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Old 06-08-2011, 12:32 AM   #1
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Bowl tie-ins (for conference realignment)

Hello... I don't know if this has been confirmed, or just speculated on, but we will only be able to modify the BCS Bowl tie-ins in NCAA12, correct? And we won't be able to modify any other matchups, from the Cotton Bowl to the Beef O'Brady Bowl?

From my limited research I am *assuming* that this is the case, but I'm curious if anyone can confirm that we, in fact, can not modify any other non-BCS bowls.

And if we can not, here is a list of the projected # of bowl bids by conference that you may want to keep in mind when coming up with your new conference schemes. This is based on the 2011-2012 bowl schedule from cbssports.com

Conference, [#, including automatic BCS bid]

Southeastern [8]
Atlantic Coast [8]
Big Ten [8]
Big 12 [7]
Pacific 10 [6]
Big East [6]
Conference USA [6]
Mountain West [5]
Western Athletic [4]
Mid American [3]
Sun Belt [2]
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Old 06-08-2011, 01:28 AM   #2
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BCS only. Hopefully they fix that for next year's game.
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You have to be careful with your numbering because you left out a lot of split and contingency bids. Example, the Sun Belt actually has 2 + 3, and more often than not, they pick up some of those contingency bids. Same with the MAC. They sent 4 last year, using a contingency bid. Sun Belt sent 3. C-USA is really 5 + 2. The SEC is really 8/9 and the Big East is 6/7 as they share a Liberty Bowl bid... which won't happen in real life this year because no way they send 7 out of their 8 teams, but in the game, a larger Big East might use them.

But what I'm hoping is that, especially with my classic setups, is that there are NO contingency bids, the smaller conferences will open up at larges because there is no way a 10-team SEC uses 9 bids, a 7-8 team MVC (in C-USA) uses 5+2 bids, etc... And then when I have a junk conference of only a few non-1A teams, those FCS games do not count towards bowls. I'm willing to bet that is false, though, because they are counted as conference filler games. I wish we could remove a conference from automatic bowl bids. That would be a nice feature. May not be able to edit each, but it would be nice to just turn off a conference that shouldn't have any bowl bids.
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BCS only. Hopefully they fix that for next year's game.
Not doubting you but link please?
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Not doubting you but link please?
It's been shown many many times. We can only edit BCS bowls.
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:43 PM   #6
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It's been shown many many times. We can only edit BCS bowls.
I've only seen screenshots of editing BCS tie-ins so I'm inclined to agree that the others are not editable. However, I've never seen anything from EA or any reviewers explicitly saying that. Yet, several people keep claiming that it's been confirmed...I'd just like to know where they are getting that information.

In fact, this article seems to imply that other bowls ARE editable (end of the paragraph just above the second picture). Granted, it's a few weeks old but that's why I'm wondering where it has been confirmed that ONLY BCS bowls can be edited.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1169273p1.html
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I've only seen screenshots of editing BCS tie-ins so I'm inclined to agree that the others are not editable. However, I've never seen anything from EA or any reviewers explicitly saying that. Yet, several people keep claiming that it's been confirmed...I'd just like to know where they are getting that information.

In fact, this article seems to imply that other bowls ARE editable (end of the paragraph just above the second picture). Granted, it's a few weeks old but that's why I'm wondering where it has been confirmed that ONLY BCS bowls can be edited.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1169273p1.html
Wow. That is interesting. I really hope this is legit and you can actually do that.
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I've only seen screenshots of editing BCS tie-ins so I'm inclined to agree that the others are not editable. However, I've never seen anything from EA or any reviewers explicitly saying that. Yet, several people keep claiming that it's been confirmed...I'd just like to know where they are getting that information.

In fact, this article seems to imply that other bowls ARE editable (end of the paragraph just above the second picture). Granted, it's a few weeks old but that's why I'm wondering where it has been confirmed that ONLY BCS bowls can be edited.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1169273p1.html
All they said is switch who goes to which bowl. They happened to leave out the "BCS" bowl which is completely true. The video that talked about the dynasty changes only mentioned BCS bowl changes; there is no reason to not mention changing all bowls unless you couldn't in the first place. It would be nice if we could change all bowl line-ups, but not this year. Most users would probably create a mess out of it.
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You have to be careful with your numbering because you left out a lot of split and contingency bids. Example, the Sun Belt actually has 2 + 3, and more often than not, they pick up some of those contingency bids. Same with the MAC. They sent 4 last year, using a contingency bid. Sun Belt sent 3. C-USA is really 5 + 2. The SEC is really 8/9 and the Big East is 6/7 as they share a Liberty Bowl bid... which won't happen in real life this year because no way they send 7 out of their 8 teams, but in the game, a larger Big East might use them.
FWIW, the Big East's contingency plan with the Liberty Bowl is more dependent on what happens with the SEC. If the SEC doesn't have enough bowl teams to fill the BBVA Compass Bowl, then the Big East team that would normally go to the Compass Bowl goes to the Liberty Bowl to play an SEC team there and Conference USA can send their champ to one of their other bowls, and a Conference USA team would also go to the BBVA Compass Bowl. If the SEC doesnt have enough teams for Liberty or BBVA, then the Big East team plays CUSA champ in the Liberty, and Compass has to go to contingency picks.

That said, NCAA has never done contingency picks well. Notre Dame has always had an affiliation with certain Big East affiliated bowls, notably the Gator in the past, and I remember one version of NCAA where Notre Dame went to the Gator Bowl 5 straight years in a dynasty.
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FWIW, the Big East's contingency plan with the Liberty Bowl is more dependent on what happens with the SEC. If the SEC doesn't have enough bowl teams to fill the BBVA Compass Bowl, then the Big East team that would normally go to the Compass Bowl goes to the Liberty Bowl to play an SEC team there and Conference USA can send their champ to one of their other bowls, and a Conference USA team would also go to the BBVA Compass Bowl. If the SEC doesnt have enough teams for Liberty or BBVA, then the Big East team plays CUSA champ in the Liberty, and Compass has to go to contingency picks.

That said, NCAA has never done contingency picks well. Notre Dame has always had an affiliation with certain Big East affiliated bowls, notably the Gator in the past, and I remember one version of NCAA where Notre Dame went to the Gator Bowl 5 straight years in a dynasty.
The C-USA champion is locked into the Liberty Bowl unless it makes the BCS. It's C-USA #1 vs. SEC OR Big East. You won't see Big East vs. SEC. Not sure where you got your info that says if the SEC is short, C-USA gets bumped. http://conferenceusa.cstv.com/sports...-partners.html
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