Gregg Williams ran a bounty system in NOLA

[ImTellinTim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dog

Question: Can players sue Gregg Williams if they were injured by the Saints intentionally while he as DC?

They NFLPA warned the Saints coaches players that it is possible, and that if it happened they hired legal counsel. I don't see any player stepping up and filing a suit, though.

Here's an article about it. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...minal-charges/

EDIT: The only warned players, obviously, but I would think the liability could extend to the coaches. It is illegal in any context to directly pay someone to cause harm to another person, after all.

[Chrisksaint]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scott812313

This whole story makes me laugh. I was flamed by all the Saints fans when I mentioned how ridiculous the Saints played against SF in that preseason game and was told it was just a "normal" game. I hope that piece of **** Williams never coaches another game and the cocky bastard Sean Payton loses his appeal.

A whole completely different story bud. There was nothing illegal or even anywhere near drawing a flag, they blitzed in a FOOTBALL game get over it.

[Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Unlikely. It would probably take proven payment for the injury for any kind of legal merit to stick outside of football context and rhetoric, and direct involvement from Williams. Even then, more likely the player would be the one facing legal action and has more to do with payment for the injury rather than these type of instructions. Simply being hurt during a game vs the Saints isn't enough.

Quote: Originally Posted by ImTellinTim

They NFLPA warned the Saints coaches and players that it is possible, and that if it happened they were advised to hire their own legal counsel. I don't see any player stepping up and filing a suit, though.

Yeah I heard on the radio that player-to-player suing would be super unlikely since they are all part of the NFLPA, so I wondered about player-to-coach

[ImTellinTim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dog

Yeah I heard on the radio that player-to-player suing would be super unlikely since they are all part of the NFLPA, so I wondered about player-to-coach

See edit...

[Scott812313]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisksaint

A whole completely different story bud. There was nothing illegal or even anywhere near drawing a flag, they blitzed in a FOOTBALL game get over it.

Yeah, I'm sure Williams told them to all out blitz every play that game, but don't hurt anyone! Face the facts, the Saints have been a dirty team for a few years now and it's about time it gets fully exposed.

[RJTurneR]

This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. There are a few people, not just here but everywhere, saying some of this is just the usual pre-game type speech. If I'm a coach, I would at least sound a little bit more passionate and energetic about it.

Speeches to me are usually the whole "This is our time, we're a team, we got to go out there and win this". Williams sounds nothing like this. His tone is serious, his words are serious, and his telling his players exactly what to do, who to go for, where to hit.

I can't help but feel sorry for that city. The Saints helped re-build it, but all of that now is tarnished because a couple of coaches and maybe a whole defense were out trying to cause serious injuries. I don't care who's fault it is, the way I feel, that whole organisation, or at least the people who knew and/or took part in the scheme, should be completely ashamed with themselves, and deserve the same fate of the people they tried to put out. Not playing or coaching ever again.

It may sound a bit over the top, but I feel very strongly about this and there just no place for it. Hope everyone respects that.

[Chrisksaint]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scott812313

Yeah, I'm sure Williams told them to all out blitz every play that game, but don't hurt anyone! Face the facts, the Saints have been a dirty team for a few years now and it's about time it gets fully exposed.

Dirty in the sense of bounties? Yeah sure that's kinda obvious. Go watch the tape and there's not much there outside of the few hits you expect to see over a season or much difference in the injuries they caused compared to what is average.

I don't know what he told them, but the players didn't try to hurt anyone that game and they blitzed getting ready for the season(Since you know they blitzed about 50% of the time normally in the season)

[LowerWolf]

The "cut off the head and the body will die" is football talk. Telling players to go after an ACL or an ankle crosses the line. I hope he's banned from the league. I'm sure he's blackballed either way.

[kingkilla56]

This tape just buried the case completely. This guy is insane.

[roadman]

And to think the Packers were a whisker away from hiring this cat. whew.