Can You Make The Show Play Like PYS?

[lhslancers]

I love the gameplay of PYS have every game made for the PS3 except for 5 I have 5 Kanzenban instead. Any settings you can use in The Show that can approximate the hitting and pitching in The Show that can make it play like PYS? I love the cursor hitting and the two button press is great for pitching IMO.

[Manny_Shevitz]

Quote: Originally Posted by lhslancers

I love the gameplay of PYS have every game made for the PS3 except for 5 I have 5 Kanzenban instead. Any settings you can use in The Show that can approximate the hitting and pitching in The Show that can make it play like PYS? I love the cursor hitting and the two button press is great for pitching IMO.

Unfortunately, no. That's the short answer.

Here's the long one.

Arguably, The Show 12 is the closest you can get to PYS's gameplay, since they added truer ball physics and the Pulse Pitching interface option for this year's version. But the developers of The Show have a very different gameplay design philosophy that continues to be at odds with the level of control those of us who play PYS have come to expect. For example, while Pulse Pitching on the surface seems somewhat similar to the pitching interface in PYS, it actually has very little in common with it. In The Show, you can aim your pitching cursor exactly where you want the pitch to go, and time your release perfectly, with the cursor at its smallest possible point, and still throw a wild pitch, or at least a pitch that goes nowhere near where you intended it to go. This is because in The Show, stats are King, and can trump anything you do with the controller. Also, all of your decisions in a pitch are made before your pitcher begins moving. You select your pitch, select your location, then time your release, and then you sit back and watch the results. In PYS, as you know, you select your pitch, hit X to start the pitchers windup, then you aim your cursor and hit X again when you want your pitcher to release the ball. This may not seem like a big difference when I describe it, but in practice the differences are immense.

When batting, the differences between the two games are even more pronounced. Again, with the smaller "cursor" in The Show 12 -- which I put in quotes to emphasize that while it may seem like a batting cursor, it's really not -- the two games may seem to have similar batting mechanics, but this is again not the case. The PCI, as it is called in The Show, is merely a representation of the general area where your batter is expecting the pitch to come. So when you aim it at a specific part of the plate, you aren't actually aiming exactly where your batter is going to swing his bat, you are aiming where you think he should swing his bat. But as soon as you hit that swing button, the stats and player attributes under the hood once again take over, and determine the results. Where you aimed the PCI and the timing of your swing are certainly taken into consideration, but you will often see results that in no way reflect what you did with your controller.

I'm not trying to bash The Show. A lot of people love the way it plays. But don't expect it to play anything like PYS. In spite of what some people say, the two games play very differently.

[lhslancers]

thanks for the detailed answer Manny. So I am doomed to play PYS huh?

[payton425]

Pys is the most complete baseball u can buy simply put. There is absolutely zero talk of a comback code in pys because of the true pitching and batting mechanics...great game.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by payton425

Pys is the most complete baseball u can buy simply put. There is absolutely zero talk of a comback code in pys because of the true pitching and batting mechanics...great game.

Oh...I thought it was just because it was only 7 of you playing it.


M.K.
Knight165

[19Redwings]

Missed that last one knight, anyways, I checked this game out not to long ago was able to get ahold of the 2011 version, wow. I found that spiritstranslation site through OS here and that really convinced me to give this game a try. This game is on another universe gameplay wise. There are two things that PYS does better than any baseball game past or present that is Batter/Pitcher interface and getting individual players to play like their real life counterparts and really differentiates players from each other. I can see why the us baseball game players are really growing around here its an impressive game.

[Manny_Shevitz]

I guess that makes 8 of us now, Knight.

[19Redwings]

Only thing tho is the language can be a big barrier, granted spiritstranslation is a huge resource but I still feel that I cant get a complete experience from all the different game modes... still the gameplay from a random exhibition game is just brilliant. The addition of skills not just numbered attributes is huge I wish The Show would implement it, it just seems to bring individual players to life...

[Manny_Shevitz]

Quote: Originally Posted by 19Redwings

Only thing tho is the language can be a big barrier, granted spiritstranslation is a huge resource but I still feel that I cant get a complete experience from all the different game modes... still the gameplay from a random exhibition game is just brilliant. The addition of skills not just numbered attributes is huge I wish The Show would implement it, it just seems to bring individual players to life...

That definitely can be a barrier, and probably explains why more people don't get into this series, in spite of how well it plays. However, once you've familiarized yourself with it, and put a little bit of time into looking over spiritstranslation, it's not too difficult to enjoy most of the game modes. I can't read a single word of Japanese, and I have no problem getting through Pennant mode, which is PYS's version of Franchise. The off-season takes a bit of patience, but it's not so bad. I'd say the only mode that you really can't enjoy without knowing at least some Japanese would be the Spirits (Career) mode. But since I don't have much interest in that anyway, I don't mind so much.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by Manny_Shevitz

I guess that makes 8 of us now, Knight.

Haha....

You can almost field a team now!

M.K.
Knight165