Dynamic Player Development

[hurricanefootball4]

It would probably be easiest if budgets were directly related to prestige (Star Rating) with performance bonuses & incentives.

So Texas, Alabama, Ohio State would all have big budgets (like real life) and schools from the Sun Belt would have smaller budgets. All teams would be eligible for performance bonuses (meeting contract goals) or things like "win all your home games" - things that realistically would increase revenue for the school.

Schools could "work up the ranks" or stay competitive by hiring and recruiting for a specific play style. Say you want to throw the ball all over the field and try to outscore opponents - you would hire coaches that weren't great all-around but were good and QB's and WR's and would allow you to cater towards your play style.

It wouldn't be dissimilar from the recruiting "budget" system from NCAA 06 only instead of choosing recruiting, discipline, etc you're choosing coaches that have different traits that would be focused more towards specific things in your system.

[hurricanefootball4]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbails35

Even though I don't post on here very often, I must say this is one of the best ideas I've seen. One question though, if say a 5 star WR like the one you described went to a bad system but instead of a D work ethic say had a A work ethic would you say that he would go from an 80 to say an 88 by the end of his career? I think even if a player wasn't in the right system his work ethic should still allow him to become a better player and become one of those players that could be a bit of a surprise in the NFL.

Yes, I agree that guys with good work ethic would still have the ability to be great players, but I think the speed of their progression might not be as fast as a result of the coaches and program they play for.

It would be like real life. You don't normally see guys from poor programs being early entry guys, but they still might be high draft picks by their senior year. So let's take that player you picked who is a 5 star guy, good tools and has a great work ethic.

Scenario A - he chooses to go to Alabama with a great WR coach

Starts as an 80, progresses to a 92 by the end of his junior year and leaves early for the NFL draft.

Scenario B - he chooses to go to Arkansas State

Starts as an 80, progresses slower (to an 88 by his Jr. year) and to a 92-93 by the end of his senior year.

So, with his work ethic, potential, and ability he will still end up being a good football player - but his choice of program will change how rapidly he progresses.

Thoughts?

[hurricanefootball4]

Quote: Originally Posted by blkrptnt819

Ok so one more is how can we incorporate playing time into progression.

Thoughts on this increasing awareness? So every 1 game they play their awareness goes up 0.25 awareness points. So every 4 games their awareness rating would go up a full point.

So a guy who started 12 games a year for 4 years would have his awareness rating go up +12 over the course of his career to reflect game experience?

[blkrptnt819]

Quote: Originally Posted by hurricanefootball4

Thoughts on this increasing awareness? So every 1 game they play their awareness goes up 0.25 awareness points. So every 4 games their awareness rating would go up a full point. So a guy who started 12 games a year for 4 years would have his awareness rating go up +12 over the course of his career to reflect game experience?

.50 may make a little more sense +24 seems more reasonable.

[theharbinater]

Quote: Originally Posted by hurricanefootball4

Thoughts on this increasing awareness? So every 1 game they play their awareness goes up 0.25 awareness points. So every 4 games their awareness rating would go up a full point. So a guy who started 12 games a year for 4 years would have his awareness rating go up +12 over the course of his career to reflect game experience?

would be easy to cheese that. just put every player in for 1 play in every game.

it needs to be a small #, but lets say a max of 1 point of awr gained per game played, with that 1 point being multiplied by # of snaps played/total # of snaps in game.

and have it be both off and def plays. that way, if you play a cb or wr both ways some, they gain those points as well.

for example:

a frosh mlb plays 10 plays while giving the starter a breather. there were 115 plays in that game, so he gained .09 (1*10/115).

next game the starter gets hurt early, and he plays most d snaps, say 50 (of 60). total of 120 plays. so he gained .42 awr. that game.

an example of a wr/cb would be:
say you had a jr cb with great speed and liked to use him on off for a few plays a game, he should get an awr boost for that also. say he plays most d snaps (55) and 6 off snaps for a total of 61 snaps. 120 totals snaps again. he gained .51 awr (.46 for his def play and .05 for off).

would be easy, as far as calculation, to add in sp teams also. but ncaa already compiles the off and def and total plays per game. shouldn't be much to add sp teams to that total, but just used what they had already available.

that would be good for returners and k/p, as well as getting some of your frosh awr up before they become contributors/starters.

[blkrptnt819]

Quote: Originally Posted by theharbinater

would be easy to cheese that. just put every player in for 1 play in every game. it needs to be a small #, but lets say a max of 1 point of awr gained per game played, with that 1 point being multiplied by # of snaps played/total # of snaps in game. and have it be both off and def plays. that way, if you play a cb or wr both ways some, they gain those points as well. for example: a frosh mlb plays 10 plays while giving the starter a breather. there were 115 plays in that game, so he gained .09 (1*10/115). next game the starter gets hurt early, and he plays most d snaps, say 50 (of 60). total of 120 plays. so he gained .42 awr. that game. an example of a wr/cb would be: say you had a jr cb with great speed and liked to use him on off for a few plays a game, he should get an awr boost for that also. say he plays most d snaps (55) and 6 off snaps for a total of 61 snaps. 120 totals snaps again. he gained .51 awr (.46 for his def play and .05 for off). would be easy, as far as calculation, to add in sp teams also. but ncaa already compiles the off and def and total plays per game. shouldn't be much to add sp teams to that total, but just used what they had already available. that would be good for returners and k/p, as well as getting some of your frosh awr up before they become contributors/starters.

I like that. I never thought of the ppl that would try to take advantage of the system.

[blkrptnt819]

Also with this injuries should have temporary and permanent effects on development. E.g.

4* DE with A phyiscal, skill, and development issues

He tears his ACL, never heals correctly and lowers his physical development to a C.

Shouldn't be the norm but should happen.

Also we should get something that lets us know about work ethic in a recruits notes or files. Maybe some of his achievements, if its an athlete what positions they played in HS, a quote from the coach, his schools finish in last 2 state tourneys, any other sport played. This an be used to determine if they are a winner (intangibles) what potential positions they could play. For athlete, skill potential can be based on what position they are asked to play.

[huntswithweim]

EA can’t get pass trajectory right and you expect them to do something like this. They wouldn’t even let you hire your OC and DC as a Head Coach last year. I like your idea, but you might as well ask for players that shoot rockets out their butts.fficeffice" />>>

[StayPlation82]

would be great for the OP to take this idea and expand on it to see how these players could be imported into madden to complete the cycle.

[imraged]

I've brought up, like, this exact same idea several times over the past couple of years. Good to see someone else thinks the same way I do. This would really put dynasty mode over the top if implemented correctly.