2012 NBA Draft Discussion

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by mchase27

So we agree?

My bad I was quoting you to farther your point not to dispute it. Yes we agree 100%.

[cahn935]

I don't see any potential

[Ramboooo]

Was wondering how u all would rank the top 5 or 10 rookies from 2012 draft in like 2 or 3 yrs... who will have the best careers, be all stars, etc ?

[Ramboooo]

Quote: Originally Posted by mchase27

Rivers and raw physical tools don't really go together for a guard his size he has decent speed nothing extraordinary, If Rivers can ever develop a mid-range jumper, and the ability to catch and shoot he could be a nice player. But not a point guard he's a 2 not a 1 and trying to force him to be one is going to be bad for that team.

I'm thinking Monta Ellis 2.0

[wildcatchild]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ramboooo

Was wondering how u all would rank the top 5 or 10 rookies from 2012 draft in like 2 or 3 yrs... who will have the best careers, be all stars, etc ?

I feel pretty confident that Davis, Beal, MKG, and Lilliard will be solid player/All-Star types. After that, it's anyone's guess.

[Bull_Market]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ramboooo

I'm thinking Monta Ellis 2.0

Rivers is no where near explosive as Monta Ellis, imo.

[Bull_Market]

Quote: Originally Posted by wildcatchild

I feel pretty confident that Davis, Beal, MKG, and Lilliard will be solid player/All-Star types. After that, it's anyone's guess.

MKG has the best motor ive ever seen, not Tyler Hansbrough, im not that good, try hard motor. But a ”im a relentless dog, wont stop motor”.

Beal doesnt shot it well enough for my liking but hes still very young. I think Davis will be between Camby & Duncan when its all done, a real nice player but he will need an outstanding supporting cast. I think so much of Waiters potential is tied to Irving who seems to be pretty snake bit when it comes to injuries, so we will see there.

I think MKG will be the best of the lot.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bull_Market

MKG has the best motor ive ever seen, not Tyler Hansbrough, im not that good, try hard motor. But a ”im a relentless dog, wont stop motor”. Beal doesnt shot it well enough for my liking but hes still very young. I think Davis will be between Camby & Duncan when its all done, a real nice player but he will need an outstanding supporting cast. I think so much of Waiters potential is tied to Irving who seems to be pretty snake bit when it comes to injuries, so we will see there. I think MKG will be the best of the lot.

Need a outstanding supporting cast for what exactly? Winning? I'm not sure which player outside of LeBron that has won a lot minus an outstanding supporting cast.

[Bull_Market]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Need a outstanding supporting cast for what exactly? Winning? I'm not sure which player outside of LeBron that has won a lot minus an outstanding supporting cast.

He cant be supported by average players is what I mean, I dont think he can transcend such a handicap. I dont think he can pull guys up to his level, in other words, I dont see him being the ”man”, but I could be wrong.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bull_Market

He cant be supported by average players is what I mean, I dont think he can transcend such a handicap. I dont think he can pull guys up to his level, in other words, I dont see him being the ”man”, but I could be wrong.

In terms of wins or production was my point. I just thought your comment wasn't specific. Every player needs a good supporting cast to win. Not all players need the supporting cast to put up numbers.

I'm not disagreeing with you by the way. I've taken a lot of criticism being anti-Davis in terms of him ever being transcend or a superstar. Personally I don't see a once in a generation player either.