11/17-11/23 NBA Discussion

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[HHHRVD55]

Jazz/Suns tonight. I wonder who Shaq will try to murder tonight? Ronnie Price?

[Fiasco West]

Rockets....
Tmac hurts his knee
Yao hurts his foot
Artest goes down

Artest goes down...pretty much the last possession the Rockets had and he drives wrecklessly to the rim for a assisst. Come on Artest, the game was won if there was anytime you should have settled for a jumper that was the time.

I don't know if Tmac and Yao will miss any games, it seems to me they were just taken out just because, but Artest...who knows he limped off the court.

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Houston is a cursed city is all that is

They need to fire the trainer because he does nothing at all

[Fiasco West]

Quote: Originally Posted by KDRE_OS

Houston is a cursed city is all that is They need to fire the trainer because he does nothing at all

Well Tmac was just being Tmac. His knee probably stiffed up and he didn't want to risk anything and just went out.

Yao still played on his foot afterwards so it seemed to be another precautionary thing.

Artest walked off on his on power, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out a week or two with a ankle sprain. It didn't look too bad, I just don't think it was smart for him to drive to the lane like that when the game was won, any shot would have done there as long as it was taking time off the clock.

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Tmac is playing hurt and has been from day one not even allowed to finish his rehab from surgery.

Yao looks out of shape and the last couple of games, gassed like he used to be before he broke his foot

Im sure Ron wont be out long but then there is Shane, and Steve Francis.

Its only November, but I still think the team should be blown up

[Fiasco West]

Quote: Originally Posted by KDRE_OS

Tmac is playing hurt and has been from day one not even allowed to finish his rehab from surgery. Yao looks out of shape and the last couple of games, gassed like he used to be before he broke his foot Im sure Ron wont be out long but then there is Shane, and Steve Francis. Its only November, but I still think the team should be blown up

Tmac is always playing hurt, I think it was smart for him to realize he wasn't doing much tonight and just sit out. If Tmac felt he needed to rehab more, they would have let him. There was no urgency to even get him on the court

Yao had a good game. Shane is day-to-day as of right now, he could be back soon or not so soon who knows. If Artest is out for a while though Shane will probably be back much sooner than expected.

It's just too early to blow them up, their offense is improving slowly but surely as Tmac and Yao finally get to play together under Adelman(hopefully they can continue to play together) and their offense looked good today and against the Hornets. Unless the Thunder want Tmac for Durant, I just want to see these 3 guys have their shot. This is their shot all three of them to prove people wrong. So hopefully no season ending injuries so they can get their shot.

[Fiasco West]

Some Quotes from Rox big three...

Yao- "People are thinking," Yao said, "’Yeah, here is another year like the last three years. Just so you know, my ankle is fine," he said. "My goal, is still (to play) 82 games."

Artest- "I just came down funny," Artest said. "I doubt (it would force him to miss a game.) People sprain their ankle all the time. It’s not broken."

Tmac- "My knee gave out on me," McGrady said. "They told me if I was to go back in, and they saw me limping they were going to take me back out. I was like, "Well, that’s what you’re pretty much going to see.’ My knee is feeling right. I hate to do this, but I’m going to get an MRI tomorrow and until, further notice, I’m going to have to shut it down.

"Tonight, I went back to square one, like before even surgery. I’ve always been feeling it, but tonight, before that particular play, I came up and it just gave out on me. I’ve been trying to work my way into playing shape and strengthen my leg. I’ve never been 100 percent. I’ve just been hoping playing on it would put me over the edge and I won’t have any more pain, but it hasn’t worked."

So Yao and Artest may be able to play. I knew Yao's wasn't bad because he played on it a little afterwards then they took him out and he didn't seem too concerned...as for Tracy though...as he said until further notice just shut it down. It's not worth it having a good Tmac one or two games a week.

