll, I will tally up the votes and put the results below in the spoiler

Current Player: Brian Urlacher

Past Results Yes-No

Spoiler

Steven Jackson: 0-17
Shane Lechler: 7-4
Michael Vick: 0-6
Chad Johnson: 0-16

[z Revis]

Good thread, I like it.

I'll start...

I do not think Steven Jackson is a Hall of Famer. He's a good player and has been a top 10 back for most of his career, but never in any year did I consider him to be THE best RB in the league, and really not even top 3. He hasn't had any outstanding statistical year, no type of record breaking year, etc. Furthermore, I think it hurts his case that the Rams have only made the Playoffs I think one time(in '04 I believe) since he's been with him.

[Yrogergj24]

Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

Good thread, I like it. I'll start... I do not think Steven Jackson is a Hall of Famer. He's a good player and has been a top 10 back for most of his career, but never in any year did I consider him to be THE best RB in the league, and really not even top 3. He hasn't had any outstanding statistical year, no type of record breaking year, etc. Furthermore, I think it hurts his case that the Rams have only made the Playoffs I think one time(in '04 I believe) since he's been with him.

Thanks, I just hope it generates enough interest to be a viable recurring thread.

[LoSoisNiCEx414]

Donald Driver? I say yes

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by LoSoisNiCEx414

Donald Driver? I say yes

I guess Steven Jackson sort of sounds like Donald Driver?

Interested to see how this goes but it definitely won't work if you completely ignore the point.

[Po1soNNN]

Next player you do should be Ray Lewis, but the answer is obvious.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

I do not consider Steven Jackson a HOF. He just has not been a total standout in his career. He is in the Hall of Very Good with guys like McNabb.

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kaiser Wilhelm

I do not consider Steven Jackson a HOF. He just has not been a total standout in his career. He is in the Hall of Very Good with guys like McNabb.

Since I posted I should answer the question...

I think he has HOF talent but it takes a lot for a RB's talent to vault a team to the success needed to make them a HOFer without help. So unfortunately, I don't think he belongs.

I quoted you bc I don't even think he is as close as McNabb and his 4 NFCC appearances and 1 SB appearance.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Quote: Originally Posted by wwharton

Since I posted I should answer the question... I think he has HOF talent but it takes a lot for a RB's talent to vault a team to the success needed to make them a HOFer without help. So unfortunately, I don't think he belongs. I quoted you bc I don't even think he is as close as McNabb and his 4 NFCC appearances and 1 SB appearance.

Are you sure it is not because you just have it out for me today?

Also, to add to Steven Jackson, he just has not been the caliber of runningback that truly carries a team all the way to the playoffs. If the Rams had more playoff appearances it would help him much more.

[mpeterso]

Steven Jackson has been a very good NFL player, but barring a late career explosion, or at least 4-5 more seasons similar to his career average, I don't think he will make it. While he's a 3 time pro bowler, 2 time all-pro and led the league in yards from scrimmage in 2006, he only finished in the top 5 for rushing yards two seasons, and never in the top 10 for TDs. Further, while he's hit the 10,000 yards rushing mark for his career (he currently ranks 26th all time) he is only 121st all time for TDs.

On the other hand, one major positive for Jackson is how consistently good he's been on a mostly awful Rams team. He probably deserves more credit just for basically carrying the Rams for the past 5-6 seasons. However, the irony is the Rams inability to produce around him is going to hurt his chances because his red zone touches have been so limited by their weak offences the past few seasons.