People who belong in the Hall Of Fame

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Nice choice. Anderson deserves enshrinement for his performances in the big games. He could make every throw and was more worthy than losers like Jim Kelly and Warren Moon.

Losers? Is it Jim Kelly's fault that the Bills got trounced in SB 27 & 28 against a superior Cowboys team? At least the Bills had a shot against NYG and to a lesser extent the Redskins.

Warren Moon is also not a loser, yes he lost some huge games in the NFL though the one against Denver you can't completely fault him for (Elway beat the Oilers on that last drive) and he was bound to lose that big comeback game against Buffalo because throughout his career Rich Stadium was a house of nightmares for Moon.

Moon won a number of Grey Cups so that has to count for something.

[Howie75]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Most of those players were drafted. Tillman volunteered (just like I did), and walked away from a multi-million dollar deal to do so (which I probably would not have). That is unique, and warrants recognition.

I'm fairly certain a great number of the WW2 vets volunteered, but I digress....

Absolutely Tillman walked away from riches and desrves all kinds of recognition and respect for his sacrifice. We're really disputing semantics;

Pat Tillman certainly deserves recognition and there may well be some display in the HOF honoring him. If not, there should be.

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Kelly and Moon were great regular season qbs but never did anything of significance when an important game was on the line. Hall of Fame qbs are supposed to give lesser teams a chance against superior teams but Moon and Kelly were bogus players and were unjustly celebrated. The Grey Cups really don't count for much.

Well I don't care much for Moon but to say that Kelly never did anything of significance during big games is a bit of a stretch. A very very long stretch.

So are you saying the man was "along for the ride" when the Bills made it to 4 straight SBs?

[Ewing]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Kelly and Moon were great regular season qbs but never did anything of significance when an important game was on the line. Hall of Fame qbs are supposed to give lesser teams a chance against superior teams but Moon and Kelly were bogus players and were unjustly celebrated. The Grey Cups really don't count for much.

I understand completely. Quarterbacks after all are the only people on the field for the entire game and they're the guys who draft players and call every single play...

Oh wait a minute, they're not.

Giving credit or amounting blame on one player in a team sport for a team accomplishment makes no sense.

[nightcreeper]

sean taylor maybe?

[shotgun styles]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Nice choice. Anderson deserves enshrinement for his performances in the big games. He could make every throw and was more worthy than losers like Jim Kelly and Warren Moon.

WTF are you talking about? Ken Anderson NEVER won the big game.

He's a LOSER TOO.

[shnuskis]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

WTF are you talking about? Ken Anderson NEVER won the big game. He's a LOSER TOO.

I must be the only fan who would concider an NFC or AFC championship game a big game. LOL.

[DookieMowf]

Quote: Originally Posted by nightcreeper

sean taylor maybe?

Why?

And I agree with others, Tillman should not be in.

[Freelance]

I agree with Rickey Jackson and Bo Jackson. Jackson was a great player that we didn't see on TV much, and Bo transcended the game during his short time, much like Gayle Sayers.

I would put Randall Cunningham in, too.

No for Tillman. The reasons given are ridiculous. It's about football, and he was just a guy as a football player. Acknowledge him in some way, but do not induct him.

[CW McGraw]

Quote: Originally Posted by AlexBrady

Nice choice. Anderson deserves enshrinement for his performances in the big games. He could make every throw and was more worthy than losers like Jim Kelly and Warren Moon.

What the hell are you talking about? Anderson's only "big game" was beating a finesse passing team in the coldest game ever. Granted he did pretty well in those conditions, but Kelly did just as good in his FOUR AFC Championships. Both never got SB rings.