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Old 04-26-2008, 12:16 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Why do you keep replying when you're obviously wrong? You implied the police dropped charges against Pacman when you said the police dropped everything. Obviously the police would stop investigating Pacman after he acceped the prosecutor's plea agreement. If Pacman does not follow the agreement, the charges against him will be reinstated. I'd accept your apology but this post may have went over your head.
when i said police i was talking about the entire justice system. I wasnt trying to be specific. What your talking about has nothing to do the point I was making.....If you read my post, i was clearly talking about the investigation and EVERYTHING involved in this investigation when i used the broad word everything. I think it was clear what i was talking about.

anyway, the prosecutors and the police detectives communicate on charges and then plea deals in investigations such as these. They work TOGETHER. Depending on the level of criminal responsibilities by individuals in these investigations...the people with the lowest level of responsibility are dropped from being a target and are given plea deals.

Someone found to be highly responsible in something such as this would not be given the opportunity to plead down to a misdemeanor, (not if the shooter is found by the police to be a part of that person's crew, like you stated, and was asked to shoot someone by that person, like you stated)...They conducted an extensive investigation obviously and they dropped Jones from being a target in the investigation so they could use Jones to find the responsible party.

fyi, if you want to get technical...when the prosecutors determine charges and then plea deals (again, after communicating with the police detectives). It is the JUDGE that actually accepts plea deals, not the prosecutors. The prosecutors determine it, but only after communicating with, and working with the police detectives.

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Old 04-26-2008, 01:16 AM   #72 (permalink)
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when i said police i was talking about the entire justice system. I wasnt trying to be specific. What your talking about has nothing to do the point I was making.....If you read my post, i was clearly talking about the investigation and EVERYTHING involved in this investigation when i used the term everything. I think it was clear what i was talking about.

anyway, the prosecutors and the police detectives communicate on charges and then plea deals in investigations such as these. They work TOGETHER. Depending on the level of criminal responsibilities by individuals in these investigations...the people with the lowest level of responsibility are dropped from being a target and are given plea deals.

Someone found to be highly responsible in something such as this would not be given the opportunity to plead down to a misdemeanor, (not if the shooter is found by the police to be a part of that person's crew, like you stated, and was asked to shoot someone by that person, like you stated)...They conducted an extensive investigation obviously and they dropped Jones from being a target in the investigation so they could use Jones to find the responsible party.

fyi, if you want to get technical...when the prosecutors determine charges and then plea deals (again, after communicating with the police detectives). It is the JUDGE that actually accepts plea deals, not the prosecutors. The prosecutors determine it, but only after communicating with, and working with the police detectives.
The prosecutor, not a police chief, has the authority to offer defendant a plea deal. Don't know where you get the idea that a police chief has any say in plea deals.

While you techincally are right about judges accepting plea deals, they almost always accept a plea deal when there is an agreement. They make sure the defendant realizes what he is giving up, but they very rarely reject a plea deal because it would waste judicial resources.

As for Pacman, it's pointless to keep going back and forth about his culpability. You don't like him anyways so there's no reason for me to continue to explain that Pacman did something more serious than you are claiming. FYI, defendants are often giving plea deals which have them plead to a much lesser charge in return for testimony against the other defendants.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3368249

Dallas signs Jones to a 4 year deal.
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