OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mistake?

[gamecockfan40]

bILLDO'!!!!!!!!! you hit the nail on the head, Friend..exclusive license/monopoly...Is why we don't have good football games today...And EA can't say it's not, cause we all know that if 2K still made football games. We the gamers would have Two'!!!!! not ONE...But Two Awesome NFL games to pick from...But no EA paints the box pretty and dump this junk on us....

[Herky]

Fantastic write-up and I agree with 100% of what is written here.

I'll be waiting at least a month in the future before I purchase NCAA so I can find out exactly what the patches have done.

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Herky

Fantastic write-up and I agree with 100% of what is written here. I'll be waiting at least a month in the future before I purchase NCAA so I can find out exactly what the patches have done.

You can't just wait a month, better wait until December after all the patches have dropped. There hasn't ever been an EA patch that I can recall that didn't break something that was working before.

I point everyone to Fight Night Champion. The game was decent at launch with some freezing glitches that needed to be addressed. Fast forward 3 patches later. TKO's and damage were removed from the game, the boxers became very stiff and it became impossible to lose to the AI because the stamina was destroyed and the AI became a zombie by the 4th round. I repeat, the game played 100 times better at launch and people are begging for them just to give us the launch day game back.

Oh, and the freezing issue in Legacy that I mentioned. Never addressed.

I think some members of the FNC team now work on the NCAA franchise.

[DJ]

I think this will definitely have long-term ramifications for people like us that play mostly sports games and visits sites dedicated to sports gaming. I'm not sure how that translates to overall sales numbers; I bet if you asked most casual players of NCAA, they'd have no clue about the tendency bug.

I've fought with this game tooth-and-nail to get it playable and I think I've done an OK job at doing so. That being said, there's no way I'm buying this game next year until all the patches have been released. NCAA 12 made me jump through way too many hoops and I just don't have the time or patience to deal with this again next year.

[Gotmadskillzson]

All EA Game Changers have lost credibility in my eyes. They went down there how many times for NCAA 12 ? Like around 8 or 10 times ? I know it was a lot and the last time was in June. But yet this is the buggiest game in the series. Kind of makes one wonder what the hell they were doing down there all the times they were down there.

Not only did they go down there that many times, but a good number of them have direct access email and phone wise with the producers and other lead programmers. So to me it is like how can you have direct access and don't speak up ? That whole program needs to be scrapped because out of the 2 or 3 years that program been in place, they haven't changed a damn thing or improved anything either. I am still seeing the same problems that was in 08, 09, 10 still in NCAA 12. So to me, they serve no purpose other then to hype the game.

EA needs to go back to the way they use to be before patches. IMO they are so dependent and reliant on patches, they putting out half baked games. Idea be good, but the execution be terrible. I honestly don't believe they even play their own game against the CPU. I think they only play head to head against other humans and that is the problem.

You can just play ONE game against the CPU and come away with a notebook full of problems with the CPU AI. So how in the world did the EA Game Changers, QA department, producers and everybody else that was involved in the game NOT see that many obvious issues with the game ?

All these sports games developers are taking consumers for granted and it is SAD. Man if they ever put Madden and NCAA back on the PC, we wouldn't have these problems because gamers themselves would have fixed the problems with mods.

Honestly this has been a very disappointing summer for me. College football is my favorite sport. But it has been full of misinformation and question dodging. It is like they just there to collect a pay check and don't care or have pride in what they put out in the market.

[KingV2k3]

I'm not very tech savvy at all, so I rely on the guys around here to let us know what are fixable issues and EXACTLY how to go about it...

Therefore it seems to me that all the rationalizations and excuses offered up by the developers are pretty weak, at best...

'Skillz mentioned "pride" in his post re: workmanship, etc...

What ever happened to "fear of getting fired"?

I've never had this much latitude to fail in my professional endeavors...

[psychicDB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson

You can just play ONE game against the CPU and come away with a notebook full of problems with the CPU AI. So how in the world did the EA Game Changers, QA department, producers and everybody else that was involved in the game NOT see that many obvious issues with the game ?

Agreed. If you gave an advance copy of NCAA to OS you would have a dictionary-sized list of everything wrong with it within a few days.

[canes21]

Well, I'll just put my .02 out there. After the mess that is NCAA 12, I did not buy Madden 12 this year and will not be purchasing NCAA 13 or Madden 13 next year unless it is very late into the year or early 2013 when they are dirt cheap.

[andygilbert]

I have bought every NCAA football game dating back to Bill Walsh College Football and this is the first time I have seriously considered boycotting EA with any game. Case in point I sent a message to customer service at EA in which it tells you that they will reply within 24hrs. or less that was October 14th. I got a response today November 3rd. I mentioned this to show everyone how Jonny on the spot they are over there. I have worked in sales and customer service for more that 10yrs. and if this were the way I handled things when one of my customers have a concern and I let it linger this long they would purchase from another company or would not purchase a product of want not of need.

[andygilbert]

Quote: Originally Posted by andygilbert

I have bought every NCAA football game dating back to Bill Walsh College Football and this is the first time I have seriously considered boycotting EA with any game. Case in point I sent a message to customer service at EA in which it tells you that they will reply within 24hrs. or less that was October 14th. I got a response today November 3rd. I mentioned this to show everyone how Jonny on the spot they are over there. I have worked in sales and customer service for more that 10yrs. and if this were the way I handled things when one of my customers have a concern and I let it linger this long they would purchase from another company or would not purchase a product of want not of need.

Sorry left that kind of hanging but I guess that lets you know where I stand in my future purchases of ea games