Kurt Warner, Hall of Fame?

swill43507 · 10-01-2007, 01:58 PM

What do yall think?

ExtremeGamer · 10-01-2007, 02:02 PM

TCrouch · 10-01-2007, 02:07 PM

Not even close. His body of work overall won't get many votes (if any). Being replaced as a starter for three separate teams is not Hall-worthy.

I will say, though, that at his peak in St. Louis in 2000, he had the most picture-perfect delivery and mechanics that I'd seen in years. He was like a how-to book for playing QB.

But when it comes to the Hall, the system-product vs sheer-talent conversation will always come up, and Warner will be viewed as a good talent, but not elite, that was in a very good system. Breaking his thumb and falling into oblivion won't help, either.

jmood88 · 10-01-2007, 02:12 PM

Why is this even a topic? He was good for like three years and then fizzled out.

SlimKibbles · 10-01-2007, 02:18 PM

No way.

Jistic · 10-01-2007, 02:26 PM

god no!

SPTO · 10-01-2007, 02:36 PM

Nope, but if the O-line protected him better in St. Louis and he didn't take as many body shots as he did he'd still be a front line starter in the NFL. His body took a helluva beating before he finally left the Rams.

He did have an amazing start to his career tho.

mudtiger · 10-01-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SPTO


	Nope, but if the O-line protected him better in St. Louis and he didn't take as many body shots as he did he'd still be a front line starter in the NFL. His body took a helluva beating before he finally left the Rams. He did have an amazing start to his career tho.

Ding ding ding, correct. Injuries did him in.

jfsolo · 10-01-2007, 02:58 PM

Mike Martz accelerated his break down, by putting him in so many empty backfield situations. If you're going to run five wides, AND have long developing routes that force the QB to hold on to the ball for a long time, well your QB is going to take a beating, especially if he's not a mobile guy.

I miss him on the Rams. Bulger when healthy, can make throws and put up numbers, but I don't believe in him as a leader. Kurt's departure began our return to bottom feeder status.

Seahawk76 · 10-01-2007, 03:08 PM

Warner was spectacular for two or three years but that's not long enough to be a legit HOF candidate. When he was on top of his game though he was as accurate as any QB I've seen since Marino. The key to the Greatest Show on Turf was Warner's ability to hit his receivers right on time in stride allowing them to get a lot of yards after catch.

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TCrouch The return of Chaz...? OVR: 35 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 7,893	Re: Kurt Warner, Hall of Fame? Not even close. His body of work overall won't get many votes (if any). Being replaced as a starter for three separate teams is not Hall-worthy. I will say, though, that at his peak in St. Louis in 2000, he had the most picture-perfect delivery and mechanics that I'd seen in years. He was like a how-to book for playing QB. But when it comes to the Hall, the system-product vs sheer-talent conversation will always come up, and Warner will be viewed as a good talent, but not elite, that was in a very good system. Breaking his thumb and falling into oblivion won't help, either.

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jfsolo DAO-Now Playing OVR: 18 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 4,125	Re: Kurt Warner, Hall of Fame? Mike Martz accelerated his break down, by putting him in so many empty backfield situations. If you're going to run five wides, AND have long developing routes that force the QB to hold on to the ball for a long time, well your QB is going to take a beating, especially if he's not a mobile guy. I miss him on the Rams. Bulger when healthy, can make throws and put up numbers, but I don't believe in him as a leader. Kurt's departure began our return to bottom feeder status. __________________ "There seems to be this weird idea that single-player games can get shorter. They can get more expensive and shorter. I don't understand that approach. It's not our approach." Dan Houser- VP of creativity for Rockstar Games

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Seahawk76 MVP OVR: 11 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1,177	Re: Kurt Warner, Hall of Fame? Warner was spectacular for two or three years but that's not long enough to be a legit HOF candidate. When he was on top of his game though he was as accurate as any QB I've seen since Marino. The key to the Greatest Show on Turf was Warner's ability to hit his receivers right on time in stride allowing them to get a lot of yards after catch.

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