J.J HARDY TRADED

[Sandman42]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Franchise

They had no other choice. What, Phil Hughes? No way the Yankees would've thrown in Cano.

Hughes and Melky would have still been better than anything the Twins got in return.

[Wet Bandit]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sandman42

Hughes and Melky would have still been better than anything the Twins got in return.

Except then Johan would be playing on the Yankees. It does no good to get a slightly better deal if it means loading up one of the teams keeping the Twins from a championship.

[whitesox]

I disaprove of this trade.

[rsox]

This was more of a deal of two teams wanting to get of players. The Brewers were going to go with Escobar at SS next season with or without Hardy on the roster. The Twins had basically already given up on Gomez by august last season when Denard Span started to see more time CF.

The Twins do make out best here in that they need a SS and it was unlikely they were going to keep Orlando Cabrera given the amount of money he will be looking for on the free agent market.

[ImTellinTim]

I like the trade. Carlos Gomez, while young, didn't even seem like he was trying to change his terrible approach at the plate. Seems that the Twins got Hardy at his lowest value as he had a pretty terrible year. Hopefully that was an aberration and he can return to his 07-08 form.

While Gomez has the best range in center in all of baseball, Span is just fine out there.

Twins got the better end of this deal IMO.

[steelcurtain311]

It further reminds you of what a horrible trade the Johan deal was. Gomez was the best player in the deal, and he's mediocrity at best. And you gave up what was the best pitcher in baseball at the time, entering his prime years.

I would think Milwaukee could get more for JJ Hardy than this. It doesn't even seem like they shopped him around much. I get that you want to put Alcides Escobar in there, not questioning that, I'm just questioning why you basically dump a guy who just two seasons ago, showed awesome power from the SS position. You could probably net something a little better than a Carlos Gomez.

[rsox]

The fact that Hardy was traded two days after the World Series ended tells you that the Brewers did not shop him around.

Minnesota backed themselves in to a corner with the Santana trade. By not trading him at the trade deadline in 2007 everyone knew the Twins had to trade him that offseason. Everyone knew the Twins did not want to open the 2008 season with Santana still on the roster and did not even want to go to training camp with him around. Because of that the Twins did not get they best package they could get for Santana, they got the best package that anyone was still willing to offer.

The Blue Jays may face a similar situation with Roy Halladay if they decide that they can't re-sign him (or he doesn't want to) and want to move before the season starts. The same offers the Jays were getting last july are not going to be the same offers they will get when every team knows they have to trade him.

[roadman]

The Brewers did shop around Hardy. They were looking for front line pitching and nothing ever materialized. So, they did the next best thing. They traded a disgruntled former starting SS and picked up a young disgruntled CF.

The Brewers won't be signing Weathers or Cameron and traded Hardy's salary. Now, they can go out and grab some starting pitching which they desperately need.

[rsox]

They were never going to get a frontline starter for J.J. Hardy. Prince Fielder or Ryan Braun maybe, but not Hardy.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by rsox

They were never going to get a frontline starter for J.J. Hardy. Prince Fielder or Ryan Braun maybe, but not Hardy.

I should have made it more clearer. A 4 or 5 SP wouldn't have been out of the picture, but everyone knew Hardy had a bad year and the Brewers had Escobar waiting in the wings.