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He should've taken the recoommended time to heal off. Cant come back 3 months early from your first knee surgery. Ask Gil, or Amare

[ex carrabba fan]

So was that AP story in the offseason really that overblown? LOL

Reading this makes me sad for Mac and his fans:

By JEFF LATZKE, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 56 minutes ago

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP)—Tracy McGrady feels like he’s back to square one with a troublesome left knee that gave out on him again. At least his Houston Rockets seem able to pick up the slack if he’s going to be sidelined.

Luis Scola scored 23 points, Yao Ming added 19 points and 12 rebounds, and Houston made a second-half surge without its injured seven-time All-Star to beat the Oklahoma City Thunder 100-89 on Monday night.

Offseason pickup Ron Artest also had an injury scare, but the Rockets still had enough firepower to hand the tumbling Thunder their eighth straight loss.

“We have depth. We have guys that we trust and guys that really can play. They went out there and we all played together, kept fighting hard and sustained a lead and came away with the victory,” point guard Rafer Alston said.

McGrady left the game in the opening minute of the second half after aggravating his left knee, which was operated on this offseason to have loose bodies removed. He didn’t return.

“Tonight I went back to square one, even before surgery, is how my knee is feeling right now,” McGrady said.

The two-time NBA scoring champion came in averaging only 16.7 points and left after scoring eight points in the first half. Even without him, the Rockets were still able to mount a 14-3 run powered by Scola and Yao to start the second half.

Artest extended the lead to 77-58 when he stepped behind Kevin Durant’s back to knock the ball away and set himself up for a right-handed dunk.

All McGrady could do was watch from the bench, where he draped a towel across his shoulders. He planned to have an MRI on Tuesday.

“I want to play, man. I want to play. Just to get off to this start, for me personally this is a bad start,” McGrady said. “To have to play your way through an injury that I’ve never had before and a surgery that was my first surgery is very frustrating. My game is really based on athleticism, and that’s something that I don’t have right now.”

Yao and Artest both thought they’d be OK after joining McGrady on the bench late in the game. Artest was hurt on a drive to the basket in the final minute, and he ended up clutching his right ankle in a group of photographers on the baseline.

He remained in the training room for a while after the game before limping heavily on his way to his locker.

“People sprain their ankles all the time,” said Artest, who had 17 points and 11 rebounds. “It’s not broke.”

Yao left with 3:29 to play after a hook shot that gave Houston a 94-78 lead.

The injury song sounds all too familiar to Rockets faithful, who’ve watched Yao miss a year’s worth of games over the last three seasons because of various injuries and McGrady get dinged up, too.

“We don’t need all of them hurt. Sometimes teams with three players like that, you may deal with one maybe having an injury because injuries are part of the game,” Alston said. “But to have three of them down? We need these guys to be healthy.”

The Rockets still were able to withstand a 14-3 run by Oklahoma City that closed the deficit to 82-74 on Russell Westbrook’s basket inside with 10:42 to play. Yao started a six-point spurt with a hook shot in the lane, and the lead was back to 16 when he hit another one before leaving.

“We just have to put two halves together. Tonight we played a great first half and not a very good second half,” Green said.

McGrady said before the season that the knee was healing slower than he had hoped, and that it would likely be a month into the season before he was back at full speed. He was still about two weeks shy of that point when it failed him again.

“I’ve never had any relief because I’ve just been trying to work my way into playing shape and strengthen my leg. I’ve never been 100 percent,” McGrady said. “I’ve just been trying to play, hoping that playing on it will take me over the edge and I don’t have any more pain. It hasn’t worked in my favor.”

McGrady said he was told he’d be pulled right back out of the game if he was seen limping, and he didn’t think he’d be able to play without doing that.

“It’s sharp pain,” McGrady said. “It almost just seems like I never had surgery. I’m feeling the same pain.”

Yao was able to find a silver lining to all the injuries from the past few years.

“I have experience in this,” Yao said. “I know how to take care of my body.”