NCAA Football 13 Recruiting Database (TSO)

[NDAlum]

Small step in the right direction

[brza37]

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers.

And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto.

But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change.

I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers.

If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE.

EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

[jfsolo]

This may be only an aesthetic change for this year, but for me, a tweak like this adds to my level of immersion much more than any improved aspects of presentation.

Many may consider this a small thing, but for members of the community to get them to take the first step to finally fixing something that has been sub par forever, is a job well done. Good work guys.

[vanderbiltfan87]

Quote: Originally Posted by brza37

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers. And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto. But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change. I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers. If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE. EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

It's a point that I feel could not be reiterated enough. That was my first post on here in probably a year if that tells you anything.

[GCSM]

Quote: Originally Posted by brza37

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers. And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto. But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change. I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers. If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE. EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

We decided it would be better to represent senior weights since they don't gain weight realistically.

[BenGerman]

Just another reason a global editor would have won over so many hearts here at OS.

[TDAWG89]

It's good that it got changed, but geez were they just going to let this go another year? It kinda says something about their knowledge of football too

[jmik58]

The bigger question is whether or not this is just a cosmetic issue. In other words, does it really matter on the field for gameplay?

Does weight matter in EA's football games? I've yet to see that it does.

[DorianDonP]

A 6'4 175 pound receiver in high school is not unrealistic. There are several guys in the current rivals 100 that are almost that size.

The big issue is that the guys don't gain weight (only a few pounds in some instances) and their size really doesn't relate to their attributes.

There should be some kind of weight training in the off-season where you can bulk up some guys. It would actually be kind of fun to go after a 6'4 200 pound defensive end, and weight train him for five years, and after his redshirt senior season have him be a 6'4 240 pound beast pass rusher.

[WatShot]

Quote: Originally Posted by DorianDonP

A 6'4 175 pound receiver in high school is not unrealistic. There are several guys in the current rivals 100 that are almost that size. The big issue is that the guys don't gain weight (only a few pounds in some instances) and their size really doesn't relate to their attributes. There should be some kind of weight training in the off-season where you can bulk up some guys. It would actually be kind of fun to go after a 6'4 200 pound defensive end, and weight train him for five years, and after his redshirt senior season have him be a 6'4 240 pound beast pass rusher.

In all honesty how hard is it to go into edit players and add weight and set the attributes that you see need be. I know it's the fact that it doesn't do it without you having to go in and do it yourself, but there are workarounds that can be done